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  1. Ok. Next question - who hires him? I thought the GM would hire him, but if he's Danny's boss, Danny didn't hire him. Dave Scott left, so who makes that hire. Again, I like Keith Jones, but this seems very odd. One day they'll do something like this, it will work, and they'll be the gold standard of the league.
  2. What does president of hockey ops do? Does he get involved with scouting, drafting, and development? Who is his boss and who is he the boss of. I like Jonesy and I think he's very smart. I just don't know what he will add.
  3. You would think its a rarity, but it's closer to a miracle. I couldn't believe it when I looked it up. 18 out of the last 20 cup winners had a 1st or 2nd pick. Some had both. Some had 1 and 3. It's hard to see a bright future when picking 5 and 7. Maybe they can be the team that changes the trend, but it's not too promising.
  4. I see Kadri, Nazim playing with Mackinnon (1), Gabe Landekog (2), and Cal Makar (4). So I did the research and found that Stl in 2019 only had Schenn who was a number 5 pick and he was on his 3rd team. They were also a lightning in a bottle team. Tampa had Stamkos (1) and Headman (2). Washington had Ovie (1). Pitt had Crosby (1) and Malkin (2) and other higher than 5 picks. Chicago had Kane (1) and Toews (3). LA had Doughty (2). Boston had Seguin (2). Detroit in 08 didn't have any top 5s. Anaheim had Neidemeir (3) and Perry (2). Carolina had Staal (2). Tampa had VLC (1). Those are the last 20 cup winners. Only 2 teams had players that were picked higher than 2nd.
  5. I think the oilers are getting closer. The Sabres were never able to pick the right guys...sort of like the flyers. I told my brother about 3/4 through the season that the Bruins will not make the finals. I knew this because they don't have the right formula. I was second guessing myself after 130 points, but it played out even better than I thought. If you could trade the 2023 flyers for any 2023 NHL team, would you choose the bruins or the Blackhawks. I would choose the Hawks. I believe the excitement of a generational talent plus building a team from the ground up is more exciting than having Bergeron and Marchand and Hall. I like Pasta but I don't think they can build around him like teams build around McDavid or Matthews or Crosby or Ovie or Kane.
  6. I love Laughton, but you're proving my point. He's a fine player for where he was picked. So is TK and Provorov and Couturier. They don't win cups though.
  7. I'm not looking for a quick turnaround. I actually don't even think Chicago will have a quick turnaround. This is what I see as the best scenario. It looks like they hit on the #5 pick. Let's say they hit on the #7 pick. They have a few young stars on the team already. So logic tells us they'll be slightly better next year. So let's say they hit on the 12th pick next draft. The year after that, they're making the playoffs. Their ceiling is winning one or two rounds. At that point, the teams with the first second or third picks will pass them. You CANT win a cup without a top 3 player. I'm too lazy to look it up, so I hope someone can tell me the last time a team won a cup without a top 3 pick.
  8. I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but does anyone believe the flyers will compete for a cup again if 7th is the highest they'll draft for a while? Why should we believe it? What was the last team to win a cup with a 5th pick being their highest pick? I'm guessing it's been at least 20 years. It just doesn't happen. I can't wait to hear JJ hype this kid up, only to have him top out as Scott Laughton.
  9. I just saw something about Danny saying they flyers can't play the brand of hockey they're known for anymore, which is rough and tough, "Broad street Bullies" hockey. See this is what I don't agree with. I want a team that can kick your a$$ and skate circles around you. All I ever hear anymore is about how the flyers need to lose the mentality to beat people up. Nobody seems to realize they lost that mentality a while ago...and I believe it has made them worse. Just because they sign Risto doesn't mean their tough. That guy is soft. Just because they sign Hayes doesn't mean their big. That guy is lazy and doesn't intimidate anyone. Nick D is just a show fighter...he doesn't put fear in anyone. The Flyers problem is just straight up lack of talent. You can get talented guys that are tough in different ways. I want to keep the reputation of being nasty, just add more talent to go with it.
  10. There are a few reason the current setup bothers me. 1. I'm old. I get up at 4am, so when 7pm rolls around, I get sleepy. 8pm rolls around, I go up and get ready for bed and to watch TV. 9:15pm, lights out. There's no way I'm watching a second of a 10pm game. When the Flyers played Calgary the other week, the game was a Saturday at 10pm EST. Both teams played 2 or 3 nights prior, and nothing was scheduled at the arena until the game. Why couldn't they play earlier? 2. A few years ago, I think the eagles started the season on a Monday night against the cowboys or another division rival. Everyone was amped for the season. I was excited for the flyers season, but they started against a team that had absolutely no rivalry with the flyers. Nobody cared. That just seems like bad planning. 3. I hate the Christmas season west coast trip also. If I have some days off and want to have a few beers and watch the game, I can't because they're out west for a week or two starting at 10pm against teams I don't care about. That's bad marketing of the sport.
  11. I can agree with that. Although Kane was within the rules for that goal, it's sort of a cheat because of course he can move left to right faster than the goalie. I'm fine with improving the shootout but keeping it. And maybe a shootout win doesn't get you an extra point, but maybe it serves as some sort of tiebreaker or playoff position at the end of the season.
  12. I don't think I have any game play rule changes. They do have problems outside of rule changes that are killing the sport. Their scheduling and league setup (who they play and when) makes me not want to watch sometimes. Too many bad teams isn't good. 82 games is about 42 too many in my opinion. If you want to see the flyers play Vancouver, Calgary, LA, San Jose, or any other west coast team, those games should be on Saturday or Sunday and be at 4 or 7pm EST. They should probably be in the middle third of the season also. They should try to play a lot of division rivals early and late in the season. They need to find a way to promote these rivalries more. I would never miss a game live because there was always intensity and anger that you couldn't reproduce during a replay the next day. Since those emotions aren't there anymore, and the game is mostly just skill, I just watch that in about ten minutes on YouTube the next day. I'm not pooing on anyone's rule changes but the shootout and 3 on 3 have been exciting to me.
  13. I've never been one to hate the shootout. It may not show exactly who the better team is, but it does show who has more talent and skill. I'm not being a jerk when I say this, but is it a coincidence that the fans of the worst shootout team in history hate the shootout? I blame the flyers for never addressing it as if it never existed. Their lack of success in the shootout is directly associated with the lack of talent. I also think the 3 on 3 is usually pretty exciting and I think it determines a winner more times than not. One thing I can't support is a tie. Although it wouldn't matter all that much in the regular season, I still would feel jipped if I went to a game that ended in a tie. I think soccer is OK, but when I hear the game ended in a tie, especially on a stage such as the world cup, it just makes me never want to watch. I'm open for some different way to get a winner but I'm not sure what that would be. So for now I'm fine with a 3 on 3 OT, and then letting skill determine it if needed.
  14. I can't answer that. Surely there has to be someone worse, but for a big hockey market like Philadelphia, he's most likely the worst. That should be enough to move on from him, but who knows if his bosses think that.
  15. I also think what happened yesterday could be a good thing. Let's look at 2 scenarios. 1. Fans are all anticipating JVR gets dealt. Chuck unloads him at the deadline for a 4th rounder. Fans ease up. The team gets loose and they win a few games down the stretch. The flyers end up drafting at somewhere around 10th because of the meaningless games they won, and they have a 4th round pick that's not going to do anything to improve the team. The clueless team at Comcast says "chuck got it done and the fans seemed to have calmed down a little". They give chuck another year as GM. 2. Yesterday happens. Fans are irate. JVR is still on the team. He makes the team worse as it is, but now he's disgruntled because chuck says nobody want him. He doesn't want to push himself too hard, Hayesy gets even more lazy, and the entire team is already packing it in. They lose almost all their remaining games and move up in the draft lottery. Nobody is attending games, and the few that do attend are chanting "fire chuck...fire chuck." Comcast is tired of being embarrassed so they finally fire him. The flyers get a top 3 lottery pick and they have a new GM to make the pick and move some bad contracts in the off-season. I can hope right?
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