Ok guys, I'm a fairly patient person ( you kinda have to be to be a Philly fan ) but this has gone on way too long. The only time we win is when our O makes up for the D.... if they don't it's no contest. In any case, I'm willing to blow up the rest of the season and start building a new D. There's been way too many turnovers and zero puck control. Does our D even care who they pass the puck to these days. Maybe it's time to pull the C and give it to someone else. I think Zac is the only flyer these days that seems to give 100 percent 100 percent of the time. Too bad he lacks the talent of some of our guys who seem to skate around in circles and just watch the game go by them. I don't know what the answer is but something needs to be done and I'm willing to give up this season to start the process now. Ok, I think I feel better now... maybe I'll even feel better after I get a drink <g>.