Who do we draft ?

[Podein25]

19 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

I've read all that before about him.

 

Earlier in the year he was easily a top ten prospect...even closer to top five. But his lack of physical play (people see his size and want him to be physical ) has made his stock drop. If he was what those write-ups say, wouldn't he be up there with the Tkachuks and Dubois' instead of in the 15-20 range? Rick Nash? He went 1st overall.

 

Honestly, at where we're picking, he might be worth a shot. But he looks like a poor mans version of JVR. 

 

He also can't skate for ****, IMO

[flyercanuck]

How was the Mini - apple?

[Podein25]

4 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

How was the Mini - apple?

 

Fantastic, except for the fact that every single street downtown was under construction. Election year, I guess.

 

Concert was fab. Didn't go to First Ave to see any shows, which felt weird, but walked by to see the Prince shrine outside. Cool time to be there.

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

I honestly don't see Hextall and company going after Julien Gauthier. He's a right winger and it's not a position of need right now. Right now, the top right wingers on the club are Simmonds and Voracek. Add in Aube-Kubel and Konecny to the mix and right wing is in great shape. In terms of left wing, I really believe that's where they're looking. I honestly believe it's going to be Max Jones they go with. Jones is a goal scorer with an NHL two-way game already. He's an incredibly physical player with great hands and great skating ability. On top of that, Jones adds some much needed snarl into the forwards. He'll be back in London next year and I'm willing to bet he'll be a 40 to 45 goal scorer next season. He could be an elite power forward in the making and he plays a position where the Flyers are weak. Just makes too much sense (and this is coming from a guy who started out not really liking Jones at all, but grew to love him as the Knights season went on and on). One other thing I should add about Jones - he is the ULTIMATE team guy and will do anything for his club to win and Hextall LOVES those kind of players (search Ron's comments about Bellemare - Hextall said he wised every player was as selfless as Bellemare was and would be doing anything like him to win any game, no matter what). 

 

If Jones isn't around, then the other guy I'd hope they look at is Adam Mascherin from Kitchener. He's 5'9, but 200 pounds. He's built like a tank, can skate like the wind, has an incredible shot and a very high IQ for the game. He's a Pat Verbeek type of player. He's a tough little guy with a mean streak to go with it. If Mascherin were 6'1, he'd be in the running for being one of the top four in this draft. No doubt about it. He could be a real gift.

 

I'm very content with one of the two. I'd also be content if Ron traded down and acquired even more picks along the way.  

[AJgoal]

On ‎5‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 11:09 AM, radoran said:

 

Yeah, could be a second - was kinda throwing out a "start of discussion" trade option.

 

I guess the Oil could prefer Hamonic (who wears 3 for the Holy Trinity) as opposed to del Zotto (who has three pornstars on speed dial )

 

Do you think they go straight up for Hamonic??

 

 

Hey, @flyercanuck, can you give us a breakdown of Dubois/Tkatchuk? I know it's unlikely we get up high enough for either, but you're pretty well versed on Juniors, and seem to be on these guys in particular.

[flyercanuck]

Both big (Dubois 6'3" 205 Tkachuk 6'1" 195) players who can skate and have great hands. Dubois has a great one timer, Tkachuk is really good at tipping the puck, both have NHL shots though Dubois is what you'd call blistering. Both great at wreaking havoc in front of the net...They both can infuriate other teams though I think Dubois is the meaner S.O.B. of the two...he looks the guy other teams are going to hate playing against..not that Tkachuk isn't(he IS his fathers son). I think Tkachuk is a junkyard dog while Dubois is an angry rabid wolverine on steroids.

 

Dubois can play center, or LW. He can play make, score and shutdown. He makes everyone around him better. Tkachuk is a LWer. He can definitely score and setup plays. Sometimes its hard to get a good read because he plays with Marner and Dvorak...he obviously benefits, as they do, with having great linemates and playing on a team that likes padding its players stats. I'd say Dubois drives his lines play while Tkachuk more rides shotgun. Dubois scored more goals, on a lesser team with poorer linemates.

 

I don't think you could go wrong with either player. I do think if Dubois' father was a hall of famer and he played for London he'd be ranked 3-4 while if Tkachuks name was Dubois and he played out east in Gods country he'd more likely be in the 6-10 range. They are both similar players, but Dubois can play center, he's bigger, meaner, younger and probably better without the puck. If I'm picking I'm taking Dubois 4th overall. I might take him 3rd.

 

Tkachuk was born late 97 Dubois won't turn 18 til draft day.

[AJgoal]

Awesome, thanks!

[Podein25]

2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

Dubois scored more goals, on a lesser team with poorer linemates.

 

2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

Tkachuk was born late 97 Dubois won't turn 18 til draft day.

 

Both salient points. And I agree: I might take him 3rd too.

[OccamsRazor]

They will have to move up to have a shot at either of those guys. I think they have the ammo to do it....depends on if Hexy would rather used said ammo for immediate help or would he use it on kids who wouldn't be able to even help for 3+ more years. I guess it depends on how close he views the big club.

[flyercanuck]

You'd have to get the 4th or 5th pick to have a shot at one of them. They could both be gone by 5..but I doubt it.

 

This is fairly recent...

 

 

[AJgoal]

There's got to be a lot of thought and preparation put into this offseason, especially leading up to the draft. There are definitely scenarios I could see providing opportunities for the Flyers to get into the top 10. For example. Calgary picks 6th. They need goaltending. Something Hextall might consider, depending on how he sees his depth at the position, is packaging one of the two goalies with #17 to get to 6 - Calgary is also a potential partner if he wants to move a goalie, but they're only at #12. There might be an opportunity to send a defenseman to Edmonton in a package for #4. I don't see Vancouver as much of a partner. Ditto Montreal, they need offense that the Flyers don't have to give. Arizona is a wild card with their new GM.

 

That said, there's no problem standing pat. While it would be great to get up around 5-6 to nab a young player at a position of need, Hextall can't focus so much on that that he gives up too much. He's been pretty good about it, so I trust he won't overpay.

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

4 hours ago, AJgoal said:

There's got to be a lot of thought and preparation put into this offseason, especially leading up to the draft. There are definitely scenarios I could see providing opportunities for the Flyers to get into the top 10. For example. Calgary picks 6th. They need goaltending. Something Hextall might consider, depending on how he sees his depth at the position, is packaging one of the two goalies with #17 to get to 6 - Calgary is also a potential partner if he wants to move a goalie, but they're only at #12. There might be an opportunity to send a defenseman to Edmonton in a package for #4. I don't see Vancouver as much of a partner. Ditto Montreal, they need offense that the Flyers don't have to give. Arizona is a wild card with their new GM.dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

 

That said, there's no problem standing pat. While it would be great to get up around 5-6 to nab a young player at a position of need, Hextall can't focus so much on that that he gives up too much. He's been pretty good about it, so I trust he won't overpay.

 

You're right. I think Hextall is going to stay put or even move down and get some more picks. If Ron moves down to the 20s, but secures an extra second I'd be ok with that. Fill that pipeline with as much talent as you can get. Let everyone fight it out for who gets a job and who doesn't. I love competitive camps like that. That's where you see the special and elite do their thing, which is a joy to watch.

[Jam1986]

How about Riley Tufte?

[OccamsRazor]

 

Flyers projected to take big, scoring winger in early mock draft

 

http://sonsofpenn.com/flyers/flyers-projected-to-take-big-scoring-winger-in-early-mock-draft/

 

It’s draft season baby.

The NHL Draft Lottery was held last Saturday, which unofficially kicked off the NHL Draft season. Teams that missed the playoffs are now certain in where they are drafting, and the teams that were eliminated early in the postseason are looking forward to next year.

The Philadelphia Flyers will pick either 17th or 18th, depending on how the Nashville Predators fare in the second round, and are projected to take a big, scoring winger inCorey Pronman’s early mock draft.

18. Philadelphia Flyers
Julien Gauthier, RW, Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
Age: 18 | GP: 54 | G: 41 | A: 16

Gauthier has slid down draft boards in the second half of the season after being seen as a sure-thing top-15 pick in November. He’s still a pretty coveted player, and would fit in well in the Flyers system because of his size (6-foot-4, 225 pounds) and high-end skill; currently, the pipeline is stacked on defense and has a good, small center in Travis Konency.

Gauthier was a teammate of Nicolas Aube-Kubel in Val-d’Or this season, and it looks like he’d be a solid fit in the Flyers’ prospect pool.

Here’s another scouting report on Gauthier from Curtis Joe at Elite Prospects.

An explosive power forward who boasts an elite-level skill package. Takes nothing for granted and plays with hard-nosed work ethic. Tremendous vision and outstanding hockey sense; thrives under pressure and doesn’t stray from the high-percentage play. Willingness to play physical and win battles in his own end makes him a vital asset, stepping up at the game’s key moments. Exceptional skating ability allows him to stay with, if not ahead, of each unfolding play. Refined puckhandling skills allow him to maintain puck control at breakneck speeds. All-in-all, a prolific scorer whose attitude and innate abilities will constantly propel him into dominance.

Gauthier’s points per game this season stayed almost exactly the same as last season , scoring 57 points in 54 games (1.06 PPG) this year opposed to 73 in 68 (1.07) last season. He scored in 22 of 24 games from October 18th to January 15th, causing him to shoot up the draft boards. However, a bit of a slow February and March (13 points in 19 games) caused him to drop some from his November ranking (he scored 17 points in nine November games) as Pronman noted.

The Flyers have a lot of prospect depth in terms of defensemen and goalies, but their forwards are lacking. Most of their top offensive prospects (Travis Konecny, Oskar Lindblom, Aube-Kubel) are smaller, and adding a big body with talent like Gauthier would make sense for Ron Hextall and company.

It’s still early, so a lot of things can change from now until June 24th, but keep an eye out for some of the prospects the Flyers might be linked to.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=213464

 

 

 

Let me state i'm just posting this here for the subject matter. I don't agree Flyers don't need another RW. My choice if he is there is Max Jones.

 

But center or LW with size is my choice.

[flyercanuck]

2 hours ago, Jam1986 said:

How about Riley Tufte?

 

How do you get a read on a big kid who can skate with soft hands who elects to play in a wide open barely physical league against substandard opponents? He racks up points....who wouldn't who's a legit NHL draft candidate against high schools?

 

In the Hlinka tournament against actual competition he had zero points. He sounds like a player...size and skill with speed, but can he play in a closely checked league with big hitters? How do you tell?

 

I'd like a little sandpaper with skill in our first pick, but if his game can translate to the NHL he's certainly someone to keep in mind. I just have no idea if he can. It's like John Candy on the Bay Leaves...

[flyercanuck]

1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

Flyers projected to take big, scoring winger in early mock draft

 

http://sonsofpenn.com/flyers/flyers-projected-to-take-big-scoring-winger-in-early-mock-draft/

 

It’s draft season baby.

The NHL Draft Lottery was held last Saturday, which unofficially kicked off the NHL Draft season. Teams that missed the playoffs are now certain in where they are drafting, and the teams that were eliminated early in the postseason are looking forward to next year.

The Philadelphia Flyers will pick either 17th or 18th, depending on how the Nashville Predators fare in the second round, and are projected to take a big, scoring winger inCorey Pronman’s early mock draft.

18. Philadelphia Flyers
Julien Gauthier, RW, Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
Age: 18 | GP: 54 | G: 41 | A: 16

Gauthier has slid down draft boards in the second half of the season after being seen as a sure-thing top-15 pick in November. He’s still a pretty coveted player, and would fit in well in the Flyers system because of his size (6-foot-4, 225 pounds) and high-end skill; currently, the pipeline is stacked on defense and has a good, small center in Travis Konency.

Gauthier was a teammate of Nicolas Aube-Kubel in Val-d’Or this season, and it looks like he’d be a solid fit in the Flyers’ prospect pool.

Here’s another scouting report on Gauthier from Curtis Joe at Elite Prospects.

An explosive power forward who boasts an elite-level skill package. Takes nothing for granted and plays with hard-nosed work ethic. Tremendous vision and outstanding hockey sense; thrives under pressure and doesn’t stray from the high-percentage play. Willingness to play physical and win battles in his own end makes him a vital asset, stepping up at the game’s key moments. Exceptional skating ability allows him to stay with, if not ahead, of each unfolding play. Refined puckhandling skills allow him to maintain puck control at breakneck speeds. All-in-all, a prolific scorer whose attitude and innate abilities will constantly propel him into dominance.

Gauthier’s points per game this season stayed almost exactly the same as last season , scoring 57 points in 54 games (1.06 PPG) this year opposed to 73 in 68 (1.07) last season. He scored in 22 of 24 games from October 18th to January 15th, causing him to shoot up the draft boards. However, a bit of a slow February and March (13 points in 19 games) caused him to drop some from his November ranking (he scored 17 points in nine November games) as Pronman noted.

The Flyers have a lot of prospect depth in terms of defensemen and goalies, but their forwards are lacking. Most of their top offensive prospects (Travis Konecny, Oskar Lindblom, Aube-Kubel) are smaller, and adding a big body with talent like Gauthier would make sense for Ron Hextall and company.

It’s still early, so a lot of things can change from now until June 24th, but keep an eye out for some of the prospects the Flyers might be linked to.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=213464

 

 

 

Let me state i'm just posting this here for the subject matter. I don't agree Flyers don't need another RW. My choice if he is there is Max Jones.

 

But center or LW with size is my choice.

 

I may be wrong but this guy just screams "bust" to me.

[Podein25]

3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

I may be wrong but this guy just screams "bust" to me.

 

My only viewing was the WJCs and I didn't like what I saw. Granted he was playing against mostly 18 year olds, but he looked slow to me. I certainly didn't witness this: " Exceptional skating ability allows him to stay with, if not ahead, of each unfolding play"

[flyer4ever]

J Gauthier made the Canada junior team this past year, very rare for an undrafted player. Like most of the team, he was used sparingly by a very bad coaching staff, probably hurting his confidence. If he is available at #18 I would take a shot with him. It appears that the current Flyer coaching staff and the new development style could push him to big things. The team definitely needs big and fast off the wing.

[OccamsRazor]

Ok after doing a lot of research on Kieffer Bellows i would be ok with him. Max Jones as well. But from everything i have seen the Flyers are going to have to move up to get either.

 

They have the ammo to do such....in Hexy i trust.

[OccamsRazor]

Just because of the topic of conversation the last couple days about Flyer Dmen.......

 

2016 NHL draft scouting report: Jake Bean could be another quality puck-moving defenseman for Flyers

 

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/flyers-draft-nhl/2016/5/23/11680976/jake-bean-profile-scouting-report-nhl-draft-2016

 

 

 

Have at it......