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Game 32: Red Wings at Flyers; 12/18 @ 7
OccamsRazor replied to Howie58's topic in Philadelphia Flyers
My biggest concern is we know Giroux is a passer so those two combined and that leaves only TK to fire a puck on net. Kid (Patrick) won't f**king shoot unless it's a perfect shot. He has 4 shots on goal the last 4 games. That is terrible for a 2nd line center. And yes sit Mcdud in the box making popcorn. Let Folin and Ghost play together they played well the time I seen them together. Mcdud brings zero value to this team. -
Oh of course I wouldn't want to give up those prospects for Quick or Crawford... But Fletch is dealing from a position of extreme weakness. Especially if Fletch is looking for a two-birds-with-one-stone kind of deal (e.g. Keith/Crawford, Doughty/Quick), those deals will cost us assets we don't want to see go. Almost any deal will. I think we were spoiled under Hextall with him flat out refusing to trade any young guys... unfortunately, that turned out to be part of his undoing lol. But, maybe he will surprise us. Until he actually makes a deal as the Flyers GM, we don't know what he's willing to do.
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Exactly. There is no lineup to "fix the Flyers" in goal, or on D, or with the depth at forward. There is no one player, or two for that matter, that makes us contenders. So why trade away an entire career of what could be very good players for a short term slight improvement. That gives us a worse draft pick.
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Pretty much. The Flyers rank near the bottom in almost every important category, and there's just not much to watch. Patrick is frighteningly bad, Lindblom is barely playing, our goaltending is a farce, Ghost and Provorov look like they've been coached by MacDonald, their new coach is just another lame duck with an expiry date. It's hard to get excited about an organization that has bungled almost everything since the moment Hextall was fired.... in fact, they bungled that too. So bring on Carter Hart!
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Well first off bro you can take those prospect off the list for them in the first place. If I was to trade for either of those has been it will be for picks or 2nd tier prospect or I would just hang up the damn phone and ride this sh it fest down the pooper for the year. F**K THAT SH IT!
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I don't know if he is the right fit. I am concerned how he likes to play vets like Hak did over the kids. He did it all the time on the Phantoms. And I think he will do it here. Hey I hope to be wrong but he has to prove me wrong first.
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Right, but Crawford has a concussion, and Quick has an injury history too. So in the end, is it worth gambling some potentially very good assets (e.g. Sanheim, Frost, Ghost, Lindblom, draft picks) for guys with injury histories that may or may not give us better goaltending this year? I mean, is there really an urgency to upgrade in goal with a short-term solution right now? We have a 7% chance of making the playoffs, so I would say this is a lost season, and moves should be made with the future in mind. Like you suggested, more under the radar/backup types like an Ullmark or Dansk would be more viable, would cost less, and would have more longevity. Plus it would allow Fletcher to make a more serious move - if the case need be - for a bridge to Carter Hart at the deadline / offseason / draft when more choices are available. Right now, the Flyers are desperate and the rest of the league knows it.
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Ok I see now at first when I read that I forgot all about the quote from Eklund because I'm thinking I don't remember writing that. It's Eklund and ya never know what he means.
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Well I really don't want any part of of Crawford or Quick. But IF I had to choose between the two I would take Crawford only because he is only on the books for next year at 6 mill. Quick is signed for too long and man he looked terrible the other night when I watched him play. He honestly is on the same level as Elliott to me the goals he was letting in looked just like Elliott he has been a fav of mine for a long time but his skills have eroded at light speed since last year. Please Gawd don't trade for him.
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Soooo.... no Quenneville this season ??
murraycraven replied to hf101's topic in Philadelphia Flyers
Guess I am on the other side of the fence here... I do think he will finish out the season as the Head Coach unless Coach Q comes knocking on the door. Gordon might be the best fit to get this team settled. The season is over and the fact is they are not making the playoffs unless Messier and Gretzky somehow time warp to this season and play for the O&B. Right now I think the positive is that Gordon knows most of these players so hopefully he can fine-tune some of the lineup decisions that Hak could never get right. This season is a total ****-show so I have no expectations about anything. My guess Q does not even consider offers until later this season. And frankly, I am not sure he would like to come to Philly with everything that is going on here. We don't even know what this team will look like come the trade deadline... -
I think everyone here agrees Dubnyk is overplayed. That stat is interesting but don't you think it's also reflects how we have not played a full 60 minute often times. Out of gas or Foot off gas.
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Game 32: Red Wings at Flyers; 12/18 @ 7
murraycraven replied to Howie58's topic in Philadelphia Flyers
After Hart gets lit up tonight this board will have him labeled as a "bust" by 11pm this evening. In all seriousness the only reason I am watching is to see Hart in net. Outside of that I really have no interest in this waste of a season. -
I'm confused who the 'we' is in this sentence. It's certainly not the more vocal folks on this board. (I'm assuming that's a we not a he)
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lil' Paul McCartney was money...
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I know @vis is gonna kick me for bringing this up, but Charlie made a great point on BSH radio this morning. Basically, he said that them turning around and saying "Gordon is the coach, we expect him to coach for the rest of the year..." Is at least as likely to be them just wanting him to not have the cloud hovering over him the same way Hakstol had over the past three weeks, as it is the absolute truth. That the players have to believe that he's the guy, and that he's going to remain the guy in order to stabilize things a little bit. So Gordon's the coach until he isn't, but I'm not necessarily going to be surprised if he isn't sooner than the org seems to be saying.
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Well, suffice to say my expectations for tonight's game are below "low". The Wings are "in theory" in "tear it down" mode yet they seem to skate and compete and been pretty frisky so far this year. I don't have any hope for the "Gordon factor" to have any effect until after the holidays. Then, well we'll see, he does favor going forward and attacking, so the games might be more exciting to watch. Depending on how it goes for young Carter Hart this could be the start of something big, or a taste of what's to come so he can see where he needs improvement. Of all of our youngsters, I think he's best equipped to handle the bumble fucquery that has been the 18/19 Philadelphia Flyers and not be scarred for life.
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Yeah, not a fan of Patrick up top, but I understand the thinking... it might be about to only way to wake him up. If he can't produce with those guys, something's wrong. The biggest switch I would make is MacDud down with Hagg and Ghost with Gudas. Or put Folin back in for MacDud. Or put MacDud in Hak's overhead cargo bin.
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No, I saw the Voracek part. I'm just not sure any of the teams you mentioned would be interested because of remaining term and cost. The Avs don't need him (certainly not if it includes their starting goaltender), and the Sens probably don't want to go in that direction. They're cheap anyway. The Jackets? Maybe, especially since they drafted him originally, and they could use some offensive pop. Biggest problem is that they will need a #1 goalie to be competitive, so unless they have a plan to replace him in-season, I'm not sure it's a viable move for them. Honestly, the Chicago and LA proposals seems to make more sense because they're looking at lost seasons, so it's more about shuffling around assets and refocusing rather than trying to be competitive this year.
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you over looked Voracek going to other way with one of those....right? He would be a nice 2nd line RW for them since Varly is a free agent at the end of the year.
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No one is trading us their starting goaltender. Elliott and Lyon have zero value.
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2018-19 Iowa Wild and other Wild Prospects Discussion
CreaseAndAssist replied to pilldoc's topic in Minnesota Wild
Motte hasn't been bad. Its the power play scoring tailing off and the penalties that have been the bigger story IMO. Early in the season Iowa was converting on the power play at nearly a 30% clip. Not having Sam Anas (hand injury) and Cal O'Reilly has really set that back. But Hammond returning certainly would not hurt, especially for Kahkonen's confidence as you said. -
Wild vs. Sharks Game Preview Minnesota Wild (17-13-2) 36pts 4th in the Central 3.16 Goals For Per Game (12th in the NHL) 2.81 Goals Against Per Game (8th in the NHL) 24.3% Power Play (8th in the NHL) 85.6% Penalty Kill (2nd in the NHL) Top 5 Scorers: 1. #64 Mikael Granlund ~ 11G 22A = 33pts 2. #11 Zach Parise ~ 15G 14A = 29pts 3. #20 Ryan Suter ~ 4G 22A = 26pts 4. #12 Eric Staal ~ 12G 10A = 22pts 5. #24 Matthew Dumba ~ 12G 10A = 22pts Top 3 PIM’s: 1. #17 Marcus Foligno ~ 23 PIM’s 2. #23 J.T. Brown ~ 22 PIM’s 3. #21 Eric Fehr ~ 22 PIM’s Top Goaltenders: 1. #40 Devan Dubnyk (12-10-2) 2.63GAA .913%SP 2. #32 Alex Stalock (5-3-0) 2.65GAA .904%SP Vs. San Jose Sharks (17-11-5) 39pts 3rd in the Central 3.29 Goals For Per Game (9th in the NHL) 2.97 Goals Against Per Game (15th in the NHL) 24.5% Power Play (7th in the NHL) 85.3% Penalty Kill (3rd in the NHL) Top 5 Scorers: 1. #39 Logan Couture ~ 11G 23A = 34pts 2. #88 Brent Burns ~ 4G 30A = 34pts 3. #28 Timo Meier ~ 18G 15A = 33pts 4. #8 Joe Pavelski ~ 20G 7A = 27pts 5. #48 Tomas Hertl ~ 10G 15A = 25pts Top 3 PIM’s: 1. #9 Evander Kane ~ 63 PIM’s 2. #23 Barclay Goodrow ~ 23 PIM’s 3. #4 Brendan Dillon ~ 20 PIM’s Top Goaltenders: 1. #31 Martin Jones (13-7-3) 2.93GAA .897%SP 2. #30 Aaron Dell (5-4-2) 2.68AA .906%SP 2SO MNSOTA wrote up the game preview, I'll be on the post-gamer. This should be a spirited game as both clubs do not want to lose anymore ground in their respective divisions as they sit in the middle of the pack. Wild are a spot out of the last wild card if the season ended today. San Jose had a back and forth game against Chicago on Sunday, while the Wild are coming off a tough loss against the Flames. Zucker and Koivu are back, and Dumba is out. Prosser's back in as Pateryn and Spurgeon move up as right-side defenseman. Enjoy and discuss.
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Good, then I'm not just being blinded by my bias against dumb-fuqery.
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It would be nice if we could find a happy medium from Hextall's glacier movement like patience to Homer quick trade everyone for everyone who is available mentality... ...somewhere in between maybe be tolerable.
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I feel like we'll never know the full story of what happened with this whole situation. So many things seem like loose ends that could easily just have been fed to build a narrative. Did Hexy refuse to fire Hakstol? Sure, it's possible. Was he a control freak? Also possible. How was that last idea never leaked out in any way that I know of? I don't know. He did keep a tight ship. At the same time, it's also possible much of that was overblown in an attempt to feed the media. Large corps and gov't does this all the time. Scott would definitely fit that mould. I do find it telling that Provo didn't stick up for his coach though. The players aren't spin doctors. Their reactions and words seem more likely to be truthful to me. I trust Homer and Dave Scott about as far as I can throw them. Their both smarmy lizards.
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Just like I figured. You and HF101 are never going to discipline a Flyers fan like Intheslot for attacking me unprovoked. I will take care of myself. But the next time that jerk comes at me, I am not going to just sit back and take it· 0 replies
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Just so you know the topic I brought up was the Nylander signing or unsigning if you will?· 0 replies
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Intheslot coming after me calling me a horses arse in the chat box unprovoked. I have told Pilldoc also. I am sick of this kind of attack for no reason· 0 replies
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OK, in the chat box I am talking hockey, go see. Intheslot calls me a horses arse for no reason. I am sick of these attacks· 0 replies
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