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As some of you who have posted with me over the last few years may know, I usually take an interest in a team outside my own for various reasons. Sometimes players I like change over to another team, the team itself has done interesting things in a given off season, or the team is just plain fun to watch. This season, I have been enjoying Vancouver Canuck games. Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson, Edler, Tanev, Miller, Hughes, Myers, Gaudette, Demko and even Markstrom in a contract year. What's not to like here? These guys play hard, play fast, and while they still have their issues defensively and their goaltending still needs larger sample sizes to truly judge if they have gotten better, the bottom line is, the team is very entertaining to watch. Thatcher Demko, in particular, if he pans out...wow.... Canucks may have found their long term goalie. Not sure if the Canucks make the playoffs this year, but they certainly should be in the mix, especially since the Pacific isn't looking overly strong this season. Van has lost some big games against the Oilers and Flames, but have also pulled out some equally big wins against the Flyers and Cup champion Blues. As of this posting, the Canucks are locked in a goalie duel with the NJ Devils. MacKenzie Blackwood and Thatcher Demko putting on a good show. And of course, this game features Hughes vs Hughes as Jack and Quinn's teams go mano a mano.
I’m not up on contracts, but if the wild send someone down and they don’t clear waivers, who pays the salary and who takes the salary cap hit.
They're off to a rocky start, 1-4-2 G diff. -13 but yeah, based on what I'm seeing now and if able to keep up this level of play, they shouldn't be a bottom feeder this year.
Oct 18: Dinos Win and Cougar Surprises Steal Spotlight CALGARY DINOSAURS 5 MANITOBA BISONS 2 Links: LeagueStat: [Summary] : [Report] CW Hockey Tech: [Summary] : [Report] : [Text] Boxscores: [USP/CIS] : [Coach's View] : [UofM] Stories: [UofM] : [rp @CW] : [rp @UofC] The Bedrock Dinos showed why they're #1 in the OHT35. In short, the Bisons played pretty well but to beat the Dinos they will need the odd break and some big performances. A couple big, strong forwards would help as well. Here's how they lined up: MANITOBA BISONS Goal 30 Lamb (1 Link) Defence 2 Henry 3 Christensen 4 Stanley 6 Dyck 5 Schioler 28 Pouteau Forwards 29 Wasylak 12 Jameson 22 Leipsic 14 Keane 25 Skrumeda 17 Veloso 11 Carlson 10 Skoleski 19 Halvorson 16 Tripp 9 Thiessen 15 Dalke Scratches 8 Barley 13 Labossiere 20 Apetagon 21 Harris 26 Leblanc 27 Doerksen 35 Brown CALGARY DINOSAURS Goal 1 Greenfield (31 Salmond) Defence 44 Hines 7 Brown 29 Shearer 3 Gagnon 42 Gibson 41 Khaira Forwards 11 Elder 17 Gordon 16 Alfaro 23 Graham 21 L Fisher 22 Cook 39 Zablocki 15 Vanstone 24 Harrison 9 Black 18 Xavier 26 Schoonbaert Scratches 2 Kearley 5 Henderson 10 R Fisher 27 Rauckman 28 Uhrich 30 Gutenberg Quick Summary 1st 1:12 CD Gordon (2) ASST: Hines Vanstone 1st 8:00 MB Tripp (1) ASST: Dalke Thiessen 1st 8:44 MB Keane (2) ASST: Veloso Jameson (PP) 2nd 8:52 CD Elder (3) ASST: Alfaro Gordon 2nd 15:29 CD Elder (4) ASST: Gordon Alfaro 3rd 4:45 CD Cook (3) ASST: L Fisher (PP) 3rd 19:02 CD Elder (5) ASST: Gordon Shearer (PP) W: Greenfield (12 saves, 14 shots) L: Lamb (45 saves, 50 shots) The shots were 25-13 through two periods, and the score 3-2, both in favour of the Dinos. The Bison forwards did not manage a load of shots but did generate two high quality opportunities off passing plays, and two of those were converted. In the 3rd period the shots were 25-1 for the Dinos. The TSN Turning Point would have been the 4-2 goal. After that one, the Dinos locked down the Bisons. The rematch goes Saturday at 2:00 p.m. OUT-OF-TOWN SCOREBOARD LETHBRIDGE PRONGHORNS 0 SASKATCHEWAN HUSKIES 5 Links: LeagueStat: Summary Boxscores: CWHT : USP/CIS Stories: UofS : rp @CW : UofL I know it's early, but this was a must-win for the Banjo Mutts. In fact, Saturday's rematch is also a must-win game. The threat of going from 25-3 to a cellar-dweller would not sit well in Hillbillyland. Carson Stadnyk led the way with 2 goals. Taran Kozun got the win with an 18 save shut-out. Taz Burman got the loss after being yanked in the 2nd period, stopping 13 of 16 shots. Nikolas Amundrud finished with 22 saves on 24 shots. MOUNT ROYAL COUGARS 7 ALBERTA GOLDEN BEARS 3 Links: LeagueStat: Summary Boxscores: CWHT : USP/CIS Stories: UofA : rp @CW : rp @MRU* Well this one will get the tongues wagging nation-wide. Like I said in pre-season, MRU recruited what they needed. I never pegged them to win 3 straight road games against Sask and Alberta, however. That Bison split last weekend sure looks good now, eh? The Evil Monkeys did rack up the shots, outshooting the Bluegars 39-28. Brendan Burke got the loss after a 1st period pulling when he stopped just 5 of 8 shots. Matt Berlin stopped 16 of 19 shots in relief. Wyatt Hoflin stopped 36 of 39 for the W. Connor Chartier scored twice for MRU, including a shorthanded penalty shot. MRU hosts Saturday's rematch. REGINA COUGARS 2 U.B.C. THUNDERBIRDS 1 Links: LeagueStat: Summary Boxscores: CWHT : USP/CIS* Stories: UBC : rp @CW : UofR* On a night when the Evil Monkeys lose at home, the game gets pipped for the title of upset-of-the-night when the previously winless Banjo Cats steal the spotlight. The Tweety-Birds warned that they thought they saw a dangerous puddy-tat but nobody listened. Chalk one up for the Felines! Brand Holtby got the win, with 38 saves on 39 shots. Patrick Dea stopped 23 of 25 in defeat. OUT EAST AUS St. F.X. 3 UNB 6 Saint Mary's 8 UPEI 2 Dalhousie 3 Moncton 2 (OT) OUA Ontario Tech 5 RMC 2 Guelph 3 Carleton 2 Windsor 5 Lakehead 3 Waterloo 1 McGill 6 Brock 3 UQTR 4 (OT) Ryerson 2 York 1 Laurier 5 Concordia 6 Nipissing 4 Laurentian 3 W. Ontario 7 Ottawa 2 Links: • [USP/CIS S&R] • [OUA LS Daily] • [AUS S&R] * indicates link not active as i post
I didn't say soon did I? After the burning,... After some changes from BG...After Hell freezes... give or take. I haven't looked at the schedule, So no looking for a group of struggling teams. Usually doesn't happen that way anyhow. Hopefully a streak happens after some changes because a 5-10 win streak and the brass will think the ship's been righted and pull back on changes. I picked 5 because it's reachable. Less than 4 isn't much of a "streak".
Wonder if the Flyers can ink this kid at the end of the year?
In opposite to our big club, Iowa Wild won the game again, even without Mayhew, last night against Manitoba Moose with a score 6:4(placing 43 shots vs 32). I am glad that Sokolov started to play this season and had 4 shots on goal. Dewar still is not involved.
IMO, no excuses at all for the professional players who are making millions $ per year. Players complains are not acceptable too. Chemistry among the players should be build mainly during their hardly intense daily practices between the games. If players are not capable to produce anything then free the space for the next generation of players who are willing to make a history for the club. Show in professional sport is show, attracting lots of fans as well as involving lots of money.
My personal vote, if only one turns it around is the Sharks. I think the Wild need a complete overhaul, the Devils had a very overrated offseason and the Stars might turn it around but have too many thirty somethings to do it every night.
This is a rare moment in Buffalo. Both the Bills and Sabres are off to great starts And the schedule for the Bills suggests they could go into Dallas on Turkey day, their first Thanksgiving Day game in 20 years, at either 9-1 or 8-2? Most likely game to get knocked off in would be the Eagles and I believe maybe they go to Cleveland before that also? Washington and Denver come in and I do not see the Bills losing those. Miami of course is next and a visit there also should be a win. If not, well, ouch. Its really tough to tell, a month nobody would have put the Sabres in the same category with the Bills. Maybe they are not ready yet? I think both are on the rise. If I had to pick one, I guess I would have to say the Bills are more likely to have a shot to go farther right now.
We can't forget the biggest reflection, Craig Leipold either. He needs to be a owner and back off from any decision making other then what color check to sign and if a new GM is needed.
Flames pull away in 3rd, beat Red Wings 5-1 Game # 8 5 1 The Flames get out to an early lead and never look back as they beat the Red Wings 5-1. By Associated Press 7 hours ago CALGARY, Alberta -- Sam Bennett, Derek Ryan and Mark Giordano scored in a 5:18 span of the third period to break open a close game in the Calgary Flames' 5-1 victory over the Detroit Red Wings on Thursday night. Bennett gave Calgary a 3-1 lead at 3:29, Ryan connected at 4:57 and Giordano added a power-play goal at 8:47. Andrew Mangiapane and Elias Lindholm also scored and David Rittich made 27 saves. Darren Helm scored for Detroit. The Red Wings have lost three in a row to fall to 3-4-0. Mangiapane scored midway through the first period and Lindholm made it 2-0 on a power play halfway through the second. Helm struck 28 seconds later for Detroit.
Marchessault nets shootout winner, Vegas beats Ottawa 3-2 Game # 8 3 2 SO By Associated Press Updated: 4 hours ago LAS VEGAS -- Mark Stone stood at his locker, shook his head and gave a sigh of relief. "I didn't want to lose that game," Stone said. "Being honest." And that is why Stone was the first player onto the ice to hug teammate Jonathan Marchessault after he scored his first career shootout game-winning goal, lifting the Vegas Golden Knights past the Ottawa Senators 3-2. "We wanted to get that win for Stoney," Marchessault said. "It's an emotional night when you face your old team for the first time and he's a big part of our group, he's our leader up front and it was great to see that he was so happy there." Stone, who played 366 games for Ottawa, faced his former team for the first time. Stone was acquired from the Senators at the trade deadline in February for Oscar Lindberg, prospect Erik Brannstrom and a 2020 second-round pick. "Seeing that logo on the other side was different. I wore that logo with a lot of pride, enjoyed playing for that team, for that city," Stone said. "It was weird, it really was. That being said, Vegas is the place I want to be. It was the only place I wanted to go. I've never been through anything like that. It was different, nerve-wracking at times, but happy to get that win." Reilly Smith and Nick Holden scored for Vegas, while Stone notched the 200th assist of his career. Vegas fired a franchise-record 54 shots on goal before needing the extra period to earn the two points. Marc-Andre Fleury made 37 saves, as it marked the fourth straight game and sixth of eight the Golden Knights allowed an opponent to shoot 35 or more on goal. "I'm always impressed with him," Stone said of Fleury. "I shoot at him every day. He's the hardest worker on our team, so that's kind of a trickle-down effect for us." After being outshot 52-34 in regulation, the Senators outshot Vegas 5-2 in overtime, and it took several spectacular saves by Fleury to force the shootout. "I'm not too happy with that, obviously," coach Gerard Gallant said. "We're just giving up too much. We gotta clean up our defensive game and play better. We got away with it tonight, we had great goaltending, they had outstanding goaltending also. But we're giving up too much." Anders Nilsson, who lost his only previous start against Vegas by allowing five goals, was spectacular in just his second start in net this season, making 52 saves against the high-powered Golden Knights. Thomas Chabot and Jean-Gabriel Pageau scored for Ottawa. "That's a really good team. They're fast, they're physical, and I really liked our guys' effort," Ottawa coach D.J. Smith said. "I thought we stood up to them. Our goalie was outstanding. But we had our chances as well, and their goalie was outstanding. It's a tough building to get points in. We'd got one, we'd like two." Smith said considering where the Senators are at two weeks into the season, now 1-5-0, and the fact Vegas (5-3-0) is one of the favorites in the Western Conference, he believes his team took a step forward in building confidence during a tough road trip. The Senators, one of the least productive teams offensively this season with just 14 goals, struggled to find any sort of rhythm in their zone, and relied on Nilsson to hang around. The Senators are now 0 for 21 on the power play and are the only team without a power-play goal this season. Smith opened the scoring for the Golden Knights when he took a pass from Marchessault and backhanded a shot under Nilsson's pads 4:12 into the game. The lead wouldn't last. Chabot sent a wrist shot past Fleury to tie the game 1-1. Vegas went back on top later in the period when Holden scored his first goal of the season. On the power play, Holden's one-timer bounced off a stick and into the net, the goal that gave Stone his 200th assist. After a scoreless second period, the Senators tied the game when Pageau smacked a rebound past Fleury's glove just 4:25 into the third period.
Stamkos scores in shootout, Lightning beat Bruins 4-3 Game # 7 3 4 SO Steven Stamkos sends his shootout attempt to the back of the net, lifting Tampa Bay to a 4-3 win vs. Boston. By Associated Press Updated: 7 hours ago BOSTON -- The Tampa Bay Lightning overcame a slow start to win their second straight game and gain some much-needed momentum. Steven Stamkos scored the lone goal in the shootout and Tampa Bay beat the Boston Bruins 4-3 on Thursday night. After the first three shooters for both sides failed, Stamkos put a wrist shot past Bruins goalie Tuukka Rask for the eventual winner. Jake DeBrusk's last chance was stopped by Andrei Vasilevskiy. Brayden Point, Mathieu Joseph and Kevin Shattenkirk scored in regulation for Tampa Bay. Vasilevskiy had 33 saves. David Pastrnak had two goals and an assist, and Patrice Bergeron added a goal for Boston, which scored three power-play goals. Rask stopped 34 shots. "It's a great two points and feels real good right now," Lightning defenseman Ryan McDonagh said. "That's a pretty top end unit that we played tonight and they made us pay." Tampa Bay has won three of four and back-to-back games for the first time this season. The Lightning also notched their 12th win in 64 tries in Boston, improving to 12-46-6. Bruins defenseman Charlie McAvoy was on the ice for all three Lightning regulation goals. "We'll take one point and reflect on it," he said. Shattenkirk gave Tampa Bay a 3-2 lead with 4:47 remaining in regulation. The Bruins' Pastrnak scored 1:42 later, tying the game at 3-3. "Good things happen when you shoot and I had a good screen there," Shattenkirk said. "Their power play is lethal and they won that battle tonight, but we felt we were outplaying them." Pastrnak has 13 points, including eight goals and five assists, in the last five games. "They were fast tonight and were in our face every time we had the puck," Bruins defenseman Torey Krug said. "They are a great team, have the majority of the lineup they had last year and they know how to win." Point tied the game at 1 with 1.6 seconds remaining in the first when he converted a feed from Yanni Gourde and flipped the puck past Rask. "It was a great pass by Gourde," Point said. "We played a complete game tonight and competed the way we needed to." Boston's top line of Pastrnak, Bergeron and Brad Marchand has accounted for 14 of the Bruins' 19 goals this season.
Youre right. Maybe i got off topic. Its been too soon to really get a true ferl fir the team. Watching the same ol jake and lackluster product on ice can alter one's logic The right path is to let AV do what he does and see what happens
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With respect to some good or up n coming teams that Bolts already played this early season, tonight begins a stretch of games that, IMO, will really show what the Lightning have in that locker room. The defending Eastern Champion Boston Bruins are up and the Bolts visit them in their own building. After that, the Lightning come home after a road heavy start to their season and see Colorado, Pittsburgh, and Nashville. So counting the Bruins tonight, that is two potential Eastern Conference finals previews and two potential Stanley Cup finals preview. Sure, that is looking WAY ahead, but as a fan, I can do that. TB players can't....they gotta focus on the teams at hand, but I certainly can and will. Cup or Bust...….
Nope. No signs yet that Point will sign with the Lightning, however, from what I have been reading the Bolts are confident they can get something done before training camp starts.
A few links:
One very good thing in the Bolts' favor is that Points seems to WANT to stay in Tampa Bay.
And why wouldn't he? Not only is it the organization that gave him his chance to be a star player, but it is a wining organization that, despite recent setbacks, still is on track to be a legit Stanley Cup contender for a few years to come.
From what I understand, the locker room is pretty tight knit as well and players all over the league, both current and retired, can probably attest to how important that is not only for a winning culture, but for how much fun a player has "coming to work everyday".
Montreal supposedly made a nice offer to his agent...it was turned down....and Point even seems to understand the situation with the Bolts' cap situation, though he obviously wants to maximize his own earning potential...and rightly so.
Probably why things have taken as long as they have been.
Some things I've seen talked about were bridge deals. A lesser amount than he would like, for a shorter term, to then, afterwards, cash in on a big max term, max dollar contract.
3, 4, or 5 year bridge deals are being talked about. And with Point being only 23, it means that even after a 5 year bridge deal, he would still be in his prime at 28 to sign a big deal either with the Lightning or somewhere else.
And is it a coincidence that the time frame for such a bridge deal goes right with when contracts such as Alex Killorn, Ondrej Palat, or even Tyler Johnson expire (each of those players are making anywhere from 4.5M to 5.2M each)? Hmmmm…….
Will post things regarding Brayden Point on this thread as they become available.
Other posters, are of course, more than welcome to add stuff as they hear them (links would be nice) or simply comment on the Point negotiations, how long a contract he ultimately gets and whether he stays on after a bridge deal (if that is the case).
From the Washington Post
Looks like those saying the Arizona Coyotes will be moving elsewhere are gonna have to wait a bit longer.
New majority owner Alex Meruelo, known for turning around failed businesses, said upon buying the team that he fully intends on keeping the team in Arizona and making it "a viable business".
Great news for Yotes fans (the few I've met really are hardcore, believe it or not) and if this works out, he might be known as the "Jeff Vinik of the Southwest".
Jeff Vinik, of course, is the Lightning owner, who, since taking over the team, has put lots of hard work, hired excellent hockey people, and has turned the Lightning from NHL joke, to perennial contender.
May help Mr. Meruelo's efforts that his Yotes will be moving to the Central division in 2021 where he will be with teams and fanbases from Minnesota, St. Louis, etc...…. not only are the fanbases in the Central seemingly more rabid than those in the Pacific (taking nothing away from the Western Canadian team fanbases), but many retirees come from some of those Central division cities so even as the Yotes look to garner their own solid fanbase, they at least will more easily fill the building as Central division teams make their way to play the Coyotes with more regularity.
I'm actually glad to hear this coming from the new owner as I honestly hate to see cities and areas lose pro teams.
Sincerely hope he can put his past successes at turning around floundering businesses to work here and that he is successful.
Hey, people said Florida was not a viable hockey market, and for awhile, that looked like the case...till Jeff Vinik came in (and pretty much had the same type of attitude towards turning things around that Alex Meruelo seems to have) and MADE it a viable hockey market.
Much success to his efforts....and even now, he has a not-so-bad collection of players to work with.
ruxpin posted a post in a topic,It's possible. But I think right now your biggest issue is timing. The Wild fired Fenton at a time is year where the replacement pool is such that if the candidate were any good, he'd already be working.
Leipold should get a lot of "credit" for badly bungling this situation (and it's on him if what you describe is accurate, and I think it is up an extent). His statements indicate this started at exit interviews.
First of all, if you did any credible due diligence, you knew this before. But make a decision when you did realize it. You don't go to the end of July, in hockey's no man's land (we'll call it "Miami," for short) and then make this move.
Leipold is nearly single-handedly destroying his own franchise.
rottenrefs posted a post in a topic,To answer your question, what makes a good NHL GM?
You noted player personnel wins and losses... But didn't cover anything else. Understandably, I get it, but IMO there's a ton more behind being a good GM.
Looking at it from a fan perspective player personnel is about the only thing one could care about. But from an operations standpoint, or from an owners standpoint, generating $$ is all they ever put much emphasis on. Business, or rather being a successful business equals follow the money.
Something I brought up several years ago was the Wild, under Doug Risenbrough, were an economically successful team. The team never spent to the Cap but they had sellout after sellout. Contrary to some the previous ownership claimed they were losing money. Where have we heard that with the Minnesota North Stars? Hence, they left for Dallas and won a Stanley Cup, 2 Conference Titles, 2 Presidents Trophies and 8 Division Titles... They're doing well generating revenue. They were bought for $84 million in 1995 and are now valued at $525 million. The Dallas Stars are a prime example of spending more (wisely) can create residual earnings. Which is something the Minnesota North Stars never figured out.
Insert the Minnesota Wild. So under Robert Naegele, Jr., and GM Doug Risenbrough, as mentioned they ran a tight ship on spending. Wild fans here viewed them as cheap. The results as some pride themselves as describing, they're a successful team because they've had so many sellouts in a less than desirable "Hockey Market" because everyone here keeps reminding everyone (nationally) that Minnesota isn't a very good hockey market. (That's something I totally disagree with.) Minnesota probably has more hockey pucks and hockey arena's per capita than any other state or Canadian Providence... To match it's 'Land of 10,000 Lakes' boast.
Granted, it's a bit off-topic talking about Minnesota's hockey market, but in the grand scheme of things no one can match Minnesota's superior high school hockey programs or the number of successful college hockey programs... Fans following them could have gone to more North Stars games, or more Wild games... But why if neither of those teams have anything to show for their efforts except being on the losing end of highlight reels (nationwide)?
Okay, back on topic now that I've eliminated any just cause that Minnesota can't be a major hockey market.
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ruxpin posted a post in a topic,The more I'm thinking about this the more I'm coming to the conclusion it's not simply the coach but the result of the coach trying to compensate for the goaltending -- which is ultimately on Hextall.
The centers ARE a mess. And so is Ghost. Why? Because the centers are not staying low in the offensive zone and--Patrick and Coots in particular--not mucking it up in the slot to cheat back to hedge against being caught.
Ghost is doing less going low or pinching much for the same reason. It's possible they're doing this on their own. Whether deliberate or not, it's a natural response to the knowledge that any mistake, any odd man or often even man rush the other way will end up past the incompetent sieves in our net.
It's just as likely that this is per coach directive much for the same reason.
The question remains--bluntly--how does a competent GM look at his goaltending this past summer and not move to fix this while leaving $10M in cap space on the table?
How does that same competent GM go through the summer knowing he doesn't have a 3C and not move to correct that in any sober way? Again, with the $10M sitting there.
I know he doesn't want a contract that blocks kids and doesn't want to move said kids for it, but that effectively and explicitly tosses this season away.
Meanwhile, the tickets are still full price.
You see the results in the stands during the game. The last game, the stands had all the energy of a wake.
There was apparently zero thought of putting out a quality product this season. And there's no good reason for it.
I do like what Hextall has done with draft picks. But it sucks that the most exciting time of year is the lead up to the draft. Only to keep saying, "boy, in five years!"
I've been uncharacteristically calling for patience the last couple of years. Those who have been around for awhile--especially those from the silly.com days--know how out of character that really it. But the patience has waned. At this point, supplement through trade. Move out "leadership" that isn't leading.
Do SOMETHING other than punish kids you yourself have damaged only to bring up other soon to be damaged kids. Wake the hell up and get the lumina out of neutral and go get us some damn halibut!
Gary Bettman who is the commissioner of the National Hockey League (NHL) was brought in 30 years ago with one agenda, and that was to grow the game of hockey in the USA. In Canada the game of hockey is like a religion, with winters lasting 6 months all there is, is hockey. Fans are passionate and it's the number one sport. Football and baseball come second and third. Unfortunately for fans in Canada, no Canadian NHL team has won the Stanley Cup for 25 years since the Montreal Canadians have won.
This thesis will explain why no Canadian team will win the Stanley Cup until at least 2050.
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