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  2. I dont know about any teams salary cap situation but would a team like Edmonton want a couple of guys like Voracek and Ghost?
  3. Yeah, last night was about fatigue. It was noticeable with a lot of players. And yeah, much heavier schedule in the NHL vs. college. That's not going to be helped by going to the AHL.
  4. I think alot of it could have something to do with fatigue I mean he went from college to the NHL so he isn't use to playing 3 games in four nights in the best league in the world. But I agree too I'm not seeing any glaring deficit in his skating but then again I too am not a skating expert by any means but i did stay at a Holiday Inn once... And I think the whole team seemed to have heavy legs in the last half of that game.
  5. He's the perfect candidate for Seattle. Agree with your whole post. It won't be long before someone is coming up to replace him (next year or year following) so let him be exposed to the Seattle Dark Roast.
  6. Agree about Jake (who I simply cannot stand). The only time he was noticeable was in a bad way. Simply horrible.
  7. Not likely to happen, but possible. I say that mostly because he's now been up over ten games and is burning his first year. The other reason is because I strongly disagree about the skating.
  8. No way, as a first season coach, i trade two pr3ven assests without getting back player(s) that will help the team immediately
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  10. Maybe not coincidentally, that's what he puts in the sheep's feed.
  11. You are just trying to draw the attention of you know who and Pelle jokes....he'll be here soon...I'll give you a hint it rhymes with codeine...
  12. There are a few team that can afford them. No one said trade them in a salary dump where the Flyers get just picks and the other takes on 13 million in salary. I'm talking reality not fantasy on the PS4. I'm not going to waste a bunch of time coming up with the scenario that might work for a bunch of arm chair GMs here to shoot back "blah blah blah blah that won't work cause blah blah blah..." ...nope not going to waste the time but it can be done. Chuckles has to make up his mind to do it. Till then we'll just speculate away. Both those guys have value they just might need a wake up JVR like trade to wake them up. LA was having some issues with guys they need to sign or move explore that some...
  13. Wondering who the heck is on the Finnish National Team at this point of the season? Should probably have been left in Finland rather than brought over to play in the A - at least for a year or two. (As I think you noted earlier in the thread). They're almost certainly not getting the value that they put into the draft pick in return for him.
  14. Today, Nov. 11, 2019 is the 34th anniversary of Pelle Lindbergh's death. I'll never forget the breaking news.
  15. If you look at the game against Chicago last night, most of those goals against Hutchison he had no chance on. Chicago forwards were getting clean one-timers, were able to skate right into the slot untouched, etc... Hutchison becomes the latest Leafs goalie to be ruined in Toronto. I guess since you can't fire the six guys in front of him, you have to fire the goalie. Codi Cedi (lost coverage), Jake Muzzin (horrible turnover). Spezza's line seemed to be on the ice for every Chicago goal. The Leafs stars showed up offensively. Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, all contributing. Their talent is being wasted on this pretender of a team.
  16. Update on Pulju. He just played three games with the Finnish National Team, in the first line with lots of TOI and PP time. One assist. After the games he stated that he'd spend this season in Finland. He still needs a lot of development to make it in the NHL. We'll see how it goes for him, come spring and the IIHF championships. Right now it might be difficult to trade him.
  17. I recall that. I don't see why they don't give it a try. Who knows what happens, maybe he gets going somehow.
  18. Games Played on 11/10/19 Dominic Toninato vs Gregg McKegg Winner ?
  19. Mantha scores late, Red Wings beat Golden Knights 3-2 Anthony Mantha takes the pass off of the wall and scores with under one minute to play to propel the Red Wings to a 3-2 win over the Golden Knights. Game # 19 2 3 By Associated Press Updated: 16 hours ago DETROIT -- Anthony Mantha did not play a great game. He did make the big play. Mantha scored with 30.9 seconds left to give the Detroit Red Wings a 3-2 comeback victory over the Vegas Golden Knights on Sunday night. He had a few short shifts in the second half of the third period. "I don't think I played the best game of the season but got out there and got the game winner," Mantha said. "My team gets the two points and that's what matters." Mantha broke in alone off the right wing after taking a pass off the boards from Robby Fabbri, then beat goalie Malcolm Subban with a wrist shot from the right circle. Mantha has 11 goals this season. "I mean my passing was not on point today," he said. "So, I was shooting that 100 percent and just found the outside post and in." Andreas Athanasiou and defenseman Madison Bowey also scored and Jonathan Bernier made 17 saves to help the Red Wings win their second straight game. Jonathan Marchessault and Max Pacioretty scored for Vegas and Subban stopped 16 shots. The Golden Knights are 1-2-3 in their last six. "We played 55 great minutes of hockey and then fell asleep for the last five," Golden Knights coach Gerard Galant said. "Even before they scored, they had at least three good chances that we had just given them." Bowey tied it at 2 with 9:03 left in the third period, scoring from the inside portion of the right circle while being hauled down by William Carrier. It was Bowey's first goal of the season. Pacioretty gave Vegas a 2-1 lead 9:04 into the second period with a wrist shot from the top of the right circle. It was his sixth goal. It was one of only five total shots in a close-checking middle period. Vegas had three and the Red Wings two. Marchessault gave the Golden Knights a 1-0 lead with 3:33 left in the first period. He converted Reilly Smith's cross-ice pass on a 2-on-1 rush. It was Marchessault's fourth goal. Athanasiou tied it with a power-play goal with 45 seconds left in the opening period. He scored on a one-time shot from the right circle. It was his second goal.
  20. Farabee scores in shootout, Flyers beat Bruins 3-2 Game # 17 2 3 SO By Associated Press Updated: 13 hours ago BOSTON -- Joel Farabee and Carter Hart came through to help the Philadelphia Flyers pull out another late win. Farabee scored the lone shootout goal and Hart made some timely saves down the stretch to fend off a Boston Bruins comeback in Philadelphia's 3-2 win. The Flyers won their season-high fourth straight game while going beyond regulation for the fifth time in six games, capping a perfect stretch of four games in six days. "We've had a lot of hockey in a short amount of time, and we're extending that time of play by going into extra time," said Hart, who made 26 saves. "But you know what, we're just finding ways to get the job done." Travis Konecny had a goal and an assist, and Phillipe Myers also scored in regulation for the Flyers. Farabee, who played at nearby Boston University, beat Jaroslav Halak high glove-side on the Flyers' first shootout attempt. Hart stopped all three tries by the Bruins, poke-checking away David Pastrnak's attempt to seal the win. "Carter made some good saves at the beginning, but he wasn't really tested," Flyers coach Alain Vigneault said. "In the third (and after) he was. We needed some saves. We got some huge saves, and we were able to get in done in the shootout." Danton Heinen and Brad Marchand each had a goal and Halak stopped 27 shots for the Bruins, who lost their season-high third straight (0-2-1) after a six-game win streak. Pastrnak, the NHL's leading scorer with 15 goals and 30 points, was held scoreless for a second straight game. "We are a great team and we want to show it every night, but at the same time the other team is preparing (for) us and they want to come up big," Pastrnak said. "We (need to) find a way to prove it every night." Konecny helped give the Flyers a 2-0 lead after one period. Sean Couturier's initial right-circle offering was stopped by Halak, but the puck bounced off Oskar Lindblom's skate near the crease right to a charging Konecny for the goal with 6:10 remaining. Konecny's cross-ice pass just over four minute later set up Myers' right-circle wrist shot to make it 2-0. Philadelphia outshot Boston 14-5 in the opening period on the second night of a back-to-back after Saturday's win over the Maple Leafs. "As a road team that's come in, played a little bit lately, they all of a sudden find energy because of that. That's my explanation of the start," Bruins coach Bruce Cassidy said. "We need to correct it in a hurry, but the good news is we did find our game eventually, and we can build off that." Boston's Par Lindholm appeared to poke in a rebound after a scramble in front of the Flyers' net early in the second, but play had already been whistled dead. An official review upheld the call on the ice. Following a scoreless second, Heinen's spinning forehand shot in front of the net cut the Bruins' deficit to 2-1 at 5:59 of the third. Marchand beat Hart glove-side on a wrister from the left circle to tie it with 7:38 left. Pastrnak drew a penalty shot after Ivan Provorov's slash with 4:56 left. Hart stymied Pastrnak with a stick save to his left after Pastrnak's slow approach and wrist shot.
  21. Has the team playing Hockey. not perfect but playing good. Thoughts .
  22. Fans in Toronto have a fairly long leash actually, mostly due to fan apathy I think. If you look at players who got booed out of Toronto, they had to significantly under-perform for a tremendous length of time before fans finally turned on them. If any of those same players had played in a town like Philly or Boston and done the same, they would have been run out of town way sooner. My two cents. In recent years, the only players to be booed out of town were Jonathan Bernier and Phil Kessel. What did they do? Well, Bernier was statistically the worst goalie in the NHL during his time in Toronto and was eventually demoted to the minors. Kessel was a moody, strange, distant winger who was a locker room cancer, who refused to learn any kind of defensive game, and who initiated the "stick gate" incident where the players didn't salute the fans after a game. He was Toronto's highest paid player and he played like the 5th best player on any other NHL team during his time here.
  23. I'm with you on the idea of moving Ghost for a more defensive kind of dman (not exactly a very high bar in terms of comparisons). This would have to be a team that is A) in the hunt for a playoff spot, B) in major need of a PP QB, and C) has a surplus in more rounded, defensively sound dmen. PP weakness is the easiest to look at. The bottom ten in terms of PP success right now: OTT, ANA, LAK, PIT (!!), DAL, NJD, CBJ, CHI, DET, ARI And there's the problem. Virtually all of those teams are not realistic bets to make the playoffs. They're bottom dwellers all around for very good reasons. The only notable exception here is the Pens, which obviously is unlikely to happen for all of a million reasons. So the likelihood of a team gambling on Ghost and offering back a more rounded guy seems unlikely to me at this point.
  24. There isn't a single team in the league who can afford Ghost and Jake. Honestly, The idea of trading either one of them before bringing up Frost and benching Braun is short sighted insanity to me.
  25. Sanheim is going. He's even staying on his feet. That's all he really needed to do differently. He doesn't need to be scoring to be helping the team win and when he stays on his skates, he does just that. He did some fantastic stuff last night... just didn't result in a point. I don't think Ghost gets shopped around. At most, I think he just won't be protected in the Seattle draft. What? you say, Give him up for nothing?!?! What are they going to get for him that they need? The thing this team needs most is a 3C and they have one crushing it in LHV and they're just refusing to bring him up. Alternatively, they could have claimed Spezza off waivers for a mere 700k which also could have fixed the problem. I'd consider sending him to the west coast for a decent enough draft pick, but I wouldn't necessarily think we're getting a first for him. In the meantime, with Morin done for the year again, what are they going to do? replace him with Hagg? The larger issue IMHO is his usual partner (and someone who could theoretically be replaced with Hagg), Braun. Seems like he's always the one on the ice and the one directly missing a clear or coverage when a back breaking or game tying goal gets scored. I'd like to see Braun sit for a few games. Maybe platoon with Hagg more. Braun's 32, which isn't old by any stretch but when they have 4 games in 6 nights and he's struggling in the first 2, maybe he doesn't need to play BOTH the back to back games? They're winning, so it's hard to complain too much, but they're just barely winning (albeit against VERY good teams that are -or at least were- above them in the standings).
  26. If we trade Ghosr this year ot would have to be for an equaly talented young defenseman who is a top notch defender. Basically an offensive dman for a defensive one. For example ..Ghost for Parayko or someone like that. We can gamble by holding on to Ghost and hope he has a huge second half and move him in the offseason for a big return or if he flops again this year his value suffers even more and we get less. Or trade him now if management feels he is not gonna bounce back.
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