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  2. It still comes down to 2 players to protect 1. If that was the price, I would have been looking to keep Haula because the wild has always been short at center.
  3. I think it was a bird in hand scenario. Tuch was still just a prospect. Contrary to Wild organization propaganda, the Wild was desperately thin on D. There were only four decent Dmen, the Wild couldn't afford to lose any of the four. So they sacrificed the prospect, which in retrospect was a BIG mistake. If the Wild had ranked their Dmen, IMO Dumba would have ranked ahead of Brodin. I agree with KA, I would have just bit the bullet and sacrificed Brodin. You have to remember, the Wild had a pretty good roster at the time and aspirations of contending. Tuch was a future player, Brodin and Dumba were key pieces. They hadn't given up on Coyle, Zucker or Nino yet. Again, Fletcher did not have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. IMO it's obvious sacrificing Tuch was a huge mistake, but they had Greenway looking like he'd fill the big, strong Forward role.
  4. That was my point! Idiot flefcher thought so much of Dumba that he was willing to give up 2 players rather than put Dumba on the protected list.
  5. Haula wasn't traded for anything. The price to protect other Wild players was Tuch. Haula was going to be gone regardless. Tuch was the value, Haula was essentially a throw in.
  6. If you say so, I believe you. I just don't remember it. But lots of people were desperate to protect Brodin.
  7. I would upgrade that defense in the off-season, and add more toughness and skill to that unit. No way I would fire Babcock at this point. It is no shame to lose to Boston.
  8. Here is the protected list Fletcher submitted: Forwards: Charlie Coyle, Mikael Granlund, Mikko Koivu, Nino Niederreiter, Zach Parise, Jason Pominville, Jason Zucker Defensemen: Jonas Brodin, Jared Spurgeon, Ryan Suter Goaltenders: Devan Dubnyk AVAILABLE PLAYERS Forwards: Brady Brassart, Patrick Cannone, Ryan Carter, Kurtis Gabriel, Martin Hanzal, Erik Haula, Zack Mitchell, Jordan Schroeder, Eric Staal, Chris Stewart, Ryan White. Defensemen: Victor Bartley, Matt Dumba, Christian Folin, Guillaume Gelinas, Alexander Gudbranson, Gustav Olofsson, Nate Prosser, Marco Scandella, Mike Weber. Goaltenders: Johan Gustafsson, Darcy Kuemper, Alex Stalock. He could have protected Dumba instead of Brodin and NOT given up Tuch. Tuch was not eligible for selection since he was only a first year professional. He was traded to Vegas so Vegas would not select Dumba. I would have protected Dumba, exposed Brodin, and not traded Tuch. Without any 20/20 hindsight.
  9. Yesterday
  10. I agree with what you said, but at some point failure can no longer be acceptable, regardless of whether it's first or second round. We can't keep excusing annual failures to roughly equally matched teams. At some point you just have to break through and make it work. If everyone else can do it, the Leafs can do it. No more excuses for this Leafs team. Boston is better than the Leafs every year because Boston fans demand better, and they get it. It's time Toronto fans expected more out of their sports teams than mediocrity. This mentality of just being slightly over .500 and making the playoffs being "good enough" has to stop. This team needs to be great for a change. There are no more excuses for this team. The expectation is Stanley Cup or bust.
  11. Someone needs to make a meme of the Leafs vs Bruins game 7 with that episode of Star Trek TNG where the crew is caught in a time loop that keeps repeating over and over again.
  12. That doesn't rhyme! Try harder next time!
  13. Defense don't hurt either... Can't score without the puck.
  14. I kinda forget what it's like to win a playoff round.. I know it hasn't been THAT long but. I gotta short term memory.. LoL
  15. And they'll need better mentors than Mac and the cheese heads back there now or you can expect the same from the D.....
  16. Dmen that don't get mesmerized by the Puck and watch it , keep watching it til it ends up behind our prodigal goalie after he stops the first two or three shots in a row on him..... Imo, a few forward moves maybe a change or two in personnel but definitely need to address the defense, these newbies haven't proven themselves yet... (Imo)
  17. Flyers may have made the POs this year if they had competent goaltending for the entire year. So, assuming they get said goaltending next year, adding AV behind the bench should absolutely result in PO spot. The question is whether they can win a round or two. I don't think better goaltending and coaching is enough to accomplish that. The roster needs improvement. That's where Fletcher really needs to earn his money this offseason.
  18. It was a moot point who was protected. The deal had been made.
  19. And of course an NHL GM is working in real time, without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. Be easy to make decisions with a clear view of the future.
  20. I don't think the decision was Haula's, it was pretty clear the Wild didn't want to re-sign him. I believe Haula was RFA with arbitration rights and he was going to get decent money, more than the Wild was willing to pay. What it really turned into was Tuch instead of Brodin, Zucker, Nino, or Coyle. In 20/20 hindsight, seeing that Tuch has met his top end potential it was a huge mistake.
  21. This topic has gone off the rails. By the way go Iowa Wild.
  22. Agreed for the most part. Pens need to get more defensive minded. Then a couple of set plays involving Crosby other than from the right face off dot. Same with Malkin. It seem to me the Islanders knew what the Pens were going to do before the Pens were able to set-up! Coaches have to do better in making in game adjustments.
  23. ...and sung in sports stadiums/arenas. Granted, inappropriate language is edited out. Then again, Kate Smith's "God Bless America" got the axe for something else she sang, too.
  24. We = society. Not everyone of course. There are plenty of people (just look at the comments in this thread) who disagree on various levels with what the Flyers did, why they did it, etc. Unfortunately there is a significant portion of the populous who clamor for the drastic actions that the Flyers (and Yankees) took in this situation and many others like it. I don't think "everyone" gets offended too easily. I do think too many get offended too easily.
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