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  2. Kind of one of those what if he could have signed Parise forcing the Wild to have to rebuild and form a team correctly. Too bad. But Lamoreillos resume is quite a read. What a adventure he has had in his life!
  3. Lou Lamoreillo loves college guys. He was a player, captain then coach and athletic director at Providence College and commissioner of Hockey East before becoming president of the New Jersey Devils. A lot of people thought he reached when he took Parise 13th overall out of North Dakota. He fought hard to extend Parise before the free agent formed a pact with Wisconsin buddy Suter and the pair selected Minnesota. Lamoreillo has had a remarkable career. The guy assembled a number of USA hockey and Olympic teams and had a minor league baseball player manager career before returning to his alma mater to coach hockey. Guy is 77 years old.
  4. Does anyone think that The Pens should have tried for a goalie maybe see if there are any on waivers because I am not sure of Murray's skills anymore, he hasn't been the same sine the Cup win imho. . . . . . .
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  6. Normally I would agree but here's why I think he is here for the money only. Yes he could have went elsewhere and maybe made more on his contract but here in Minnesota he has his roots and knows how so many people here have the "one of us" mentality. So he makes a little less on a contract but cashes in on merchandise with his name as you knows the drones will buy it up and boy have them. There is a good chance he wouldn't have sold what he sold on another team as his production wouldn't be enough to warrant fans to swoop up his stuff. Plus being able to have dinners and hang out with the owner isn't a bad perk here when it wouldn't have happened elsewhere. Now his salary starts decreasing next season and continues to drop big amounts after that and now all of a sudden sees the team isn't going to win a Cup. He had to have seen this years ago. I don't like it and smell some chit if he tries to say otherwise. Normally I agree with you completely @CreaseAndAssist but I have to disagree with you on this. But I do fear a trade to get him or Suter out of here. The Cap Recapture could really cripple the Wild and don't think clearing them off of the Wild is the best idea either. Personally I rather seem them rot and not get a Cup here as they made the franchise into a joke that it is. They don't deserve to go elsewhere to try and win a cup. As much as this pains me as a fan Leipold doesn't deserve to win a Cup to allow a chit show 3 ring circus happen. I do hate the "fans" who buy into the "one of us" and continue to pump money into a mediocre product at best. I just believe in my heart Parise would have liked to win here but it was more important to cash those checks. Now the checks are going to be a lot less, he has made his money and wants to head out and win elsewhere.
  7. I don't care really where they play as long as they get the win and preferably in regulation and get 4 in a row. Do not sleep on these spoiler Sharks....go out get a lead and don't let your foot off the pedal keep it on their throat. They may not be done climbing in the standings...3 points from the second spot in the Metro is right there for the taking. Go get it!!!!!!
  8. Boy can he he has a nasty accurate wrist shot... ...man that thing is moving!
  9. I'd kinda prefer to put Laughton with the new guy and I simply wouldn't insert them both into the lineup for the first time together. That said, there are no easier games for a while so... I just really hope they plan to Bring back Farabee soon. Grant is a good thing at C to help spell Giroux and Coots on the PK and some tougher D zone starts. And I do agree that Farabee responds to a rest well and comes back strong as hell... but I want to see them take advantage of that and bring him back so we can see that strong play again.
  10. Gotta win this one. The new guys stepping in has me worried, but I guess against the Sharks is as good a time as any. The Flyers have another rough stretch coming up. Home and Home against the Rangers who are making a huge push and are a mere 6 points out of the 8 spot. They have two fluke injuries due to a car accident including the goalie who's been so hot, so maybe that'll help but no matter what the Flyers can't sleep on them. Then it's the caps, canes, sabres, bruins and lightning. They get a slightly less elite team in the Wild, but it goes back to bat **** crazy for a while after that. If they hold their position, they're certainly not going to get flat or bored going into the playoffs.
  11. Some good news, Young Mr. Boldy has 10 points in his last 5 games. I wish I knew what the line pairings were in College and Minor hockey. Does anyone have a resource for that kind of thing?
  12. Screw that noise. I should be coach. I would put NAK on the second. He can at least get the puck on net I love that guy
  13. Columbus should get the win just because they have a goaltender named Elvis. Anyways, it's Mardi Gras and I have better things to do than watch the NHL's version of Tuna Hot Dish take on a decimated Blue Jackets team...Laissez les bons temps rouler!
  14. Parise wasn't asked to waive it. Parise initiated it. He went to Fenton in the summer of 2019 and told Fenton if he could find the right match for him to go to a Cup contender, he'd waive his NMC for a chance to play for the Cup. And it was with the Islanders, but Fenton didn't want to take back the Ladd contract, so that deal never materialized. And there were no rumors of this deal at all last summer, so you know Fenton and Lamoriello were very tight lipped about it. Maybe the same thing happened with Suter. He was approached and said "No thanks" and that was the end of it. Guerin's not going to blab everything to the press...
  15. My guess is that Guerin recognises the Wild's problems, and has chosen the path of least resistance from Leipold. First Zucker who was already ok'd to go in the Fenton era, then Boudreau who was going to go anyways, then Koivu, who is gone pretty soon as well, no matter what. Then we have Parise and Suter left. People in this forum have speculated that Parise might be willing to go. Guerin draw the same conclusion. The toughest nut to crack is Suter. He's got the worst character of the trio, and he's the owner's pet. I'm thinking Guerin is getting the field ready to try to get rid of Suter as well. It ain't necessarily gonna be easy, or even possible.
  16. Maybe AV wants to spread the scoring out. You have a shooter on each line. Theoretically.
  17. So, was Suter not asked to waive his NMC/NTC because the Wild think he is worth retaining? Or, is it because he has little value (no teams inquiring about him), or the Wild know he has no interest in chasing a S.C.? It would be interesting to know, since their was mention of moving both Koivu and Parise but not Suter. Either way, the days of anyone seeing 9, 11, and 20 as anything more than boat anchors upon this franchise has to be here now -even to the most casual fan. I join EJ in hoping the end is painful for them - I just wish it wasn’t on the Wild ‘clogging up the works’ for the future.
  18. Not a fan of Laughton on the 2nd line... but not a fan of Raffl or Grant up there either. JVR makes the most sense, but I seem to remember he and Hayes not really meshing.
  19. would assume JVR on the 2nd line, Laughton on the 3rd. Although JVR doesn't deserve 2nd line minutes at the moment.
  20. Maybe Parise waiving his NMC will finally make Fan Boy #1 wake up and realize this team is mediocre at best and to let Guerin tear it down (as much as he can...) And I wonder how the rest of the team feels now that Parise basically told them "I want to play for a Cup Contender, and you guys ain't it" by asking to be moved...
  21. 28-14-9321-13-1125-38-1812-44-62 That makes the most sense to me. Tough team down the middle now.
  22. Farabee needed to go back 2-3 months ago honestly but there wasn't any better options available. He will lick his wounds and be ready for a call up in the playoffs or ready next fall. Same for Frost. Bunnaman played fine and will one day be a good 4th line player for the Flyers. But adding two guys that are currently better than Farabee/Bunnaman are NOW, means the Flyers are that much better and hard to play against. While the kids get more time (needed time) to develop. Do these guys get to play in the AHL playoffs should phantoms make it miraculously? I thought I saw the cutoff was around this time.
  23. Ya, it was also the era where TO never got over the hump, traded away draft choices constantly looking for the fading star that was more fading than star. In '67 TO won with an old lineup but that lineup was basically comprised of career Leafs and we have a chance to see that again but maybe this time the cast might be younger. I didn't expect TO would be even able to make the playoffs this year, too much money in too few hands but I expect as the Cap rises TO will be able to add quality depth and truly contend.
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    • Okay, after listening to feedback (I do occasionally listen lol) I took a second crack at this stat.... and here's what I came up with: 
       

       
      To me, what was missing previously was a way to get defensive scores back UP again through continued playing time, so now it's here. It's like a "counter-balance" to allow defensive scores to rise. 
       
      With this recent improvement, there was no longer a need to add 100 to try and pretty up the scores. I left them as is and they fluctuate between positive and negative values, just like regular +/-..... but this is NO +/- !!!  This is much closer (I hope) to what people have been looking for. It is quite literally DEFENCE..... just defence and nothing else. 
       
      Now, I know what people are going to say: "But guys are still being punished for offence..."  (That comment makes me cringe.) No player is ever technically "punished" for offence. They're just not able to boost their DEFENCE rating by scoring points. That's it. If you're the worst defensive player in the league, you can't score 100 goals, boost your stat, and then turn around and claim a Selke trophy. This isn't +/-. Just like you can't erase ERRORS in baseball by hitting more home runs. It doesn't make sense. If you commit 50 errors in baseball, the only way you can get better is to stop making errors... and if you play long enough error-free, you will eventually raise your fielding percentage to a respectable level. But the bottom line is that you can't hit your way out of bad fielding stats.
       
      (Whew!)
       
      Okay, so how does this work now? It starts with the Minus stat (as described previously) but now I take TOI (Time On Ice in minutes) and divide it by 60. That value gets added to the score. So for every game you play without committing a "-", your defence score will go up. Notice that this accomplishes a few things: It sort of considers "quality of opposition" into the stat (because your best players play the most) but it also rewards the players who contribute the most to your team. 
       
      I still don't know if I have anything viable here, but it gives me a good feeling this time around.   
       
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    • Cale Makar's Assault On The Record Book
      OK....some crazy stuff going on in Ave's land! The all time record for a rookie defensemen is 76 by the great Larry Murphy. Even Ray Bourque had under 70...he had 4th best with 65 rookie pts. Makar is on pace for 93. Staggering. 
        The scary part is he is doing this with Rantanen and Landeskog both out with serious injuries. Cales hockey sense is outrageous for a rookie...howitzer of a shot...wicked moves, agile and smart. He reminds me of Bourque as a rookie. He has 100 pt potential...as silly as that sounds in this day and age. 
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    • Vladimir Tarasenko Out 5 Months
      The defending Stanley Cup champion St Louis Blues have just received a dose of bad news.  Teresenko, the superstar that helped the Blues hoist their first Cup, is now to be lost for 5 months due to shoulder surgery.  If they can survive without him and still make the playoffs, it would seem he would return for that.  I believe they are deep enough to do it. 
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    • It's Demko time!!
      Small deal between the Canucks and the Senators today with possible large implications for both.
       
      Vancouver gets: Taylor Pyatt, a 13th forward not much of a player. McKenna, an AHL goalie pressed into duty because of injuries to the Ottawa net and a 6th round pick.
       
      Ottawa gets Anders Nilsson who in two years as a backup in Vancouver went 10-27 and Darren Archibald who has been a meh prospect forever now and who looks like he is just a body to even out the players involved.
       
       A bunch of hot garbage in other words but it may be a sign of things to come for both.
       
        First Ottawa seems almost certain to trade Craig Anderson at some point now and ride out the season with Nilsson in net. A contender wanting a veteran goalie will take a shot at him. 
        Vancouver likely will ship McKenna to the AHL and call up top prospect Thatcher Demko to share the net at the least and possibly become the primary starter after two very successful seasons with Utica in the AHL. Demko is a California boy, a big surfer looking dude who Benning has shown surprising patience with as he developed. Moving Nilsson clears the way for him to get his shot probably moving Markstrom to the backup role for the remaining of the season to see what Demko can do.
       
        So a trade of junk for junk has implication for an aging brittle goalie and for a kid chomping at the bit wanting a shot.
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    • Post in Paul Fenton has been fired as GM after just one season.
      It's possible. But I think right now your biggest issue is timing. The Wild fired Fenton at a time is year where the replacement pool is such that if the candidate were any good, he'd already be working. 
       
      Leipold should get a lot of "credit" for badly bungling this situation (and it's on him if what you describe is accurate, and I think it is up an extent).  His statements indicate this started at exit interviews. 
       
      First of all, if you did any credible due diligence, you knew this before. But make a decision when you did realize it.  You don't go to the end of July, in hockey's no man's land (we'll call it "Miami," for short) and then make this move. 
       
      Leipold is nearly single-handedly destroying his own franchise. 
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    • To answer your question, what makes a good NHL GM?
       
      You noted player personnel wins and losses... But didn't cover anything else. Understandably, I get it, but IMO there's a ton more behind being a good GM.
       
      Looking at it from a fan perspective player personnel is about the only thing one could care about. But from an operations standpoint, or from an owners standpoint, generating $$ is all they ever put much emphasis on. Business, or rather being a successful business equals follow the money.
       
      Something I brought up several years ago was the Wild, under Doug Risenbrough, were an economically successful team. The team never spent to the Cap but they had sellout after sellout. Contrary to some the previous ownership claimed they were losing money. Where have we heard that with the Minnesota North Stars? Hence, they left for Dallas and won a Stanley Cup, 2 Conference Titles, 2 Presidents Trophies and 8 Division Titles... They're doing well generating revenue. They were bought for $84 million in 1995 and are now valued at $525 million. The Dallas Stars are a prime example of spending more (wisely) can create residual earnings. Which is something the Minnesota North Stars never figured out.
       
      Insert the Minnesota Wild. So under Robert Naegele, Jr., and GM Doug Risenbrough, as mentioned they ran a tight ship on spending. Wild fans here viewed them as cheap. The results as some pride themselves as describing, they're a successful team because they've had so many sellouts in a less than desirable "Hockey Market" because everyone here keeps reminding everyone (nationally) that Minnesota isn't a very good hockey market. (That's something I totally disagree with.) Minnesota probably has more hockey pucks and hockey arena's per capita than any other state or Canadian Providence... To match it's 'Land of 10,000 Lakes' boast.
       
      Granted, it's a bit off-topic talking about Minnesota's hockey market, but in the grand scheme of things no one can match Minnesota's superior high school hockey programs or the number of successful college hockey programs... Fans following them could have gone to more North Stars games, or more Wild games... But why if neither of those teams have anything to show for their efforts except being on the losing end of highlight reels (nationwide)?
       
      Okay, back on topic now that I've eliminated any just cause that Minnesota can't be a major hockey market.
       
      Read more ... https://www.hockeyforums.net/topic/71822-what-makes-a-good-nhl-gm/?do=findComment&comment=390931
       

       
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    • The more I'm thinking about this the more I'm coming to the conclusion it's not simply the coach but the result of the coach trying to compensate for the goaltending -- which is ultimately on Hextall. 
       
      The centers ARE a mess. And so is Ghost. Why? Because the centers are not staying low in the offensive zone and--Patrick and Coots in particular--not mucking it up in the slot to cheat back to hedge against being caught. 
       
      Ghost is doing less going low or pinching much for the same reason.  It's possible they're doing this on their own. Whether deliberate or not, it's a natural response to the knowledge that any mistake, any odd man or often even man rush the other way will end up past the incompetent sieves in our net. 
       
      It's just as likely that this is per coach directive much for the same reason. 
       
      The question remains--bluntly--how does a competent GM look at his goaltending this past summer and not move to fix this while leaving $10M in cap space on the table? 
       
      How does that same competent GM go through the summer knowing he doesn't have a 3C  and not move to correct that in any sober way? Again, with the $10M sitting there. 
       
      I know he doesn't want a contract that blocks kids and doesn't want to move said kids for it, but that effectively and explicitly tosses this season away. 
       
      Meanwhile, the tickets are still full price. 
       
      You see the results in the stands during the game. The last game, the stands had all the energy of a wake.  
       
      There was apparently zero thought of putting out a quality product this season. And there's no good reason for it. 
       
      I do like what Hextall has done with draft picks.  But it sucks that the most exciting time of year is the lead up to the draft.  Only to keep saying, "boy, in five years!" 
       
      I've been uncharacteristically calling for patience the last couple of years. Those who have been around for awhile--especially those from the silly.com days--know how out of character that really it.  But the patience has waned.   At this point, supplement through trade. Move out "leadership" that isn't leading. 
       
      Do SOMETHING other than punish kids you yourself have damaged only to bring up other soon to be damaged kids.  Wake the hell up and get the lumina out of neutral and go get us some damn halibut! 
       
      We're starving! 
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    • Why no Canadian NHL team will win the cup
      Gary Bettman who is the commissioner of the National Hockey League (NHL) was brought in 30 years ago with one agenda, and that was to grow the game of hockey in the USA.  In Canada the game of hockey is like a religion, with winters lasting 6 months all there is, is hockey.  Fans are passionate and it's the number one sport.  Football and baseball come second and third.  Unfortunately for fans in Canada, no Canadian NHL team has won the Stanley Cup for 25 years since the Montreal Canadians have won.

       

      This thesis will explain why no Canadian team will win the Stanley Cup until at least 2050.

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