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  1. 12 points
  2. 11 points
    I'm with @brelic about the inconsistency. But I also have a problem with the suspension. In fact, I had a problem with the major penalty. It was late. Yes. It was interference. Yes. It was not charging, and it was NOT a head shot. I don't think he even got the head on the follow-through. I'm not going to sit here and say stuff like "Perrault needs to look where he's going." But it's a crap overkill on the penalties on this. There is absolutely no good reason whatsoever for it. Tell me how this hit was different from the hit on Konecny. Allowing for a moment that Borowiecki didn't make initial contact with TK's head. He hit him late. I'd also argue that the initial point of contact was the head. So, late hit on the Flyer with the puck not there. Head is initial point of contact. Flyer has concussion. Player has twice been suspended for dangerous hits to the head: Not even a god damned 2 minute minor. No comment from the league, let alone a suspension. Flyer makes late hit on a player and the puck is not there. Head is NOT the initial point of contact and might never have been hit at all. Perrault gets a concssion. Flyer has never been suspended or even accused of a dirty hit previously. 2 min. 5 min. Game Misconduct. 3-game suspension. Someone attempt to argue with me with a straight face and tell me this league isn't utter bull####.
  3. 10 points
    The team is finally playing well! Yea!! But has anyone noticed watching on TV that a lot of people are coming dressed as grey seats to the Flyers games? It first struck me at some of the games I have attended and then I noticed more and more people writing about it. Anthony SanFilippo had a nice piece about it on Crossing Broad which makes for interesting reading. [Hidden Content] In addition I wanted to share a few points from a recent Season Ticket holder focus group that I attended a couple of weekends ago.... They invited a group of 30 of us to come down early before the Flames game a couple of weekends ago to speak with the assitant GM Brent Flahr and Chief Business Officer Mike Shane. Surprisingly there were almost no questions for Flahr about players but when it came to the business side, the pitchforks and torches were out in a major way! People came armed with 3 page lists of things they were pissed about. I'll get to those points in a minute. Before I do I wanted to give you some background on Mike Shane (37 years old). Like the president of Business operations Valerie Camillo he comes from the Washington Nationals. He starting out trying to pander to us telling us that he joined the team in April and how the city and his neighbors have embraced him and in 7 short months he now fully gets Philly and our passion and that we are 1000X more knowledgeable than the rubes down in DC. He said he loves the Flyers "culture" and the feeling of "family" that comes with this organization and basically acted as if he has been there his whole life. He said he has plans to do these focus groups on a regular basis. It was very rah rah rah go team, yea Fletcher, yea AV until the dialogue started... Firstly there was a complaint about the vast turnover of season ticket holder reps and how nobody contacted us to tell us that there was a change and how nobody reached out to us early in the season. (I didn't personally have this issue with my rep but the person who coordinates the high 5 program where my kids get to go on the ice during the national anthem left and nobody told me and as of now they wont be enjoying that benefit so I could relate. Shane apologized and said that they have to be better with the communication (duh!). Then the fireworks really started when people began questioning the ticket pricing scheme and how they decided to announce that they were hiking prices on us a week before we were supposed to renew. Shane said again, yeah we needed to do a better job with that communication thing again but our prices are definitely market value and right in the meaty part of the league curve. That sent people off the rails as they said they did their own research and that is simply not true and we are getting majorly gouged. One guy went as far as to stand up and say "Thats F*****g B******t! where are you getting these numbers and metrics? We want to see them". Shane then began tap dancing on that and we never got a clear answer. There was then a cacophony of voices about how they were so wrong on price point and that we as STH are taking in the shorts on trying to resell our tickets especially with Stubhub in the mix. People complained that because of the massive markdowns on stubhub we the STHs were looking like money grubbers to the public because we just wanted to get face value back. Shane said that was because last year the Flyers used to flood the market with unsold tickets and brokers would put them on stubhub for as low as $5. He said they are not doing that anymore and that is why there are so many empty seats. There was also the issue of the variable pricing scheme where they value each game differently and we don't know what the value of our tickets are (it is not printed on our tickets...you have to find this obscure chart that they have) making it hard to value in a sale. This scheme was also announced 1 week before we had to decide whether or not to renew, along with the switch to all electronic tickets. (That part doesn't bother me but for a lot it was a big issue). I could go on and on with the pricing and believe me they did and F bombs flew in that room over it but there were other things as well.... The in game (bass heavy) experience was also criticized heavily. Many said that since Ed Snider died it seems that the team culture died with him. One guy put it this way "Comcast doesn't give 2 s**ts about us". Shane vehemently denied that and said its not that they don't care, it is just they don't understand all of the issues and how to deal with them (very comforting to know that). Everyone told him loud and clear that we don't want an "experience" we want to see good hockey. We feel like you are trying to distract us with the lights and the loud music and the renovations and Gritty. Some even called for the axing of Gritty and accused them of trying to make him the face of the franchise. Shane shot back "That will never happen, not on my watch..Gritty will never be the face of the franchise!" Several people then chimed in that they have been to other arenas and that that fans and staff at those places were so much nicer than anyone in Philly and that the arenas and in game experience there seem so much more warm and welcoming. Curiously they noted that fans of other teams bought them beers while our fans did the a*****e chant to everyone. (I guess I have been going to the wrong places as I have mostly been abused at away games just for wearing my colors). Others said that they are trying to pander to low attention span millennials. Shane said that "we need the millenials to grow the game". Our group said yeah but they don't have any money to spend on the game so it should be more about pleasing us, those who are established customers with the money and the dedication who feel like you have abandoned us. Then I heard multiple 40 and 50 year STHs say this was their last year and that we have had it! One lady ended her I'm leaving rant by saying "oh and by the way, the Kate Smith thing is complete Bull****!". The topic was then supposed to shift to Kate but it got hijacked buy more price hike complaints. Shane would not apologize for the price hikes and said we will try and make it up to you by adding value to STH packages for the future (more special privileges and giveaways). Then in the midst of all of this we got kicked out of the room (more bad planning on their part). Shane admitted to us that the experience had been really rough and that he loved it and hated it at the same time. I wasn't going to let him get off that easily however, fueled by the free early morning Yuenglings and champagne they had for us I made a B-line over to Shane and got in his face about Kate Smith. He started out by saying that he was only here a week when it happened but that it had to happen because we cannot allow anyone to be marginalized. I congratulated them to him on marginalizing a chunk of their most loyal customers. I told him that he talked all about culture and family but that went out the window with the decision and the way they handled it. He told me she is never coming back and that they will play the song with just Lauren Hart when the time is right. I told him "good luck with that" and that they were so tone deaf if they attempted to do that without Kate. After pressing him very hard I got him to fully admit that they handled the entire situation wrong and that the team is aware that she was actually an advocate for people of color and spoke out against racism in her entire body of work. I told him that it was fine to acknowledge that to me in private but if they wanted to start a healing process with the fans that they need to do it publicly and admit they were wrong and they handled it terribly. I said "I know you cant bring her back at the moment but you need to apologize publicly for your character assassination of a woman who is not even here to defend herself and to her family, to whom you have marginalized and caused much pain". I told him that their unapologetic smear of an innocent woman is where my rage lies more than the loss of the tradition itself (which also angers me but not to the same extent). I said too "I know what you are doing, you guys are too smug and proud to admit your mistake and you are just hoping we all forget about it". At that point he thanked me for explaining it that way and that he will take this to their management and I will hear back from him and we can dialogue via e-mail. So far its been over 2 weeks without an e-mail. (Shocker right?) So between my anecdotal experience at the focus group and the above article, I have to say that there is definitely a big disconnect between the team and the people in charge at the moment. I think that this stems from the loss off Ed Snider and the influx of interlopers from the Nationals who think they know us but really don't and are coming off as completely tone deaf. They are going to lose a bunch of loyal customers in the next few years. It will take some wining to bring in new customers.
  4. 9 points
  5. 9 points
  6. 8 points
    I appreciate what he says, but the reality is, the Islanders outplayed us all series, and we were 3 OT goals from being swept. There wasn't that much air in the balloon, if you look at it realistically, although as a player you probably look at the score outcome, and say "We could have won" and be frustrated, like Sanheim does here. The Islanders top players and leaders showed up when called upon, ours did not.
  7. 8 points
    Nothing good can come from this thread.
  8. 8 points
    Just more proof that the league hates the Flyers.
  9. 8 points
    Actually you are ..... I feel the same way. No virus is gonna keep me from enjoying life. However, there are hundred thousands of kids and adults who are immnocompromised due to a myriad of reasons who can't fight infections like you and me. "IF" you become infected and don't know it, you can be risking the lives of those individuals whom you might interact with on a daily basis. Therefore just caution is a necessity. Listen closely...I am not saying one has to live in fear...but one needs to be mindful of others out there who can't fight infections. That is why it is called flattening the bell curve.... give folks in my industry a chance to get a vaccine or a treatment plan in place. Taking this nonchalant attitude that nothing is gonna keep me down is fine but we MUST be thinking about other individuals in our daily world. It begins at home and with each and everyone one of us doing out part which begins with good hygiene.
  10. 8 points
    There's no question it can be done. But the core of the Blues' roster was two years removed from a Conference Final. The Rangers team AV took to the Final in his first year was a season removed from a Conference Final. This is the hardest tournament in sports to get through and there are 15 other teams with the same goal. Boston is 7-3 over the past 10, Vegas is 8-2, and the Avs and Blues are 7-2-1 with 6+ game winning streaks of their own. The important approach IMO is to take it one round at a time, one game at a time, and not go in thinking "well, the Blues won the Cup last year so we can, too!" I'm pretty confident AV will instill that kind of mindset. It's sooooo good to have actual NHL coaches.
  11. 8 points
    For me, no thank you. I'd consider Ghost or Haag. And I really like Kapanen, too. And I like that Kapanen would probably push Farabee back to his natural left side. Myers is different enough from our other dmen that I don't do that. And we don't actually need offense that badly. Sure, we're 15th in the league, so there's definitely room for improvement, but it's not an emergency. Not a horrible thought, but for me, not Myers.
  12. 8 points
    I honestly would not want him at $7.25/hr. The whole concept of him makes me want to vomit. No thank you.
  13. 8 points
    Is there anything more JVR-like than him scoring the last goal in a 6-1 win?
  14. 7 points
    PRESEASON OUTLOOK Playing in the leagues toughest division, the Flyers were were looked at by most as capable of finishing anywhere from first to sixth depending on how the breaks went. I mean, this is one hell of a tough division. FINAL RECORD 41-21-7 89 points second in the Metropolitan. Swept the seeding bracket to finish first in the East, Beat the Canadiens in six games in a surprisingly tough series, then lost in seven games to the Islanders. STRANGE STAT OF THE YEAR Had the best home record in the game at 25-6-4 but were only 1 game over .500 on the road. In spite of this, the goals at home (123) werent particularly higher than on the road (101). The HUGE difference was goals against, at home Hart/Elliott were superstars, only an insanely low 70 goals allowed at home and a 2.00 goals against, but on the road they were not just subpar but positively dreadful, 121 goals against and a 3.56 goals against average. This happens a lot with young goalies and should even up with time but man that was a huge split, the difference of 1.56 goals against worse at home than at home was by far not even close the biggest gap in the NHL. Hart's split was much worse than Elliott, he went 20-3-2 with a crazy good 1.63 goals against at home but was dreadful away from Philly going 4-10-1 with a 3.81 GAA. HIGH POINT OF THE YEAR Probably sweeping the play in round against the Bruins, Bolts and Capitals to claim the top seed in the East. In the regular season, they were red hot before Covid shut everything down with a nine game winning streak right at the end crushing the opponents 39-17 in that span to announce they were to be a force. LOW POINT OF THE YEAR Watching Giroux stumble and bumble through yet another postseason scoring one goal in 16 painful to watch games. Watching the Flyers power play which scored 47 PPG in 69 regular season games (.68 ppg per game) disappear as they only scored 4 PPG in 16 games (.25 per game) 3 by Voracek, a grand total of zero by the rest of the big names. WHAT WENT RIGHT Hart was brilliant at times and Elliott found his niche as a solid veteran backup. The top three on the back end, Provorov, Sanheim, Niskanen were as good as anyones top three in the game. Couturier won the Selke as the games best two way forward, it was well deserved. Konecny established himself as a point a game stud. Hayes earned his paycheck both regular season and postseason. As usual, as always with Giroux/Couts in the dot the Flyers were among the best in the game at faceoffs. Lindblom was looking like a lock for 30 goals or so before cancer cut his season short. Voracek was fantastic, JVR was not but wasnt bad, Farabee showed flashes, Phillipe Myers did as well. Aube-Kubel looked like a future middle six winger with upside. Morgan Frost didnt embarrass himself in 20 games. Raffl and Laughton had their usual solid years. Hagg was a fantastic shut down defender. WHAT WENT WRONG Giroux's disappearing act in the postseason certainly comes to mind. Chris Stewart did nothing in his trial. Lindblom with the cancer was a heartbreaker. Ghost took yet another step back. Vorobyev was considered a Euro with upside but didnt really do much of anything. Bunnaman is slipping from prospect to suspect. FREE AGENTS A bunch of veteran spear carriers who should all be easily replaced, Braun, Pitlick, Grant, Thompson will all be gone. Elliott is an UFA and was very valuable last year and should be retained. OFFSEASON QUESTION MARKS Okay, Giroux has one year remaining on his deal at 8.275 million, do they trade him if they can or go one more year and see if he can finally find another gear in the postseason after so many failures? Kids Lindblom, Frost, and Farabee are the future along with top organizational prospect Rubtsov do they/can they trade one or both of Voracek and/or JVR to make room? Is Ghost out of chances? To be clear, this team likely overachieved a bit this year, even the 'what went wrong' players were in most cases a bit of a stretch to list there, but even with a bit of overachieving, the ton of kids who got their feet wet and have huge upside will likely make up for any slippage from veterans. Truth? I think this might be the last hurrah with this being 'giroux's team' and they are in a bit of transition right now with aging vets still under contract and kids with serious talent chomping for ice time, they should be in the mix as they transition to a younger faster club over the next year to two.
  15. 7 points
    i'm calmer now. i was drinking last night and angry and disappointed with the "effort." i found a small bridge over newtown creek and jumped off it and now i'm pretty sure i have a bacterial brain-eating disease that's set some things in perspective for me.
  16. 7 points
    Not mentioned yet (and I know his goal was lucky) is how FA signing Phillipe Myers is turning into our 2nd best defenceman right before our eyes. Hard to believe now, that this guy went undrafted.
  17. 7 points
    I’m as a big a Flyers fan as they come but I’m generally pretty pessimistic about the team based on their track record for breaking my heart with either running into a buzzsaw (Oilers, Pens, Hawks, or Wings) or making breathtakingly bad screw ups and allowing soft goals at the worst possible times. There is something VERY different about this team and I have confidence in them that I literally never had in them before in the 36 years I have followed the Flyers. If we don’t win it this year we are going to bring home the 3 foot high 50 lb piece or hardware soon boys, it’s coming. This homegrown goalie, Defense and coach are the real deal and we look as hard to play against as I have ever seen in my life. I’m pinching myself right now just to make sure this is real. Good luck to us in the playoffs and... LETS GO FLYERS!
  18. 7 points
    Went into the Grocery Store today, just so I could bang on the Plexiglass in front of the cashier to feel like I was at a hockey game....I was respectfully escorted out
  19. 7 points
    You must reasonable about this. It is NOT just about the kill rate. Right now--at present--the kill rate is still less than flu. Legitimate expectations are still 1.X%. That alone is not worth panicking about. But that is not the whole story. 1.X% of WHAT? How many people are expected to get infected is an important stat in figuring out what the appropriate level is to react to this. If 2/3 of the country eventually get infected, but the virus still kills 1.X% of 2/3 of the nation, that's a LOT of people dead. WAY more people ill, but will recover. Do we need to turn our lives upside down? Probably not. Many of us are probably gonna get sick. Most of us will recover. BUT, if you or your loved one are the 1.X%? Do I think the NBA and NHL are overreacting? Perhaps, but the previous poster is right when he/she said that they did it to avoid the inevitable lawsuit from the few who will have loved ones die who went to that game that the NHL didn't cancel, regardless of whether or not they actually got the infection there or not, and regardless of whether or not they would have otherwise been infected by other means. That is unfortunately the state of our culture in America today. "I'm gonna get me mine." And because of it, we lose the rest of the season. Not because of the true lethality of the virus, but because the one mutant would potentially ruin it for the rest of us. <sigh> And yes, BTW, the DDS in my moniker is because I'm a dentist, so I am working in what is likely one of the highest risk environs of just about anybody other than those directly treating the confirmed-infected. Be smart. Be reasonable. Nothing wrong with taking a few precautions. But don't let it take over your life. My $.02.
  20. 7 points
    I ****** hate covid-19
  21. 7 points
    Well we didn't jinx the boys, but man they didn't play too well either. There are some talented guys on the Sabres and to give their coach credit they played hard. Teen girl mojo enjoyed her first trip to an NHL rink. We've been dragging her to AHL games her whole life so she's as much of a hockey fan as a 14 year old can be, however, the show at the Wells Fargo center was such a huge step up. Our seats were really good, so that helped too, production value aside, the arena the passion of the fans, epecially once the game got tight was eye opening for her. pretty fun night with a good result, I thought Braun died when he went into the boards, it was right in front of us, I was shocked when he got up. Same with Myers blocking that shot, he crawled off the ice and went right down the tunnel I thought he was done. I don't think he missed his next shift but he wasn't on the ice after he took the penalty under 8 to go. Farabee is larger in person, so is Raffl. Good night, the kid had a fun day at King of Prussia and then a fun night so it was a win for the parental units.
  22. 7 points
    And a good whine. Wine. I meant wine. Nice to see them use their game in hand on a 5-0 loss to SJ.
  23. 7 points
  24. 7 points
    I don't know that this game was an example of work ethic. This was the 4th game in 6 nights on the road against the best team in the league and who just won their tenth in a row. I mean, they came back and made it a 4-3 game against that team, were flat out stoned repeatedly by a goalie with a point in 19 or 20 straight games. The "lack of effort" routine is a getting a little old. It just wasn't the case here. Yeah, they were outplayed in the first period.but they outplayed Tampa the rest of the game--the team described above--and held them to a whopping 24 shots. It's a long season; sometimes you lose.
  25. 7 points
  26. 7 points
    Turns out all you have to do to get a popular post around here is attend a STH meeting, bitch at the ownership for an hour, then write it up. Anybody can do that!
  27. 7 points
    "After consulting with Jimmy McCrossin, Elliott dropped dead."
  28. 6 points
    You may have fooled the wife but you're not fooling us.
  29. 6 points
    Did you see any nihilists? they don't care about Hawaiian food- but I heard that one guy can plays bass pretty well.
  30. 6 points
    What's considered blowing up though? IF we're talking about moving Voracek and van Riemsdyk, there are numerous players who can fill their roles. For instance, if JVR is moved, there's still Giroux on the top left side, Lindblom can move along side Hayes and then Farabee fits in on the third line. That leaves the fourth line open, where Raffl remains. As for the right side, if Voracek is moved, Konecny slides into the top role, NAK moves into the 2nd line spot with Hayes, and then third line, you can use either Patrick there when he's healthy (more on that) or you can use a Laczynski or Allison there. Fourth line remains in tact with Pitlick skating there. As for Braun, his minutes are easily replaced by a more mobile and better puck handling defenseman in Friedman (who everyone in the organization says is ready for a bigger role). Grant and Thompson are no big losses either. So, in the grand scheme of things, are the Flyers really blowing things up or are they moving expensive spare parts to make way for younger, cheaper players that are ready to step up? The way I look at it, that's how you move forward. The Flyers are still loaded with depth and letting some of the guys walk or moving them means you can continually replenish the system. We're in a cap world and a flat cap world for the next three years. It's going to be critical to continually have pieces in place in the pipeline to ensure continuity. Being stuck with bloated contracts for underperforming players is going to be the death knell for plenty of organizations out there. Just watch what will happen to the Pittsburghs and the Tampa Bays of the world when everything comes crashing down cap wise. They're going to be dead in the water. Same with Boston. We're seeing it in San Jose right now and Los Angeles is mired in a deep rut. Now is exactly the time to start carving away the broken pieces that don't fit the system. It's not as if the Flyers are sending Giroux, Couturier, Hayes, Provorov, Sanheim, Meyers, etc....packing. So yeah, I say when the season is over, start making the roster changes necessary to compete, get younger and cheaper.
  31. 6 points
    I remember it like it was yesterday. Especially the series clinching game. I was a 5th grader and we had to attend a 50th anniversary celebration for the grandparents of my neighbor across the street. It was being held at a hotel in Philly. Not wanting to miss the game my dad brought our brand new SONY Walkman radio. He also brought a single earpiece so he could listen relatively unnoticed. He looked like a secret service agent with his suit and single earpiece. I’m guessing some thought he was hotel security since we were fairly unknown among the guests. He kept coming over to me telling me how the scored yet again and we both celebrated quietly together knowing we were moving on to the next round. Sadly my dad has been gone for 20 years now but this is one of my favorite memories of the 23 years I got to spend with him.
  32. 6 points
    Just finished the game thanks to an excellent stream As I said all along, starting Elliott was a stroke of genius. He has the Caps number. Plus it keeps him fresh and ready, without any rust. You never know when you might need him My faith in Laughton and NAK has paid off. As I have been saying for months now, they are valuable assets and will be a major factor for this team. I love those guys I got nothing else, this is probably my best post ever
  33. 6 points
    I don't care what anyone in the media or who works for teams or the NHL itself says....there SHOULD be an asterisk (and there WILL be in the minds of many hockey fans), regardless of who wins this...."tournament". Seems its a hastily slapped together thing that is extremely short sighted and they are doing it just to be able to say "we crowned a champion in 2020"......for all the asterisks that is worth. So any team from the "no business being there Wild" to the "might have won again Blues", any one of them, simply cannot be viewed in the same light as past SC champions who actually went through a straight 82-game season and a proper meat grinder 4-rounds of playoffs to get the ultimate prize. My biggest concern in all this is the status of the proper 2020-21 season. How will that be affected? Will there be more significant injuries due to this forced 24-team playoffs followed by a short turnaround for the start of the next season? Or will we see lackluster play at the END of next season (in time for those playoffs), due to players simply being worn down more than usual? I guess we will see. And Covid 19 may not even be done wreaking havoc in the sports world either. But for this upcoming playoffs, I find it very hard to get excited about it. Feels like one giant exhibition season before the real season starts in October again.
  34. 6 points
    Playing in empty arenas will give an unacceptable advantage to the Panthers who will feel at home regardless to the hub city they're playing in.
  35. 6 points
    Dear all, As part of my season ticket holder benefits the Flyers invited me to a 10 year reunion of a handful of the 2010 players on a Zoom type system where we could see and hear all the players but they could not hear or see us (see screenshot at end of recap). It was hosted by Steve Coates and radio announcer Tim Saunders. In attendance were JVR, Scott Hartnell, Claude Giroux, Simon Gagne, Danny Briere, Ian laperriere, Kimmo Timonen, and Brian Boucher. The event lasted an hour and they discussed some of the behind the scenes stuff from the 2010 playoff run. Firstly they discussed how they had been picked to go far at the beginning of the season and how they laid an egg early on which got Stevens fired. Coatsey and Saunders asked if the hiring of Lavvy made a huge difference and they tried to be diplomatic about it but said yes implicitly. Hartnell said that Stevens was all defense and that nobody likes to play defense and they all felt freed by Lavvy's offensive system to do their thing. As you can imagine they also highlighted that Stevens was very soft spoken and that Lavvy was very fiery which really inspired them. They also said the leadership of Pronger was huge. Harts said just the name gave them more confidence but also his big body and the leadership as well. Then they went into a discussion about how the season was ending where they were losing 8 out of 11 down the stretch including one to the Rangers in game 81 of the season. The most interesting thing we learned about the last game of the season was that Lavvy anticipated that the Rags would play them tight and may even play for a shootout as they had Lundqvist in net and figured if they could get it to a shootout they would beat the Flyers in it (I myself certainly thought so when it got to the SO). Lavvy wanted them to be prepared for this so at practice he called Gagne, Giroux, Briere, JVR, Richards and Carter over to him and said he wanted them to study film of Lundqvist in the SO and pick a move that they planned to move and practice that move. They did so and Briere went out and executed is perfectly. Giroux on the other hand changed his mind in the middle of his attempt and then had nothing to shoot at so he just went 5 hole and was lucky that it went in. Boucher mentioned that he was so nervous before the game and really felt the pressure that afternoon. He also note that he couldnt stand Lundqvist's celebration at the end of Ranger wins where he taps his posts and then does a huge fist pump. Bouch witnessed it from the bench in the previous game and wanted to do it back to him if the Flyers won and when he made that last save his celebration was an attempt to emulate and mock it. Booch said he actually tripped up when trying to do it as he got up awkwardly from the save but that was the story behind his famous celebration. They didn't talk much about the Devils series except that they had to focus on Elias and Brodeur and that they felt they could beat them. They lost the first game and Giroux was slamming stuff around the locker room in anger while Pronger was loose and kind of chucking at him for his tirade. This looseness helped to loosen Giroux up as he didn't feel too panicked after that and Flyers went on to win the series. They also talked about Lappy blocking the shot with his face and he joked that he did it because he didn't trust Boosh which brought out laughs all around. Naturally they discussed the Bruins series in detail and mentioned how they felt that they had a lot of bad breaks and bounces in the first 3 games. One key thing that they mentioned that happened in the first 3 games was Richards' huge hit on Krejci (who was playing extremely well for the Bruins up until that point) which knocked him out for the rest of the series. At the same time Gagne was due back in game 4 and those 2 events combined were some huge factors that swung the series ,according to the players. For pride they didn't want to get swept so worked hard to win game 4 (in OT) and said they felt that if they could just somehow win game 5 in Boston that they could still win the series as the pressure would all be back on Bruins. They shut out Boston in game 5 (4-0) but lost Boucher in the process when Ryan Parent pushed Miro Satan onto him while he was down making a save. The weight of it caused Boosh to sprain both MCLs. Boosh said at the time he was sure they were both torn. Kimmo came over and asked Boosh if he was OK and Boosh yelled "No! Its all over" then Mcrossin came over and Boosh was yelling "I'm done, I'm done! Leighton hadn't played in 2 months but stepped in and completed the shutout. They had no doubt they would win game 6 at home which they did 2-1 and were feeling good about game 7 until they got down 3-0. Then Lavvy called time out and read them the riot act (Hartnell said that he yelled at them a lot). The first thing he said was to Leighton which was "Stop the *#&%#*ing puck!" Then he basically told them to get their rears in gear and that they just needed one to get back in the game. JVR (called VanReimsdork by Harnell BTW) scored before the end of the first and knew they was hope but still were not super confident as the locker room was very quiet and subdued. They tied it in the 2nd period though on goals by Harts and Briere. Both of them heavily complimented Leino (who they had hoped could join the call) as being very slick with the puck. They both said that they loved playing on a line with him as he would dangle with the puck until they get into a good scoring area and he routinely fed them the puck there resulting in goals. At 2nd intermission the locker room was buzzing and they said they knew they were going to win and it was a matter of time. Gagne finally got the GWG on the PP after a too many men on the ice penalty for the Bruins. Gags said that Richards tried a shot/pass (which was a strategy by the team during that season) which was a wrister meant primarily as shot but had a little power taken off it so it could double as a pass (if needed) for a deflection or even to be received and controlled. In this case the shot/pass was partially blocked by the Bruins. Gagne was able to find it however and pounce on it for a quick shot which would be the game and series winning goal. The team of course was pumped up and was brimming with confidence although it was hard to fathom that after all that they were only 1/2 way to their ultimate goal as it felt like a lot of work to that point Surprisingly they were not worried at all about Montreal who took out Washington and the Pens for them (the latter which had given them fits the last few years). In fact they shared that during the Bruins game they were actually scoreboard watching and were all excited when seeing the Canadiens "absolutely pasting" the Penguins. They were telling each other that if they could just beat the Bruins that they would be in the finals! Hartnell said that they considered the Habs a "tap in" because they matched up against them well and had beaten up on them all year. Interestingly Gagne's and Lappy's friends (who were French Canadian and Habs fans) were all telling them they had no chance vs the Habs after what they did to the Caps and Pens, but the Flyers were not fazed and won the series going away including 3 Leighton shut outs in the series. They of course were elated going to Chicago for the final. Lappy was telling everyone, especially JVR and G to enjoy it and appreciate it and really go for it as that was his 17th year and only trip to the finals (he knew it would be his last season too). Lappy said he certainly enjoyed the 3 mins a game Lavvy would use him in the series. JVR and G said they are glad they listened to him as they have not been back since. They said the United Center was loud and got them pumped up, sadly though they couldn't really explain what happened though in Game 1 which was a track meet where they kept blowing leads and then game 2 which was tight checking where they couldn't do anything. They felt the series was really lost there as they couldn't steal a game (I have said for years game 1 was the one that got away, Saunders agreed and said if they win 1 there they we would all be having a very different conversation). Of course the won game 3 on an OT deflection goal by Giroux off a planned shot/pass by Carle to G. (I re-watched it and noted how Carle did a gentle wrister rather than a hard shot!) They again couldn't explain what happened in game 5 (a brutal 7-4 loss) and all agreed they just had a bad game, in fact their worst of the playoffs. Boosh also mentioned how he had to replace Leighton in 2 of the losses and how the Flyers scored enough in those games for the loss to be pinned on him (they called it a "Boosh special"). Then the conversation turned to game 6. They touched on how Carter could/should have won it earlier and how he put it right into the only place Neimi was covering (sigh). Naturally the discussion turned to "the goal". Coatsey asked if anyone saw it go in. Everyone looked sad and glum. Finally Kimmo spoke up and said that when he saw Kane put his arms up he looked in the net and saw the puck trapped in the padding at the bottom and knew immediately it was over. Kimmo said he has replayed the play over and over again in his head for years trying to determine what he would have done differently. He said unfortunately Kane had a slight step on him which caused him to be beaten on the play. Lappy also said from the bench he knew it had gone in as players like Kane know when they score and would not have celebrated otherwise. Then they asked Boosh as a member of the "goalie union" if he would speak on Leighton's behalf. Boosh said when a player like Kane is there with the puck a a bad angle you have to worry about him shooting as well as making a pass out in front. If he shoots you want to go down and block it and if you are playing for the pass you push off the post to slide over. Boosh thinks what happened is that Leighton couldn't decide what to do so he left the post to cover the pass and then decided to cover the shot, unfortunately being off the post the puck had a place to sneak in and that was that. The hour was winding down but before we left Kimmo wanted to tell 1 final story. He started with "when I was traded to the Blackhawks" and Harnell interrupted to sarcastically say "yeah yeah you won a cup, we are all so happy for you". Kimmo said that he was old and was like Lappy playing 3 minutes a game at that point and while it was great winning it would have been much more better to win in 2010 . He then got back to his story of when he was traded the Hawks. His story was that the first time he walked into the players areas of the Blackhawks' facility he was met by a gigantic display featuring Kane with his arms in the air scoring the series winning goal on Leighton. Also featured in the display was a giant Kimmo getting beaten by Kane. Timonen said that it added insult to injury and wasn't the welcome to Chicago that he was hoping for. With that Coatsey read a spot for Coors light which apparently sponsored the event and they all signed off. Although it celebrated a losing effort it was a nice thing they did for us and I really enjoyed the hour reliving a magical ride that came up just a little short (story of my life as a Flyers fan born 1 year after the cups). Anyway hope you enjoy this recap that you are all safe and well and that we eventually get back to the rink for some games. Lets go Flyers
  36. 6 points
    so ...just for fun here ..... "IF" someone wins the Stanley Cup in an empty arena, does Bettman still get booed?
  37. 6 points
    It figures, the Flyers have their best year since forever, with a real goalie, depth scoring, and a team firing on all cylinders, looking like veritable contenders ("I coulda been a contender!"), and the NHL conspires with the Chinese to produce this thing thereby scuttling the Flyers chances! They should rename this virus the (Leon) StickleVirus
  38. 6 points
    It is. And that you basically have to be shamed into it by a guy like Derek Grant FFS
  39. 6 points
    Nah, it's an illusion. I'm really disappointed in JVR not dropping the gloves yesterday when it was 5-1. He could have etched his stupid initials in stone among his teammates with a move like that. Maybe he was worried about hurting his mole.
  40. 6 points
    I hate to rag on a team that played so well...but god I hate when a line quits on the last shift on a goalie who played so great. They looked really good all game...except that.
  41. 6 points
    You should have put signs that said this on UPENN's campus 8-10 years ago.
  42. 6 points
    I'm cool with it as well. My initial reaction was "Whoa - that's a lot for a guy on the books for $5MM+ for three more seasons who might have peaked 2 years ago...". We don't need Derick Brassard 2.0. That said, top 6 minutes on the Pens is not the same as top 6 minutes on the Wild (all due respect). I'm optimistic he'll fit in nicely. It's really the pick and Addison. Galchenyuk had to have been a throw in for salary space (i.e. - the deal gets done with or without him). And...JR still has most of the cap space from Guentzel on LTIR to play with. It's all about maximizing the Crosby/Malkin window at this point.
  43. 6 points
  44. 6 points
    Okay, so i haven't researched this or spent more than maybe 2 minutes thinking about it, but my immediate reaction is that this might possibly the most asinine firing and replacement in memory. Seriously, the first year was incredible results and last year was very good for a second year franchise. This year I agree they're a bit more inconsistent, but they're literally 3 points out of first in their division. Bringing in DeBoer is not an improvement over anyone, let alone Gallant. The people he had in San Jose, there's really no excuse for the results. Sorry, really not a fan of DeBoer. This is stupid to me.
  45. 6 points
    @Poulin20 First of all, I really appreciate your posts from the STH meetings (well...ALL your posts but especially these ones). I'm also glad to hear someone else complain about the bs gimmickry that sports has gone to, to "entertain" the fan base. I want to be entertained by the sport, not lights and sh!tty music. I won't miss the playing of God Bless America by Kate, but the way they did her was wrong. Maybe if they'd only have played it during important playoff games like they did her actual performances I wouldn't have grown to despise it. Anyway, thank you sir for taking the time to write this out for us, and also to speak to one of the lemmings running the franchise now.
  46. 6 points
    He’s like the guy that picks up a beast at the local bar at 4am and calls himself a cassanova. The 4am special.
  47. 6 points
    Is there anything more JVR-like than him scoring the last goal in a 6-1 win?
  48. 5 points
    And now Derek Grant from the Ducks for a 4th. Thompson is one dimensional, a defensive forward with little if any offensive ability, Grant however can score a bit and can play pretty much anywhere in the bottom six, winger or center. Big guy, plays big, loves to play the body, sneaky shot. Should be a god fit.
  49. 5 points
    Not minding this trade as a Pens fan at all. Alex just did not work out on the Pens team. With all the injuries at forward the Pens had early, he had plenty of time to show what he could do on top lines as well as the power play. 5 goals and 12 assists in 45 games was not what they were looking for. He basically became a fourth liner with about 11 minutes a game. Addison I don't believe was going to see the light of day in the Pens organization for several years due to the depth they currently have at the blue line. So for him, and the Pens, it may be seen as a win/win situation there. But it still has to be seen if he can get back his small size against NHL caliber players. The thing that hurts is that first round conditional pick, but this is the motus oparendi of GM Jim. And it seems to usually work out.
  50. 5 points
    I'm just glad they're playing a team I hate for the holidays. I was able to work up a pretty good hatred for the stinkin' Senators. But those western teams...eh, can't seem to care. Now the Rangers...ohh, I've hated them for so long it's like picking up your first POS guitar when you find it in the attic, you just know all the places on the neck where that thing sounds the best...just like the way a Rangers fan's esophagus gurgles when you're choking them out in the entrance to the men's room...good times.

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