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11 minutes ago, CoachX said:

So what was offered by these other clubs? Colorado for example?

According to Seravalli, Byram was on the table from Colorado. 

53 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Seriously? 

 

Anyone. For 1/4 the cost. Neither one of them makes the team better. As a matter of fact, I think it's fair to say they both make the team worse. 

 

Keeping Ghost and Hagg would have saved the team a 1st, 3-2nds and a few other picks, and almost $5 million a year in salary. pretty sure we'd be better off with that scenario.

Plus the third that Carolina paid to get Gostisbehere from AZ...

The Flyers getting Gaudreau is most likely to end exactly how @flyercanuckpredicts. First, the Flyers will spend assets to dump JvR and his contract, as well as his production. Then they will also have to jettison another player, I'm guessing either Konecny or Provorov, in a deal that brings back little in the way of cap. 

Indications are that Gaudreau will command~10 million on the open market. So you've traded two players for one. 

let's assume that it's Konecny that goes with JvR. 

Konecny: 16g, 36a, 52p

JvR: 24g, 14a, 38p

A total of 40g, 50a, 90p outgoing.

Gaudreau: 40g, 75a, 115 p in a career year. So you're adding 25 assists, plus whatever you get from the low cost guy that they bring in to replace Konecny. And that's if he continues to produce like last year. Otherwise, he's a ppg player over his career, which means you're losing production.

which sounds fine. Until you realize that they also lost Giroux's production. Even if Couturier comes back at 100%, you're looking at another never ending contract that may slightly increase their offensive production over a terrible year. Not exactly the kind of move that makes me all warm and fuzzy. It just leaves one more contract for Fletcher's eventual replacement to somehow get rid of.

On 4/14/2022 at 1:48 PM, Samifan said:

As I mentioned previously, as hard as the Flyers and Ellis have tried to keep his injury a secret the fact PB just threw it out there as a hip injury then tried to cover his blurb by saying LBI is hysterical. 
 

The fraternity of NHL players is pretty close knit so I believe Bissonette mentioned hip injury because he’s heard colleagues around the league talking about it or heard it from Ellis himself. 

Isn't Bissonette one of Hayes' frat buddies? 

5 hours ago, Howie58 said:

Dear AJ:  Yeah, moving Zito or an incumbent GM would be tough.  I'd go after the assistants of Karkoleinen, Zito, Wilson, or Poile.  Hopefully the apples wouldn't fall far from the tree.

 

I was referring to the fact that they interviewed him and then hired Fletcher.

The guy I like is Tulsky out of Carolina. Pipe dream, but he's from Philly.

On 3/31/2022 at 2:09 PM, Howie58 said:

Sam Hinkie was hated and eventually fired, but he did bring in some good picks.  We need some good first rounders in coming years.  I would prefer David Poile or Bill Zito as GM.  

If only the Flyers had a shot to hire Zito instead of Fletcher... Oh.

49 minutes ago, jammer2 said:

Retool? Nah...fire every member of management and tank for 5 years...or suffer the pain of mediocrity for the next decade!! Nobody is untouchable. 

I really don't think they're going anywhere until Clarke and Holmgren and Lombardi are gone. Even if they mercifully fire Fletcher, they're just going to hire a GM with their same vision, a backwards-thinking coach like Torts or Tocchet, and not understand why things continue to go poorly.

16 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

I have nothing to base this off of than a hunch, but I am sure Homer was meddling and trying to jiggle Ron like a puppet on a string (for details on how this work see Chuck Fletcher) and Ron probably said no Fug off i'm doing this my way you had your shot and that was it.

 

I don't really feel like going back and piecing things together, but I think there's a very good chance this is close to what happened. It certainly seems like Clarke and Holmgren are still tied into the day-to-day operations - see Clarke's comments on Fletcher and Hextall - and there seems to be a decent amount of evidence that Hextall kept a much smaller circle. I think there's also some truth to the idea that they were unhappy with the speed of the rebuild. Fletcher certainly seems more in the haphazard, grab the shiny toy, Clarke and Holmgren mold.

On 4/7/2022 at 1:26 PM, flyercanuck said:

 

 If Yandle was given a guarantee then that's pretty stupid considering no one else wanted him. 

 

 If he wasn't given one, and still got to play every game the way he was playing, that's even stupider! 

FWIW, Friedman is "100 percent certain" that Yandle was told "we'll get you there" (the record) by the Flyers and it is a primary reason why he signed in Philly. According to Friedman, there were other offers, but no other team would guarantee him a roster spot.

22 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

You got your wish.

 

He is fired.

 

Now what???

Pegulas still need to be fired.

2 hours ago, Podein25 said:

@Zzeke

 

I'm not from Winnipeg so I don't feel a strong need to defend it. But I had to move away and come back to appreciate it. For those who don't know anything about Wpg besides the cold:

 

- Some of the best restaurants in all of North America, due to a diverse immigrant population

- A world class ballet and generally one of the best Arts scenes in North America

- A fantastic music scene with many great old theater venues

- Lowest cost of living in all of Canada, cheap housing, cheap electricity (Hydro)

- A diverse economy shielded from the negative effects of big economic slumps

- A world class Zoo with an amazing polar bear exhibit

- The museum of human rights so American neo-Nazis can come learn about the holocaust and other travesties, like Canada's shoddy treatment of Indigenous people

 

People think Winnipeg is a small city - it's not any longer: the population of the greater Winnipeg municipal area is around 800,000. That's an economic engine which affords, among other things, an NHL hockey team.

 

 

 

It's on my expat retirement shortlist. I have to find a way to deal with the dry winter air though.

Dubois is the best player in the deal. I wonder about Columbus' center depth now, too.

14 hours ago, Mad Dog said:

 

I looked it up and that's the question that I found unanswered... Just about every source of info on this injury mentions that the recovery is 2-3 months.  Yet the Flyers are putting his absence as a minimum of 2 weeks.  I don't know... Either they just don't want to spread panic just yet, or they clearly know something we don't.  

From folks who have had the injury, the first ten days are nothing but pain. But after the pain subsides, you can do stuff. It's not healed, but you can get back to playing. So it seems like Coots' pain tolerance is going to be the limiting factor here.

https://twitter.com/JHallNBCS/status/1346141964123713538

5 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

All these players no love for NAK and you want to double shift TK no playoffs for us.

 

I was mad TK didn't show in the playoffs too but this won't motivate him.

Oops. Yeah, that's supposed to be NAK with Laughton.

10 hours ago, Zzeke said:

 

My take on the forward lines of 14:

 

Lindblom-Couturier-Voracek
Farabee-Hayes-Konecny
Giroux-Patrick-Sandin (G will settle P and S)
Laughton-Bunnaman-Aube Kubel (ideal AV 4th line)

#13-Raffl

#14-JVR (until he can be moved somehow)

If Patrick not healthy, then Frost at 3C.

 

 

Lindblom - Couturier - Konecny

Giroux - Patrick - Voracek

JVR - Hayes - Farabee

Raffl - Laughton - TK

JVR potted the second most 5v5 goals on the team in the 6th most minutes among forwards. He also had more primary assists than everyone but Voracek. As for his defensive failings, he had one of the best shot attempts against rates on the team, and only NAK and Thompson had  better expected goals against rates among forwards. His actual goals against was still better than Giroux, Hayes, Farabee, Konecny, and Raffl.

Why are we sitting him in favor of a guy who has never played a game in NA? Having JVR on your third line is a bonus, not a detriment.  The cap is flat. Moving JVR requires bringing back significant cap. If he's as worthless a player as so many Flyers fans consider him to be, that means you're getting back 7 million in Jori Lehteras and Andrew MacDonalds. You're not getting players of worth, you're not getting good draft picks. 

21 hours ago, Zzeke said:

Today we have lost our #2 Center !

 

Kevin Hayes is out !

 

 

 

Any way we can persuade him to make it permanent?

Also, of course an organization that lives in a swamp would be proud...

https://jfresh.substack.com/p/whats-patrik-laine-worth

I can't say I won't get it. I got shots in October and November as part of the Pfizer Phase 3. Pfizer has since extended me a request to enter the vaccine group in May, assumedly that means I received a placebo previously. I think the information is important, so I will almost definitely participate when my next appointment rolls around.

Armchair psych-evaluating, but Miller seems like a borderline sociopath at the least, maybe a narcissist. Maybe both. Apparently Chayka had him on their no-draft list, but with his departure and the sanctions they had in place during the draft, the group leftover didn't get the message.

UND dropped him too. 

Miller doesn't have a right to play hockey for UND or the Coyotes. That said, while I may not have been thrilled with the idea, it's possible that UND could have moved forward with him on the team if they'd attached significant strings. There's a serious question to be asked here of whether it's better for everyone to tear Miller's future up over things he did as a 14 to 16-year old, or if hockey could be used as the carrot to see if you can change him for the better. 

On 10/21/2020 at 5:05 AM, flyercanuck said:

 

Ya, every NHL team can play that game.

Just look at the names that went off the board in that same draft before Carter Hart.

Laberge was ranked higher than where the Flyers took him in his draft year, and generally higher than Debrincat. He was a high-skill, high upside pick. The problem with where Laberge is is most likely related to this right here:

By most accounts, he's never been the same player after that.

On it's face, I think Toronto at best is treading water. Thornton is a good pickup, but Simmonds has unfortunately seemed cooked for the past two years. They will bring some accountability to the locker room though, if that was lacking. I don't think they make up for the losses of Kapanen and Johnsson on the scoresheet.

Barrie wasn't great in TO, but I still think there's a bit of a downgrade going to Brodie. Bogosian's health will be a question mark all season- he's hit 65 games once since 2011-2012.