DaGreatGazoo

Here's another way to look at it: Would you trade VLC for any of these players? Matt Moulson, Mike Cammalleri, Jussi Jokinen or Mats Niskanen? Cause that's exactly the type of player VLC's contract is PREVENTING the Flyers from signing.....

Yes...they gave up nothing to sign him, except cash---Which Mr Davis and Comcast have plenty of these days. Trade him for a 6th round pick and move on.

THIS! Not to mention he is NOT what this team needs. The one, and arguably, only position of NHL quality depth on this team is center, and it was before signing VLC. It will continue to be after he's gone. For those reasons, and that gawd awful contract--he should be moved.

Hmm...good point, I forgot about them. Now, I'm not sure either.

Coatsey for the Flyers isn't any better, so I'm not just picking him cause he's related to the Pens! Hockey never ceases to amaze me with how bad their TV coverage can be--and it's across the majority of the networks. I watch the NHL Network, which is THE FLAGSHIP of THE NHL, and I keep waiting for Bob and Doug McKenzie to show up or Wayne and Garth to appear. It's brutal at times.

Cool..was just curious. I don't mind him...the other guy(Steigerwalt, maybe). I won't watch the Pens cause of him.

If it's an under 35 contract, the contract goes away--as does the cap hit. If it's over 35+, well--see Chris Pronger as example 1A. Even though the Flyers get LTIR relief from it.

Yup! Make it a double!! That's why I said I trade him for ANYTHING at this point, it's not about ROI, it's about saving 20 million in cap space.

Welcome...

FYI...they gave him 5...not four. Feel better???

No problem, bud!

Now, if only I can get to Cannes....would love to see this movie. CANNES, France (AP) - Viacheslav "Slava" Fetisov has had a storied hockey career - including two Stanley Cups with the Detroit Red Wings - but he was initially reluctant to see it documented with a movie. "He tried to bring me into the film from the beginning," said Fetisov of director Gary Polsky. "For some reason I didn't like it though." Polsky eventually won him over, and the result is "Red Army," which is being shown at the Cannes Film Festival out of competition. The movie explores the social and cultural changes in the Soviet Union, then Russia, through the experiences of the national hockey team, and the life of its superstar captain, Fetisov. Polsky's first impressions of the "Red Army" team were their balletic style of play, compared to the more brutish style practiced in the United States. "You, know I preferred this style of play and I think it really evolved sport and hockey to another level," said the director in an interview here last week. "That really piqued my interest about the Soviet Union and my roots, through hockey, and I wanted to explore why, how they got so good and what was going on over there." Though the film features interviews with former teammates, Fetisov - who won medals including gold for his country but was on the 1980 U.S.S.R. hockey team which lost the "Miracle on Ice" game to the underdog United States - is the focus. It touches on his falling out with his Russian coach over his decision to play professional hockey in the United States and being branded an enemy in his native country. It also touches on his difficult transition in America. "And even though I don't speak any English, when you walk in the dressing room, you can feel that people don't like you here, you can feel how they do stuff and you ask yourself why you're here, you know," he said in an interview. Eventually, he became more settled, won two National Hockey League championships for the Red Wings and even was an assistant coach. He later returned to Russia to become the Minister of Sport. Now a member of the Federal Assembly of Russia, he helped Russia get the winning bid to host the 2014 Winter Olympics. Despite the controversy that followed, with protests over Russian legislation branded as anti-gay, Fetisov is hugely proud of the Sochi games. "I spend the all two weeks in Sochi during the Winter Olympic games and for me it doesn't matter what kind of result on the sports field, I see the new facilities, I see the happy people on the street and venues in the Olympic Park, I see the volunteers from around the country who came, young people came to help run the Olympic games," he said. "They take pride, they try to show the new Russia for the rest of the world, it was so nice and people admit this and I talk to my friends from IOC and they say, 'You were right, Slava, you got the best ever Olympic for the winter sports,' and we could be proud."

I trade him for ANYTHING that gets rid of that contract...ANYTHING. I'd take a pick, provided the other team takes the whole salary hit. Again, it's not the player per se, but the atrocious contract. Freeing up the $4.5 million for FOUR years, is as--if not more-important than any return they get.

No argument from me, @Samifan!!

Hello, Vancouver.

You know Mike Lange?

You know Mike Lange?

Am I a bad fan if I simply say, at this point..."So ******* what?!?!?!" That's a over a generation ago. I was 4 years old and it's my 1st memory of hockey---wearring my Flyers PJ's, sitting on my dads' lap. BUT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD....I am so sick and tired of Al Davis trotting out something that happened 20 years before Al Gore invented the internet. Get over it! "steps off the soap box"

11). Remove the Zamboni. It's an old piece of machinery. Slows down the game(STUPID INTERMISSION). Let 'em play on 60 mins of snow. That's what they did when they were growing up and playing on the ponds! 12.) Regis Pierre McGuire on national TV. Is it in the CBA that whenever, and wherever, there is an NHL national telecast, he HAS to appear??? Dude has more damn lives than a cockroach. 13.) Use of the word "concussion" when reporting an injury--officially or otherwise. No one follow the protocols. No one scratches a player if they fail the tests. They are simply upper body injuries, whip lash, etc. Kill the word. Stop trying to fake us out. We aren't THAT stupid.

This...times a thousand. This is the 21st century model. Without looking at it, and it would be an interesting study, I'd like to see how "successful" teams are set up. Homer was always a solid talent evaluator, most Flyers fans agree with this. The business side of being a GM was his issue(overpaying/contracts too long/throwing away picks/etc).

I'm not in the Shero sucks camp. Heck, if I had the desire, I can find posts from a year-18 months ago, where EVERYONE was praising him. Flyers fans included. My point was simply, someone didn't think he did a good enough job...regardless of what we think. IMO...DFB shouda been gone. But what do I know...

Well. FWIW, I think today's announcement settles the Shero debate. For better/worse, right/wrong. When your boss doesn't think you did a good enough job to keep it, that pretty much trumps everything.

Not sure how it works on the current deal, but I'm assuming the Flyers have to tender him to retain his rights for the future.

Per Meltzer: #Flyers and #teamSweden D Erik Gustafsson signed deal with 'Avangard' of #KHL

I think we are saying the same thing? :blink: