SCFlyguy

Couturier was my favorite Flyer since the end of his rookie season, but I wanted him traded the deadline before he signed his extension (and said so here) because: he was their biggest trade chip to replenish their assets and start the rebuild (that still hasn't started); it was obvious his age, skills, and salary didn't match where the team was talent-wise. It's not hindsight if you say it ahead of time. I am going to continue to say this: trade Konecny and don't make the same mistake again.

Only Flyers fans can be deluded into thinking Crosby wouldn't have succeeded against them the last 20 years if we just hit him some more. Instead of being mad at Crosby, you should be mad at the Flyers for icing such crappy teams since Crosby has been in the league. It's no coincidence he has scored more points against the Flyers than any other team. If he were on the Flyers, you would love every minute of it, just like fans loved Clarke.

It would have been better if he wasn't here because the team would have been clearly worse and maybe the front office would have realized what they had (it should have been obvious but apparently Little Danny Briere is dumb). It doesn't really matter if he is here or not because he isn't a wizard who can turn rusted spare parts into an F1 car. He will be long gone (or be GM) by the time they are relevant again.

Yep, same every year. The same people get excited about the organization making nothing moves (bringing in a nobody, bringing up a middling prospect, or getting rid of a poster's new least favorite player) and think the organization has now figured out the new secret sauce that no one else has figured out (how to win without rebuilding). It's tiring.

They won't be able to get out from under the albatross contracts (mainly Couturier) until the contract is over. What needs to happen is stop giving out the albatross contracts. If they re-sign Konecny, he will be an albatross contract.

Yes.

The organization wasted another season and another deadline not doing the things that have to be done. The house has had termites in it for 30 years. You can put up wallpaper or knock it down and start over. The clock on the rebuild doesn't start until they do.

None that wasn't apparent on the first day of the season my friend. The only ones who didn't know it were in the front office and on this board.

But that Adam Oates playoff run (5 games) really taught the young players all about the playoffs.

I will explain my analogy, since you maybe didn't get it. You said: Of course there are no guarantees. My point was, doing a full rebuild, like wearing a seatbelt, maximizes your chances. Why not do that? You might say, "well I don't want to watch a rebuilding team" and that is understandable because watching a rebuilding team is not fun, at least early on. But I can't say I have had much fun watching this team in a very, very long time.

No one is saying you can't root for the team however you want. If you're happy just watching the make the first round again, nothing anyone says here should affect that and it's perfectly valid. As befits a team that has one playoff series win in the last 12 years, 90% of the discussion on the Flyers' board is about how this team is going to get better, what moves to make, etc. etc. How one roots for the team has no bearing on that. Passion has nothing to do with that. Hope has nothing to do with that.

Wearing a seatbelt while driving doesn’t guarantee I don’t die in a car crash, so why bother?

I've been saying this for at least three years. Every year they don't tear it all down is delaying them tearing it all down by another year. They are going to have to tear it all down to win anything, so they are just delaying the inevitable and accomplishing nothing in the meantime.

Some people are never going to learn apparently.

Konecny is their only real trade chip and if they sign him long term instead of trading him they are not serious about rebuilding. It's that simple. There is zero chance of this organization successfully pulling off a retool by just picking where they usually do and struggling to find one playable but not exciting player every draft.

Which guys were that? Tippet maybe? I don't see Morgan Frost barely eking out 50 points as a huge jump. York played pretty well and he has maybe the most untapped upside of any current player on the team, but huge jump, no way. I can't think of another possibility.

Not when you are supposed to be rebuilding.

There is absolutely no new information they have now that they didn't have last year when Briere took over, or this offseason, or at the deadline. If they were going to do this, they would have done it then. My guess is we are going to hear a lot of, "we were at top 3 team in the division until almost the end" kind of talk. I wish I was wrong.

It's incredible to me that this organization could have gone through the retool not rebuild Hextall and Fletcher years and want to do the exact same thing again. Yet here we are.

And yet they are going to do it again with Konecny.

I would like to see some data to back up this drivel. Making the playoffs hasn't help them make the playoffs again the next year since 2011. I would take the top 8 draft pick over whatever they are going to get this year.

It's not an implosion. This is the kind of team you get when you have nothing but mids.

I'm not saying it is surprising they didn't go for a full tear down. In fact, I'm saying it was obvious all along, despite the corporate rhetoric. So get ready for a lot of seasons going forward like the ones we've seen the last 20 years. Basketball and Hockey aren't comparable from a building standpoint, but the Sixers problem wasn't the teardown, it was what they did after they already built it back up. Choosing Harris over Butler and the Mikal Bridges trades were very bad decisions that squandered the remaining resources they had from the teardown.

Good thing Scott Laughton and Nick Seeler are still here to steady the ship instead of 2-3 more picks in upcoming drafts.

This mid round draft pick is sure going to put us over the top next year.