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1 hour ago, Howie58 said:

Yes, we have made progress. 

Citation needed.

I don't see anything different from the last several years, other than fewer players I hate.  That doesn't mean more players that are actually good.

9 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

 

 

Got him, Torts!

6 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

If Michkov is coming over early does that change the calculus for anyone?

No

9 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

I think unless Michkov can join the team, they will be worse next year. 

A lot of what I think will happen will depend on the Michkov timeline.

If the Flyers aren't saying anything about how they got Fedotov maybe that means they have those people working on the bigger fish. If Michkov is in play, then extending Konecny isn't the worst move.  But there are other threads to come for that nonsense. 

They got Fedotov out because he sucked and he got cut by his team.

Michkov can't do it by himself.  I don't want another Lindros - a star player going to battle every game with half a team of pluggers.

They need to get assets now that have half a chance of being good when Michkov is in his prime.  Waiting 3 years to get Michkov help isn't going to work.

1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

Hey, come on....Torts coached a non-playoff caliber team all the way to out of the playoffs!

Lmfao, this is the entire season in a nutshell.

Absolutely nothing accomplished other than getting the worst draft pick a team this bad should be getting.

1 hour ago, CoachX said:

what they gave up. You make a safe move that doesn’t cost anything

We had to destroy the season to save the season.

3 hours ago, CoachX said:

there isn’t anyone on this forum that is against them rebuilding

Yet there are plenty here who are against moves that make the team worse the next year or two but might make the team better in four years.

It would be amazing if there were a word for moves like that when used as part of a coherent strategy.

The same people that are against the rebuild are the same people who can't figure out why the team never gets better.  I'm sure there is no connection.

2 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said:

 

I see. So it's basically a crap shoot. I accept that if we're talking about where the Flyers are now. But earlier in the season they played consistently good, fast hockey - goaltending was solid - and it wasn't a crap shoot at all.

 

Certainly ACBA is "the bottom line" it's just not very helpful.

Helpful to what?

7 hours ago, jammer2 said:

any knowledgeable hockey mind would anticipate that declining with age.

Well, yes, but what about the Flyers organization?

Maybe this is the turning point and it’s all Stanley Cup from here, lol.

1 hour ago, GratefulFlyers said:

what a whackjob team....

 

I'd love to believe in the Flyers, in Jones/Briere and Tortorella but how can I? What kind of team spends weeks sabotaging their PO hopes then goes into MSG and beats maybe the best team in the NHL? Beats them convincingly too. This team makes no sense to me.

 

It's like a switch was flipped back to "ON" and last night they started playing professional hockey again. whackjobs...

 

 

 

 

You are just the weirdest person.  There is no switch.  The Flyers' points percentage is .531, while the Rangers is .688, a difference of .157.  I could be completely off, but that would suggest that at worst that the Flyers would be expected to get about 35% of the points when playing the Rangers, which is winning about 1 in 3 games.  (Someone please correct me if my math is off.)  We are also talking a handful of games between them, so the difference between winning 1 of 4 vs. 2 of 4 is a huge swing.

Maybe I will start a Grateful Dead thread where we can geek out on shows, because I don't get your views on hockey.  But I'm worried you are going to come along and tell me the Brent years are the best era.

4 hours ago, Fuzz said:

The only positive Fletcher has ever done was getting Tippet & a 1st rounder for Giroux.  Otherwise.....................

Think what they could have gotten if they traded him a year or two earlier.

Ok, I'm done now (no one post anything dumb I have to respond to).

I will leave it at this: rooting for anything other than a full teardown at this point is getting in line for seconds at the feces buffet.

2 hours ago, flyerrod said:

Who knew Walker was a critical piece of this team…….

He wasn't.

Just because one tire isn't bald doesn't mean it's a critical piece.

Get real - this team has no critical pieces.

4 hours ago, radoran said:

And we're "further along than we thought" and the "culture" is fixed and we have FALLEN IN LOVE WITH JOURNEYMAN WAIVER WIRE PICKUPS WHO ARE ESSENTIAL TO OUR CULTURAL REBUILD.

 

It's insane.

God, having to listen to this drivel all season was driving me nuts.

It's one thing for the team to say this - they are getting paid to.

It's another for fans to delude themselves like this.

1 hour ago, radoran said:

 

Oh, c'mon now, we had the greatest player in the world knock him on his ass and then score a goal - in the playoffs(!) - and that guy went on to become so successful and overwhelming as an influence on the league that his greatest achievements were the John Scott All Star Game MVP, the longest tenured captain in the history of the franchise, and a seven-time Toyota Cup three stars winner.

 

The impact of that hit limited Crosby to three Cups, two Ross, two Hart, three Lindsey, two Messier, two Richard. and two Conn Smythes. As well as being named to the All Decade Team for the 2010s (second All Decade Team 2000s), and a five time winner of the A.T. Caggiano Memorial Booster Club Award (no, seriously).

 

So, he really showed him.

 

Hit him again...

 

Only Flyers fans can be deluded into thinking Crosby wouldn't have succeeded against them the last 20 years if we just hit him some more.

Instead of being mad at Crosby, you should be mad at the Flyers for icing such crappy teams since Crosby has been in the league.  It's no coincidence he has scored more points against the Flyers than any other team.

If he were on the Flyers, you would love every minute of it, just like fans loved Clarke.

It would have been better if he wasn't here because the team would have been clearly worse and maybe the front office would have realized what they had (it should have been obvious but apparently Little Danny Briere is dumb).

It doesn't really matter if he is here or not because he isn't a wizard who can turn rusted spare parts into an F1 car.  He will be long gone (or be GM) by the time they are relevant again.

2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

I can't wait til they do the exact same thing next year, and we're having the exact same conversations about about veteran leadership and how the playoff run that doesn't materialize will benefit the team more than a high draft pick. And then wonder why this team is always in the same place it is. 

 

 

Yep, same every year.  The same people get excited about the organization making nothing moves (bringing in a nobody, bringing up a middling prospect, or getting rid of a poster's new least favorite player) and think the organization has now figured out the new secret sauce that no one else has figured out (how to win without rebuilding).  It's tiring.

4 hours ago, flyer4ever said:

IMHO, 2 things need to happen for the mediocrity to end. First they need to get out from under the albatross contracts.

They won't be able to get out from under the albatross contracts (mainly Couturier) until the contract is over.  What needs to happen is stop giving out the albatross contracts.

If they re-sign Konecny, he will be an albatross contract.

8 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

Is he too old to fit the Michkov timeline?

Yes.

The organization wasted another season and another deadline not doing the things that have to be done.

The house has had termites in it for 30 years.  You can put up wallpaper or knock it down and start over.

The clock on the rebuild doesn't start until they do.

8 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

I do think some information has been gathered about some players and whether or not they should be kept for the future or used to acquire some other assets.

None that wasn't apparent on the first day of the season my friend.

The only ones who didn't know it were in the front office and on this board.

But that Adam Oates playoff run (5 games) really taught the young players all about the playoffs.