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Trading the inaugural winner of the Flyers Alumni Community Leadership Award? Perish the thought. https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/laughton-wins-inaugural-flyers-alumni-community-leadership-award

Two of the three "leadership" guys just happen to be Holmgren draft picks. They're also the last Holmgren picks on the roster. "BEEKS - GET BACK IN THERE AND WIN THE TRADES!"

I'm glad these guys aren't in charge Seriously, making a move on a player signed for four more years because they were "disappointing" when the entire team disappeared is peak Flyer fan. I can see them buying out Atkinson and Johansen (or they should). I'd be somewhat surprised to see other guys moved - pending "the right deal." I think they are happy with where they are and will look to add to this group. For me, they still don't really "need" anybody over the age of 25.

I'd deal Laughton in a hot second for value. In unrelated news, checking in with CapFriendly confirms that the Flyers are still paying Bryzgalov for three more years. Meanwhile, Sergei Bobrovsky is backstopping a Cup favorite. #halloffame

They put a toque on a moose and called it "Canada" Or, you know, so I heard...

"The problem" here is that Laughton is "too valuable" for the Flyers to deal - they've said it. And I, for one, appreciate the player. To your point, I would love something to shake this whole thing up. That said, I don't want anything to do with Zegras... Laughton for Krebs strikes me as a deck chairs move. I don't know why the Wild are dealing a 22 year old top 10 pick with a year left on his deal who just got into the league. (I mentioned Rossi a couple years back with (IIRC) the Giroux trade and was roundly chastised for it as the "Wild never moving Rossi" ) To be clear, I'm not opposed to these guys (Zegras possibly exception) as much as I just don't see it necessarily happening. It's entirely possible - likely, even - that "the answer" to the Flyers isn't available this offseason. The question then becomes do they try to force it? Again?

Make an argument for why the teams they are on don't want them and why, if they don't want them, we do?

You know where I am on things. However, overall it's not a bad body of work from Briere for year one.

The Provorov deal was a good one. He got rid of Hayes. He got a first for Walker (2 1sts and a 2nd for Provorov). He got a 5th for cap space. He added a second with Drysdale... His off-season signings were the foundation for this team achieving what it did (regardless of how we might feel about it). Overall he's infinitely better than Chuck Fletcher just based on where they are now. That's no guarantee of future success...

They valued him like he was Sidney Crosby. He was "the guy" they built "the trades" around. He was never that good. They hung him out to dry making him a captain for the first time in the NHL and making a complimentary playmaking winger into a #1C. If they had never "won the trades" he might have been setting Jeff Carter up for a decade instead of passing back and forth with Voracek. That's just scratching the surface of the past decade of ineptitude.

Sure they can. But planning on finding those guys is a fool's errand. Teams may hit on a guy like that once in 10-15 years. The Flyers got a pretty good player at 22 once... Not that they planned on it or the GM even knew his name, but they did! And then tremendously overvalued him... There are also fewer and fewer European players being "missed" like Kucherov.

Is 47 goals and 110 points a superstar player?

The STHs had bailed. The venue was empty. There was no more waiting list. Briere took over and said "rebuild" and fans were on board BEFORE the possible playoff run. I know. I was one of them. The "problem" this season is when it went from "rebuild culture and develop players" to "make the playoffs." Guys who needed surgery should have been shut down and gotten surgery. You're building for Michkov not "anything can happen." They were overdue for the air going out of the balloon and then it did at the worst possible time. They overplay their rookie goalie and then throw a KHL goalie out for his first start six days after he arrives. And that blows up. Then Torts goes all Torts because a team that mightn't have been anywhere near the playoffs misses them anyway. They name leadership when they have no need to - beyond "playoff push." They face plant as the captain is healthy scratched a few weeks later. And then the whole "make the playoffs" face plants as well. This season wasn't about "trying to win every game" and making whatever short term decisions in pursuit of that regardless of long term implications. It was supposed to be about the long term. Until it wasn't. Barring a significant change in personnel next season is actually likely to be worse than this one. I know all the reasons it will be better. I'm just waiting for them to say they're "definitely a playoff team" going into next season. Anything can happen.

They don't have a crystal ball, but they know how players perform. To pretend that every player can play 110% at every time is a fundamental failing of a coach.

To be fair, Buffalo did as well with McDavid and Eichel on the block. They got the consolation prize, then lost it. No guarantees. No evidence that teams can win without bottoming out, either.

Preds take it on home ice in six and lose in the next round. This will be a good sign for Nashville who will miss the playoffs next year.

Well, at least there was no chance of his reduced skating ability leading to a potential reinjury of his shoulder. After all, the important thing is making the playoffs this year.

Jon Sim sees the instant replay before the play happens.

There's actually a not bad argument to be made there...

Given that we only found out about Gauthier not wanting to be on the Flyers after the deal went down, we don't really have any perspective on how wide a net was cast. I get the feeling that sending him to the Other Conference also played a role. Drysdale has some obvious red flags. On the plus side, he appears to want to be here and seems liked in the room.

So, instead of the guy who said before the draft he wanted to come here, they should have drafted the big European defenceman. And they were also gonna take the defenceman committed to a US College instead of the big Canadian center. I like 20/20 hindsight teams. The Flyers have Robertson-Aho-Debrincat on their first line. Gauthier screwed the team over. The Flyers got what they could out of it.

Was he on offer?

There is a "take what you can get" aspect to this trade. It's not like Briere was shopping Gauthier by choice - he essentially had to move him. I'd imagine another recent top-10 pick defenceman with size and wingspan wasn't necessarily available.

The Crater trade brought Voracek (and the pick that became Couturier). Wayne Simmonds is among my favorite Flyers ever. I'd take two Cups instead in a heartbeat. #winning

Why is this in the Flyers forum? Because Carter signed four contracts in his career. They were offered by: Bob Clarke Paul Holmgren (twice) Ron Hextall He won two Cups - for Los Angeles. The Flyers won the trades.