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We can but hope.

To be clear, the reported deal was Hayes and Sanheim for Krug and the Blues's first round pick in 2024. Which would you like more: a third first rounder in this year's draft or six more years of Travis Sanheim? Floor's yours.

I mean, sure, as far as this goes. He also turned Ivan Provorov into two firsts and a second. It also cost him a fifth he recouped with cap space to turn an expiring UFA into a 1st rounder. He got rid of Kevin Hayes. I have my issues with the Seeler deal, but it's not soul crushing or ridiculously onerous. I do have concerns that Briere is doing the typical NHL GM things like the 4th for Johnson to make the draft pick worse. He just flat out said he thought the rebuild was "ahead of schedule". And, yes, all they've got is another middling, bubble playoff team. I want to see if he moves that needle with a significant move. Otherwise the New Era is just the Old One with a boyish face.

Honestly, at this point they're doing what Nashville just did - "rewarding" this year's team with a chance at "the playoffs". It's a short term thing with potential long term repercussions. I would like to see Briere make a run at, say, Anaheim for a top 5 pick with a couple of the firsts in hand and a sizeable roster player. IF there is a guy in that spot they KNOW can fill one of the big holes for "when Michkov comes over". Anaheim could be convinced that getting a solid top 6 forward and a couple of firsts could accelerate their rebuild. Just one example, but I don't want to see them just take the 15+ pick and the 25+ pick as "first rounders" and be done with it. Would like to see some creativity.

Gurianov has at least done something of note in the NHL. He has a 20 goal season and two 10 goal seasons. Allison has 13 NHL goals. I - like Tortorella - don't know what to make of Allison because he couldn't stay healthy. This is a win out of the gate for Briere and if Gurianov does anything it's a bonus. Pending his ability to, you know, play defense and listen to his coach.

It ain't just you...

It's an acquisition for basically nothing for a player who will play the way the coach wants. The idea isn't "make the best move" it was "make a good move" and it was.

I find it exactly the opposite. Briere emerged here turning a 4th into a 1st and leveraging cap space to replace a 5th. If they get ANYTHING (a laurel, and hearty handshake) for Johansen it (checks notes) saves Comcast money. I do NOT see the issue here, beyond the fact that the draft pick they were already going to have wasn't going to be all that great. I don't see how this deadline isn't an overall win for Briere and I don't particularly like the Seeler deal. Leverage some of these 1sts to get into the top 10/5 and that's even better. They have specific (1C/1D) holes to fill. It's yet to be seen if Drysdale can shoulder the burden. It's a good group. They play for each other. They play the right way. Yadda yadda. Are they capable of winning 16 playoff games in one year?

I really don't feel this is an "all in" move. Dropping a 4th on an expiring contract as a recognition to the locker room for their continued efforts isn't a massive waste from where I sit. Dealing some of those 1sts for "win now" would be "all in."

That is 100% exactly what this trade is about. This is a Walker replacement for the playoff run.

I'm no fan of the Seeler deal, but these are no way Holmgrenian level events here. He effectively upgraded a 4th rounder to a 1st losing a 5th and taking on short term salary. That's not great but it's not bad either. This isn't 2nd and 3rd for Andy MacDonald territory and $2.7M for 4 is no where close to $5M for 6. The Johnson deal is throwing a bone to your locker room and while I might not have done it, it's not the end of the world. Granted there is some PTSD from ol' Fletch blowing Holmgrenian out of the water with two roster players, 1st, 2 2nds, and a 7th for Ristolainen and the subsequent contract. We've taken several steps back from that ledge.

Anything can happen, my man. Anything can happen. I get the reasoning behind the deal of throwing a bone to the locker room after trading Walker. I'm not worried about Comcast's money and they don't have anything to spend the $2M on next year anyway. I am worried that they've started the "in a better position than we thought!" process. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once they start down the dark path, forever will it dominate their destiny, consume them it will, as it did Bobby Clarke's apprentice. via GIPHY

Well, and this comes back to when you "have to" sign a guy to $9M for eight years it might not be the best idea when it turns out he's not the right guy for the position.

generally, they're ephemeral and don't amount to much. occasionally, there's a bigger deal involved that happens later. this is more "addition by subtraction"

Buyout looks like $2.6M for two years. Honestly, retaining the $2M for future considerations and a nice skate sharpener isn't a terrible idea.

It costs $2M to retain an additional 50% It costs $2.85M to bury him in the AHL. Floor's yours.

They had some injury issues, and have some serious questions in the crease, and they fired their coach, but they lack a type of veteran leadership that Toffoli simply isn't going to bring. I like Palat, but he's not that sort, either. OJT when it comes to leadership is a tough situation for young players in this league. Hischier is 25. Hughes is 22.

The trajectory of Johansen from $8M max length must have player to "might give you something if he costs $2M" should be instructive to most GMs. It won't be, but should.

I'm sure he's "in play" but I don't see him going anywhere. The additional retain concept on Johansen is an interesting idea... I see a few minor moves today, at best (from the Flyers).

It's one 2nd and they flipped Walker for an additional 1st. Johansen may never play for the Flyers and we all kinda wish Petersen hadn't. I would like to see them flip some picks for a top 10 but it can be harder to do in hockey...

Right, but in an 82 games season to GET to the playoffs you do need guys who are going to make those plays. Your point about whether the $775K guy trying to make a statement is the same guy with the four year $10M contract is also a good one.

You definitely need guys who will make the playoffs to spark the team. There are many such plays.

This is the primary argument for Nick Seeler, and it's a good one.

Much like in Buffalo hockey, they fired the guy who started "the Process" after letting him start it. The people who then replaced in both situations had no interest in pursuing the plan. Obviously lots of top picks doesn't guarantee anything - Edmonton says "hello" - but you'll be hard pressed to find a post-lockout Cup winning team this century that doesn't have a top five pick on it...

He created two of them... Two are the Flyers' own Florida's is Fletch's deal One of the 2nds is a compensation for not signing a 1st I'm good giving credit where it is due, but to say he got "eight picks in the next two years" is a little disingenuous. The real question is what does he DO with them...