Man that is awesome. Tocchet is a really good dude. I remember when he was ending his career in Philly, might have been early 2001, and I saw him and John LeClair at a bar in Philly (Finnegan's Wake). I chatted them up for about 10 minutes, and had a drink with them. I'll never forget how down to earth the two were. Back to the topic in hand, if anybody can get through to Downie it will be Tocchet; however, I truly think Downie is a shell of his former self, and I wouldn't expect too much toughness out of him....