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You beat me to it.

Maybe Salt Lake City would take him to build their new team around. He's great in the locker room and terrific against Malkin.

I personally expected utter crap and said so. It's what we have. yeah, they collapsed at the end, but the truth is he got more out of them than what they were. But he also wore out a barely average group playing well-above their heads and working harder as a club than I've seen in Philly since Richards and Carter were at a downtown Philly bar. I wasn't in favor of Torts being hired. He's not really the current problem, but he's not the solution, either. The problem with him surviving the summer is exactly what I said earlier and wasn't kidding: they're only going to fire him in November or December and crap the rest of next season as a result. Start the real damn rebuild and bring in a rebuild coach.

Well, if they stay to script, they keep Torts until November or early December next year so they have an excuse as to why next season is completely screwed up too, because "we have the talent that we should be winning so it's aluminum imports or interest rates or space lasers or something." It can't be that they have built a talentless team.

Yep. Maybe the Flyers should move to Kansas. (By the way, I know you're well-aware, but in case it's escaped others: the conversation about the 4th isn't really with the 4th. It's some of us simply saying "we told you something that should have been patently obvious to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention" about the larger point we completely agree on). It really shouldn't take a walk to Damascus.

Yes. But take Nyqvist, for example. He's playing on Nashville's top line (he doesn't belong there, IMO, but it doesn't help my argument). He's scored 500 points in this league and is a 13 year player. Pageau is a solid 3rd line center on a team quite likely heading to the playoffs. His on ice value is much more than his fantasy value (limited to, "it's Friday and I need faceoffs"). He's a 12 year player on 2 teams. All I'm saying is that they're solid long-term players that we traded away to rent a washed up crap defenseman for 6 weeks or whatever for a lost cause instead of keeping it either to draft or use in a functionally cognitive way (package with something for a better pick, package for a prospect, whatever). Trading it when they did and for what they did was stupid on its face and didn't ever turn out as well as the "stupid on its face." Again, you've advertised all year it's a rebuild. Fine, then rebuild. Don't toss assets away for a guy that should be off selling prefab windows somewhere (NTTAWWT, it's a valuable job...).

Well, there have been very successful picks in the 4th round, but it's the Flyers we're talking about so fair. But that doesn't mean to throw it away for a defenseman even Buffalo doesn't want. Because, I mean, the last Buffalo castoff defenseman turned out sooooo well. Take as many swings as you can. And this: Completely on point. The 4th rounder is indicative of this idiocy, and that's why I harp on it.

Or since they replaced him with a defenseman who cannot play defence...for a 4th round pick. I don't care that he's not here past this year. He should not have been here at all and the whole exercise was asinine.

If anyone's looking for something to watch and hasn't already, I'm mid-season 2 of Yellowjackets. It's mostly dark but often funny and, for me, really very good. I now return you to your regularly scheduled spin cycle.

What would you base that prediction on? I mean really, just because it's repeatedly happened and we're stll doing the same damn thing doesn't mean that Phil Connors won't do some random good deeds for us and things won't change.

The good news is THIS time the same abject stupidity will work. Because history...or something.

You and me both. Almost makes me want to go back to Facebook to read about how we have the league right where we want them and will show everyone at the parade on Broad Street.

In other news, I don't think Enron will survive. Should I sell?

Was definitely worth pissing away a fourth round pick for all this winning, eh?

Zzzzzzzz Way too many years of the same regurgitated conversation with people who want nothing different than another 15 years of the same ********.

Surprising, too, because he's always been a stalwart defender.

This is the part we agree on. Your way has gotten exactly Jack since 2012, and I'd include we 2012 and go back to the lucky run in 2010. I suggested no one that has any value for future. And i really don't care who played defense the rest of this season. Erik Johnson sure as hell hasn't. I'll take the 4th rounder back. And I'd be happy as hell for the 2nd or 3rd rounder for Seeler. What have we gotten from him to far for the extension? As for the others, I'll take addition by substraction and use the space for a talent signing. As for the sixers, they've made mistakes but they're been relevant. The Orioles were relevant. The Flyers are a footnote. They're in the video when other teams' milestones happen. This will continue. And I'm completely done watching it.

Their value will never be higher!

Sigh. The question is what haven't they done. Trade Seeler. No justifiable reason to keep him. Trade Laughton. I know this one is something you can get behind. Trade Atkinson. This one is harder, so maybe they tried. Trade Coots. I suspect they tried because they didn't name him captain until after the deadline. I think. Trade Deslauliers i know, limited no trade, but he has to submit a 20-team list. You still have 2/3 of the league. Find a dance partner, Danny Jones. Trade Garnet Hathaway why? Some idiot GM somewhere still believes he's a plus. Take advantage. What did they do that contradicts this? Erik Johnson in the moment, at the time, there was legitimately no reason outside of the marketing department in charge of manipulating the clinically brain dead fans among us that this was remotely a good idea let alone necessary. This was brain damage massaging the oxygen-deprived brain damaged imbeciles.

So ultimately screwed up both short-term and long-term priorities. [The rest not specifically directed at you] First of all, i find it extremely hard to believe that this front office had no idea what was going to happen with Hart. I'm fact, I'll bet anything that the entire league did, which was exactly the ONLY reason Hart was even still a Flyer. They came into the season saying rebuild. They could have folded at any time and said, "we said rebuild, and we meant it" and to hell with the myopic Facebook crowd and frankly some here. Because between here and the parent board(s) it is really exhausting the past at least 12-15 years having the same damn conversation over and over and over again and the same morons (names change over time) pretending "yeah, but this time, building the wall with applesauce is going to work. I'm a real fan, and I have faith." To those people, one more time: no, you're a ####ing moron and that's your #### in your hand, not your house key. You're never getting home that way. Please, people, learn to distinguish reality from horse crap.

Kick a## and don't even bother with the names.

My "ugh" response is about the truth in your post.

@BobbyClarkeFan16 Except the mouth-breathers (NTTAWWT) on the Flyers' Facebook page.

And the season itself was entertaining to watch. Everybody wins.

Not me. I want nothing to do with that.