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Other than that, I really don't have much of an opinion on the subject. Pretty much undecided on him.

I hate him. For the record, I completely despise him. Like I did Lecavalier, except that unlike Vinny, I didn't hate Voracek from the moment he arrived. First, he's not the only one that reliably contributes offensively. First of all, it's hardly "reliably," and second, the amount of offense he contributes the other way due to sheer idiocy and arrogance is mind-numbing. He simply makes utterly asinine plays in the neutral zone and high in the offensive zone. They don't ALL end up in the Flyer net, but he puts an absurd amount of pressure on the Flyers' defense and goaltending

I'm not saying G is suk and haven't. He doesn't. I get what you're responding to with this, and I hear you, but I am not saying that. This isn't about his skill. Richards was quite frankly a horrible captain. I'm still fine with trading him because he simply was horrible captain and there, too, there was something horribly wrong with the group. He and Carter were shipped out not because Richards is suk or Carter is suk but because they represented the leadership and their "It's just one game" and you can just screw off and 'f[orget] the coach!" mentality was permeating. What we

I completely agree with this. But I do think it's plausible. But so is the chain saw and the teenagers...er...trees by the lake. Niskanen, specifically, is wild speculation at best. But from my vantage it fits in nicely with what to me is several seasons of mounting symptoms.

Agreed. I don't want to overstate what I've said (although I already have), because while 2007 is a great of example of how this should work, there was presumably this idea when we threw Richards & Carter out. Even in retrospect, I think the Richards & Carter reasoning was the right one, but the execution flat out sucked and it's derailed us for quite awhile. So, I would still move BOTH of Giroux and Doorcheck and let's close the Amish Outhouse chapter of FlyersLivesFightForWives and move on.

On the other hand, I really like either of these options.

I would not trade Giroux, Vorachek, or Hayes for prospects or picks. We have a lot and they're actually skilled enough. Again, what we have is a radioactive core that is infecting the kids (and others) once they get here. I find it interesting--and telling--that Myers was really good in his first season and suddenly forgot how to play. More telling, and almost proof in my mind, is that Niskanen played one season on a TWO year contract and ran from the building after one season. Voracek and Giroux, in particular are aging, radioactive, and have huge conta

I'm not impressed. On the New Jersey side, they emptied both barrels in one shot and came away with two middling prospects and a late first round pick in a meh draft. I think they could have done better. On the Islanders side I really think they got the wrong players for the wrong team. I know it's defense first in NY, but I really think they should have taken the opportunity to get some offense and I don't think they actually addressed it. It's not horrible and, as I said above, they didn't give up much to do it, but I'm simply not impressed with the move. The

Agree on both counts.

I think the rest of your list would be among those that would be the supporting, "yeah, bring him in also, to support." Ovi qualifies but God, I hate him. Plus, I can't help but think if he were a better leader they'd have had more than one Cup. But, they DID have a Cup.

No one wanted Ghost mid-season due to cap but more importantly before the expansion draft. I really don't think our players are scrubs. I think it's culture rot. The only way that will be fixed is change in the player leadership. The current leadership needs to be removed and the new leadership CANNOT be promoted from within. They need to acquire that. I don't have an answer from where or specific names, but someone in the over 30 crowd with winning on their resume. Maybe a couple people, actually. But the interim captain of a season or two needs to come from elsewhere.

Sorry bud. Can't say I want them to ever win. I don't hate the Leafs. They're actually fairly irrelevant to me, to be honest. But I like to laugh at their fans. I also laugh at funerals, car accidents, and people coming out of Cracker Barrel, so...

So what you're saying is that outlook is promising #TrustTheProcess

Antonyms for competence helplessness, impotence, paralysis, powerlessness, weakness defectiveness, deficiency, inadequacy, inadequateness, ineffectiveness, ineffectuality, ineffectualness, inefficaciousness, inefficacy, uselessness Voracek

Lol. I thought the same while posting.

The shootout attempt by Jake was the dictionary definition of "pathetic."

Based on the film short: Competent Plays by Jake Voracek.

You say this like this is the only sports franchise in Philly

I'm so irritated at this point. Trade all the things. Move the whole damn thing to Indianapolis.

That was sarcasm, right?

I'd keep TK. But I'd trade Hayes for a Klondike Bar.

Narrowed it down to the PP, didjya?

Yes. That's how I *proposed."

Yes, please

Seriously, though. Can we stop talking about bringing in help and just cut some dead weight cancer?