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Yet people still show up for Flyers games. I'd say people in Arizona are smarter, but readily available evidence says otherwise

Do you think maybe our scouts or player personnel should, I don't know, have a conversation with a potential draft pick before drafting them? I mean, it's still always a crap shoot, but somehow "human resources" completely screwed up on Gauthier.

It is entirely this. I've said it elsewhere. The difference between the effectiveness of the PK vs. the PP is that the PK takes hard work. Generally, Torts has them working hard and committing, so the PK shows that. The PP is about talent. Sure, hard work, but a pig will work really hard; he will never fly. You have to have the skill and then someone with the skill to work hard. The lack of skill is loudly evident on the PP and has been for several years. Until they draft and trade for the type you suggest, this will continue.

We prorated.

On the other hand, if the goal was to have something entertaining to watch for once, they did that. If you're in it to win it, this season helped nothing

See? There's good players there.

Meanie

Also, don't believe a damn thing my wife says.

Aww. I thought that was prerequisite. I know a poster that has sheep, if that helps any.

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Hall of Fame Threads I Gave a Crap About ~ Ruxpin

Oh good grief.

If a team moves and no one knew they existed, did they move?

I suspect these two things are connected. It's really the only explanation.

I think even early in the season there were a lot of the typical "Hart was exceptional" comments. I think he kept us in a lot of relatively low scoring games and kept the "holy ****" reaction among the players lower, knowing that it wasn't likely the first of six. Hart played as if maybe he knew this season was his last NHL hockey. I'm afraid "back of the net" will soon have an entirely different meaning.

Yeah, it wasn't a bad pick. Seriously and with no sarcasm. It just was't the right pick. All along. 10 chances, I pick David Jiricek there with every single chance. Even there, there's no particular proof that Jiricek's the right pick either. But for where the Flyers were and the need for high level defencemen, I pick Jiricek. Time will tell, but he's Drysdale (who I really like) without the paper mache skeletal structure.

I agree, but it's a better argument if you replace defensemen with defensemen. Or exchange Erik and Marc with Couturier and Atkinson.

This is exactly why you have to have sex at the end of every date like you might accidentally fall groin-first into a thrashing machine the next day.

Possible. I think the reality is that Cindarella's carriage was really a pumpkin all along.

I think the power play exposes what is really wrong with this team, especially over time while changing out players and coaches: a good power play ultimately requires talent. The Flyers simply don't have high-end talent. Maybe Konecny, but soberly name a single Flyer that makes PP1 on any of these teams: Tampa Bay Lightning Carolina Hurricanes New York Rangers Dallas Stars Edmonton Oilers Colorado Avalanche Florida Panthers Toronto Maple Leafs Detroit Red Wings Vancouver Canucks Look, you can hard work your way against teams October to March. The power play really isn't a big secret in general. I mean, there's a couple vaguely different structures, but it's a half-court game and it comes down to who can play quickly and at a high level. This takes skill. Hard work is great but in a half-court game hard work by players with skill is what it takes. And 5 on 4, if you have to sacrifice either, you keep the talent. The penalty kill, conversely, takes hard work and some "game smarts." Torts had them working hard and playing smart for the most part. This is reflected by their success (until recently) on the penalty kill. But regardless of who the coach is, there really is a small bag of tricks in terms of how to play it or strategy. The PP coach simply can't manufacture skill level out of thin air. Apparently, not Rocky Thompson, anyway. I argue no one can.

You beat me to it.

Maybe Salt Lake City would take him to build their new team around. He's great in the locker room and terrific against Malkin.

I personally expected utter crap and said so. It's what we have. yeah, they collapsed at the end, but the truth is he got more out of them than what they were. But he also wore out a barely average group playing well-above their heads and working harder as a club than I've seen in Philly since Richards and Carter were at a downtown Philly bar. I wasn't in favor of Torts being hired. He's not really the current problem, but he's not the solution, either. The problem with him surviving the summer is exactly what I said earlier and wasn't kidding: they're only going to fire him in November or December and crap the rest of next season as a result. Start the real damn rebuild and bring in a rebuild coach.

Well, if they stay to script, they keep Torts until November or early December next year so they have an excuse as to why next season is completely screwed up too, because "we have the talent that we should be winning so it's aluminum imports or interest rates or space lasers or something." It can't be that they have built a talentless team.

Yep. Maybe the Flyers should move to Kansas. (By the way, I know you're well-aware, but in case it's escaped others: the conversation about the 4th isn't really with the 4th. It's some of us simply saying "we told you something that should have been patently obvious to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention" about the larger point we completely agree on). It really shouldn't take a walk to Damascus.