Dubas or Dumbass?

[WordsOfWisdom]

Now that the season is over, it's time to start looking at the first move the Leafs should make this offseason:  Finding a new GM. 

 

With all due respect to Dubas, his biggest claim to fame is drafting Matthews at #1 with the lottery pick, and everyone was saying he should draft Matthews #1.

 

Has there been a noteworthy trade or acquisition that Dubas has made to improve the Leafs since then?

 

 

 

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Pittsburgh Penguins acquire
Jared McCann	July 17, 2021	Filip Hallander 2023 7th round pick

Pittsburgh Penguins acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Kasperi Kapanen Pontus Aberg Jesper Lindgren	August 25, 2020	2020 1st round pick Evan Rodrigues Filip Hallander David Warsofsky

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Colorado Avalanche acquire
Calle Rosen	February 24, 2020	Michael Hutchinson

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	New York Islanders acquire
Matt Lorito	February 24, 2020	Jordan Schmaltz

Vegas Golden Knights acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Martins Dzierkals	February 24, 2020	2020 5th round pick

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Nashville Predators acquire
Miikka Salomaki	February 22, 2020	Ben Harpur

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Florida Panthers acquire
Denis Malgin	February 19, 2020	Mason Marchment

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Ottawa Senators acquire
Max Veronneau	February 19, 2020	Aaron Luchuk 2021 conditional 6th round pick

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Los Angeles Kings acquire
Jack Campbell Kyle Clifford	February 5, 2020	Trevor Moore 2020 3rd round pick 2021 conditional 3rd round pick
Comment: The conditional third rounder in 2021 becomes a 2nd round pick if either Clifford re-signs with the Leafs OR Campbell wins a certain amount of games. Kings are guaranteed at least the 3rd Rd pick if neither of those conditions are met.

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	St. Louis Blues acquire
Jordan Schmaltz	July 25, 2019	Andreas Borgman

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Vegas Golden Knights acquire
David Clarkson 2020 4th round pick	July 23, 2019	Garret Sparks

Ottawa Senators acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Nikita Zaitsev Connor Brown Michael Carcone	July 1, 2019	Cody Ceci Ben Harpur Aaron Luchuk 2020 3rd round pick

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Colorado Avalanche acquire
Tyson Barrie Alex Kerfoot 2020 6th round pick	July 1, 2019	Nazem Kadri Calle Rosen 2020 3rd round pick

Carolina Hurricanes acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Patrick Marleau 2020 conditional 1st round pick 2020 7th round pick	June 22, 2019	2020 6th round pick

Minnesota Wild acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Fedor Gordeev	May 30, 2019	2020 7th round pick

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Winnipeg Jets acquire
Nic Petan	February 25, 2019	Par Lindholm

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Nashville Predators acquire
Nick Baptiste	February 24, 2019	Future considerations

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Los Angeles Kings acquire
Jake Muzzin	January 28, 2019	Carl Grundstrom Sean Durzi 2019 1st round pick

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Ottawa Senators acquire
Gabriel Gagne	January 11, 2019	Morgan Klimchuk

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Florida Panthers acquire
Michael Hutchinson	December 29, 2018	2020 5th round pick

 

 

Anaheim Ducks acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Adam Cracknell	December 11, 2018	Steven Oleksy

Vancouver Canucks acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Josh Leivo	December 3, 2018	Michael Carcone

Toronto Maple Leafs acquire	Date	Calgary Flames acquire
Morgan Klimchuk	November 27, 2018	Andrew Nielsen

Dallas Stars acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Connor Carrick	October 1, 2018	2019 conditional 7th round pick

New York Islanders acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Matt Martin	July 3, 2018	Eamon McAdam

Edmonton Oilers acquire	Date	Toronto Maple Leafs acquire
Nolan Vesey	June 8, 2018	2020 conditional 7th round pick

 

 

I'm going to say Jack Campbell and Jack Muzzin might be the only good trade acquisitions.  Am I missing anyone?

 

Look at the list of "nothing" trades above.  Those are the kinds of deals that squander Stanley Cups when a team's "Cup window" is open to win now.

 

[hobie]

I think you're mistaking Dubas' acquisitions with Lou's. 

[Fixxer]

I'm thinking that Dubas didn't have enough experience or hockey knowledge to know what it takes to build a contender. Talent is fun, signing young stars to big $$, but comes playoff time, it gets tougher. Size and grit is less sexy to and doesn't lead to being super popular, but in the end, it's about team success and less about star power. Ask the Oilers. A team like the Blues won without a true Superstar, although O'Reilly and Binnington did elevate the team.  We'll see what Campbell offers them as goaltending, beginning the season as the starter in net. Anyway, I think that all that I've just said has been repeated many times, so it's nothing new. How will that defense do? we'll see.

[hobie]

I'm thinking TO didn't have the right players to win anything but a playoff berth when Dubie took over. AM, MM, JT and Willie are the bedrock that wins Cups, possibly year after year, like TB which is far better example to follow than the one Cup wonders, St.L..

 

Dubie had the Marleau contract to contend with, a contract that Babs and Lou knew was going to be an albatross, it was from the git go.

 

Hunter frittered away 20 plus draft choices, his only astute choices were MM and AM, the rest were at best replacement players.

 

Lou had the best chance to make something of TO, 3 stars on ELCs and Rielly was the highest paid player yet he couldn't dig up decent NHL d-men. I guess we can't blame Lou because TO wasn't unearthing decent draft choice currency and we know what a tough negotiator Lou is, just look at his amazingly stingy Marleau signing. Lou at 100 years old with 200 years of NHL experience didn't seem to be enough to make the Leafs better so I don't think the mess he left Dubie should be Dubie's fault. 

 

A lot of the trades that Dubie made were trades to open positions for quality players, hopefully, each team can only have 50 players contracted to the NHL team. Dubie had a lot of deadwood to eject which is what responsible/decent GMs do.

 

We shouldn't forget Shanny in the mess, he signs Lou(the no facial hair man) who had presided over the ongoing demise of the Devils, he signed Hunter who was a great CHL scout but didn't have any proven ability to draft NHL players, he signed Babs by exceeding Buffalo's offer at the last minute, the facts were Detroit fans and media were happy to see him go and Buffalo was interested, Buffalo has only done one thing right in like 15 years, draft Eichel.

 

I think TO has lots of potential, still, some teams with similar to TO's roster had to endure many years before winning a Cup, Washington, and it was their stars that got them there, I don't see a Cup in St.L.'s future, that was a one and done.     

 

[TF88]

I think Dubas is an average GM at best. Some good moves, some bad ones (Kadri at his salary for Kerfoot and 1 yr of Barrie was the worst leaf trade in a long time). The current version of the leafs will lose if any combination of Sandin, Dermott or Liligren are playing on D come playofff time. A team can run with one small defensemen; not 3!!! Wake up Dubas. Sandin’s turnovers and sloppy play let MTL win last year. Instead of realizing that he continues to rely on small defenseman that are just undersized for teams like the Rangers, Capitals, Bruins, Lighting, etc. Wake up Dubas !