OccamsRazor Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, CoachX said: JVR will do nicely on the 3rd line, especially with young talent pushing to take his spot. Coots isnt going anywhere. I see him as the next captain and team leader. Giroux? Thanks for your service, go have a chance to win a cup Ryan Gilbert @RGilbertSOP Atkinson talks about the passion of Philadelphia fans, says "I think winning solves a lot of problems." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, CoachX said: with what, we have nothing left? No picks. No assets Tarsenko for JvR and a B prospect. The money favors St Louis, the production will favor slightly PHI. Or straight up. JvR is a 25/55 guy in a bad year. Last year he was very good 5 v 5 and his play driving was maybe his best season. If we're moving deck chairs and rolling dice...why not? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: Tarsenko for JvR and a B prospect. The money favors St Louis, the production will favor slightly PHI. Or straight up. JvR is a 25/55 guy in a bad year. Last year he was very good 5 v 5 and his play driving was maybe his best season. If we're moving deck chairs and rolling dice...why not? I'll take it, and buy you your beverage of choice for suggesting it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 So what is wrong with Atkinson if CBJ are moving him straight up for the fan favorite JV? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) The Ristolainen trade is still terrible but this one is a major improvement. Team needed a goal scorer with some grit more than a floating assist machine. Very surprised CLS pulled this trigger. I suppose that they are hoping Vee becomes a setup man for Laine but there's still a lot to get through. I hope Ristolainen brings an improved game under an actual NHL coaching staff. Edited July 24, 2021 by radoran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: Tarsenko for JvR and a B prospect. The money favors St Louis, the production will favor slightly PHI. Or straight up. JvR is a 25/55 guy in a bad year. Last year he was very good 5 v 5 and his play driving was maybe his best season. If we're moving deck chairs and rolling dice...why not? Are you going to bump Allison out the lineup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesesteak Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Philadelphia Flyers Complete My Profile Dismiss Next Step: Optional Profile Information Your profile is 50% complete! Jake Voracek is GONE!!!!!! Rate this topic By OccamsRazor,2 hours ago in Philadelphia Flyers Reply to this topic PREV NEXT Page 1 of 3 OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 2 hours ago Jake Voracek is GONE!!!!!! 1 Quote Replies53 Created2 hr Last Reply1 min OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 2 hours ago Welcome to Philly Cam i have to say i have always like his game...and he always killed the Flyers!!! And some cap space.....just one more year of Cam though. But Jake is gone! REJOICE!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Samifan 2,525 Posted 2 hours ago 2 Quote CoachX 2,187 Posted 2 hours ago DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! 1 Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Samifan said: FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Now Jake is off to the NHL development team!!!!!!!! 1 Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 2 hours ago I guess i am already out of likes for today so i can't like anything else that sucks after this news broke!! 3 Quote Samifan 2,525 Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Now Jake is off to the NHL development team!!!!!!!! Expand I’ll type this one final time: #IHATEJAKE Thank Christ! 1 Quote FD19372 2,414 Posted 1 hour ago More palatable contract for Atkinson...good, hard nosed player who puts the puck in the net here and there....and we GOT RID OF JAKE! What's not to like? I almost feel like the Flyers won something. Honestly. Pop the champagne, indeed! The Voracek Error is over! 3 Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: I guess i am already out of likes for today so i can't like anything else that sucks after this news broke!! Same. But so far I like everything about this. 1 Quote CoachX 2,187 Posted 1 hour ago Edited 1 hour ago by CoachX Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago Anyone in the FHL leagues on here will tell you I'm an Atkinson guy. If this is straight up, I love the hell out of this. I'm actually giddy. 1 Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 1 hour ago Well a new look for now. 28 Claude Giroux - 14 Sean Couturier - 13 Cam Atkinson86 Joel Farabee - 13 Kevin Hayes - 11 Travis Konecny25 James van Riemsdyk - 21 Scott Laughton - 17 Wade Allison23 Oskar Lindblom - 24 Morgan Frost - 62 Nicolas Aube-Kubel9 Ivan Provorov - 94 Ryan Ellis6 Travis Sanheim - 55 Risto Ristolainen 44 Cam York - 61 Justin Braun79 Carter Hart???????? Well the face lift is on going....but Jake is gone!!!! I am happy again!!!!!!! Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago I don't see anything anywhere. Anyone know if this is straight up or did Chuckles send the next 5 1st rounders and 2 seconds just to make sure it's fair? Quote mojo1917 4,593 Posted 1 hour ago definitely seeing a trend, the Flyers are going to be tougher to play against. I like that. I have always liked Atkinson's game, I hope he has good health going forward. 1 Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 1 hour ago OFFICAL!!!! Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: Well a new look for now. 28 Claude Giroux - 14 Sean Couturier - 13 Cam Atkinson86 Joel Farabee - 13 Kevin Hayes - 11 Travis Konecny25 James van Riemsdyk - 21 Scott Laughton - 17 Wade Allison23 Oskar Lindblom - 24 Morgan Frost - 62 Nicolas Aube-Kubel9 Ivan Provorov - 94 Ryan Ellis6 Travis Sanheim - 55 Risto Ristolainen 44 Cam York - 61 Justin Braun79 Carter Hart???????? Well the face lift is on going....but Jake is gone!!!! I am happy again!!!!!!! Expand I don't hate it, but I prefer: Giroux, Couturier, Atkinson Farabee, Hayes, Konecny Lindblom, Frost, Allison JVR, Laughton, NAK/Wisdom/Foerster Provorov/Ellis York/Risto Sanheim/Braun Won't happen my way, so I'm fine with yours. Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Won't happen my way, so I'm fine with yours. I just threw it together i what whatever works. They need to keep the puck out their net first and then put it in the other net. Cam put up 15 goals on a not so good team would have been 5th on Flyers behind Farabee, Coots, JVR and Giroux. I didn't realize that Atkinson was a 40 goal scorer in 2018-19 the last full season. Well this sounds like an upgrade in my mind always loved Cam's hustle for a guy who isn't very big. Quote AlaskaFlyerFan 1,560 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: I don't see anything anywhere. Anyone know if this is straight up or did Chuckles send the next 5 1st rounders and 2 seconds just to make sure it's fair? It was straight up. No picks involved and no retained salary. Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: I just threw it together i what whatever works. They need to keep the puck out their net first and then put it in the other net. Cam put up 15 goals on a not so good team would have been 5th on Flyers behind Farabee, Coots, JVR and Giroux. I didn't realize that Atkinson was a 40 goal scorer in 2018-19 the last full season. Well this sounds like an upgrade in my mind always loved Cam's hustle for a guy who isn't very big. Expand Consider your post liked. Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: It was straight up. No picks involved and no retained salary. Giddy. Giddy, I tell ya! Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Consider your post liked. Consider everyone on this thread liked!!! Quote AlaskaFlyerFan 1,560 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Giddy. Giddy, I tell ya! Giddy about the trade or giddy about being neutered?!? Quote pilldoc 4,158 Posted 1 hour ago Yes!!!!!! Quote OccamsRazor 11,323 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Giddy. Giddy, I tell ya! Me too.... Quote ruxpin 10,932 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: Giddy about the trade or giddy about being neutered?!? Aww. Ya cut me. Ya cut me deep. Real deep. What's your lace count? 1 Quote PREV NEXT Page 1 of 3 Add Files Other Media Max total size: 500 kB Follow topic Submit Reply Share Follow3 Go to topic listing Next unread topic Recently Browsing 7 members Cheesesteak OccamsRazor yave1964 flyer4ever TropicalFruitGirl26 Digityman FD19372 Current Discussions in our NET Recent Posts 7 Flyers traded .... but Captain G is still here Philadelphia FlyersCoachX - Posted 3 minutes ago yeah. clearly im suggesting this with the thought they would be out of the playoff picture if... 52 Jake Voracek is GONE!!!!!! 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radoran Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, flyer4ever said: So what is wrong with Atkinson if CBJ are moving him straight up for the fan favorite JV? Wouldn't surprise me if this is a full teardown in CLS and we see others - Laine, Voracek... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, OccamsRazor said: Are you going to bump Allison out the lineup? Maybe not, maybe he plays his off wing? Also Tarasenko has years of success at the NHL level and Allsion though I like him has games of NHL experience. I think if you can add Vlad and keep the cap about the same, you try to do it. So if this were to happen, I doubt it does, I would push Allison down the depth chart and I wouldn't think twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, mojo1917 said: Maybe not, maybe he plays his off wing? Also Tarasenko has years of success at the NHL level and Allsion though I like him has games of NHL experience. I think if you can add Vlad and keep the cap about the same, you try to do it. So if this were to happen, I doubt it does, I would push Allison down the depth chart and I wouldn't think twice. Honestly, at this point in their careers, I probably stick with JVR over Tarasenko. And I definitely stick with JVR + B prospect + Allison over Tarasenko. I was willing to do it for Voracek, but I'm not as willing to overlook Tarasenko's health on this one. If I was more sure Vlad would play as previous, then yeah, but I really have no confidence there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, CoachX said: If Fletch knew, prior to all of us melting down, that he had the Voracek trade in place, and that the cost for Risto would be picks he didn't need for the Voracek trade, is this good? I don't think so. We still have Risto. Lol IF I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first or last time) and change of scenery and voice helps him be even half of what the Sabres drafted him for, then this whole thing in aggregate is actually masterful. I'll take the Ellis and Atkinson part already, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Glad he is finally outta here....But is that really the best we could do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Mad Dog said: Glad he is finally outta here....But is that really the best we could do? REPORTED! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Mad Dog said: Glad he is finally outta here....But is that really the best we could do? Probably. And I think it's awesome, actually. We didn't give up a pick and we didn't retain. And we got a shooter that plays hard and can help significantly on the PK. And has a lower cap hit. The only downside--and this probably saved having to use a pick--is the longer term. We probably won't be thrilled with this when he's 36. But for now, I'll take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 we are always unhappy and worried about whats going to happen when the guy gets old. let's live in the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: Glad he is finally outta here....But is that really the best we could do? curious, did you have a player/trade in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Samifan said: How does a 32 year old man look 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: How does a 32 year old man look 12? Dont know, but maybe this is an indicator that we won't have to worry about him turning 36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, CoachX said: Dont know, but maybe this is an indicator that we won't have to worry about him turning 36 So his contract is going to last forever, and ever, and ever....? Edited July 24, 2021 by flyercanuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: So his contract is going to last forever, and ever, and ever....? Thanks for The Shining of a light on the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 REDRUM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 So, can we now ...or during the season, swing a Claude Giroux for Cole Caufield and something else trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 the inks not dry on any of these deals yet.... can we just have a moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, CoachX said: REDRUM! I just watched the sequel to that the other night. Dr. Sleep Ewen Mcgregor....talk about a strange movie. I still can't over this move the Blue Jackets even scout Jake. CA is a lunch pail put his nose down will do or try anything forward. Going to love his play....and if he can find his scoring touch this will be outstanding. Is it possible that Chuck called it a night went home and Holmgren new his passwords high jacked Chucks identity and he himself pulled off the Risto trade??? Just the contract between the trades we saw go down is what i am saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, CoachX said: the inks not dry on any of these deals yet.... can we just have a moment? Ok. Time's up. There's your moment. There's still work to be done on this franchise that has greatly underachieved for the past decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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