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for the guys not quite worthy of their own thread                                      Holtby to Dallas. not sure why.

 

Goligoski to the wild one year five million. a bit of an overpay but a solud player

 

Glendening reunited in Dallas with jim nill.

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Dallas coninues to get older signing ryan Suter to a four year deal. I abhor the term but it is the perfect landing spot not as much asked of him with heiskanen and klingberg

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goalie biz...

 

bernier signs with Devils as very capable backup

 

reimer to the sharks as 1B with Adin Hill

 

Vegas signs broissot for some reason to replace MAF

 

Halak the perfect signing for Canucks

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housekeeping on the blueline

 

Savard not surprisingly leaves Bolts for Habs. Bogosian back to Bolts as his replacement.

 

Poolman signs too long of term with Canucks who also bring back Hamonic

 

the headscratcher of the early signings is Boston signing Forbort to a 3 year 10.5 million dollar deal. simply awful

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forward thinking

 

Kraken sign Wennberg decent player would be better if he shot the puck every now and again. good passer but refuses to shoot.

 

GAgner resigned in Detroit. I follow every wings game and almost fogot he was still around. Flippula likely retiring

 

Kuraly signs 4 yr 10 million dollar deal simply awful. he is a columbus boy but my God is that ridiculous for a 4th liner chased out of boston by Lazar

 

Dadonov traded to Vegas as they try to fix their desperate need for rhird line scoring

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Goligoski is interesting on the Wild.
I agree that the money might have been a bit much, but, it could be forgiven if he helps the Wild generate a bit more offense from the blue line...and that DOESN'T mean Goligoski has to necessarily score goals, but simply find open forwards on a rush and make intelligent plays on transition...something the Wild were pretty bad at overall in recent seasons.

Not surpirsed Savard departed, but I am surprised Bogo is back......honestly, and people may laugh, but I would have preferred Luke Schenn over Bogo (Schenn going to Vancouver). I know the Bolts FO only saw Schenn as a spare defenseman, but Schenner is on a two year 850K contract now with Vancouver, while Bogo is on the same for a bit longer term.

I like Schenn's physical play a bit more than Bogo's and I think the skates a bit better....although, and this is where probably the Bolts see things better than I, Bogo may be the better "defensive" option... a bit better positionally and blocks shots better.
At any rate, they are almost the same player, though I prefer Schenn.

And speaking of Schenn, I like the signing for Vancouver as they desperately needed some toughness on that blue line with the decline and apparent departure now of Alex Edler.
Schenn may be a bit exposed on the Canucks more than he was on the Lightning, however, so it will take a total team effort on the part of Vancouver to help out Thatcher (and apparently Jaroslav Halak) in goal.

Jonathan Bernier on NJ is very good.
Berns did a hell of a job behind a very porous Detroit defense, he will be expected to do the same with a just as porous Devil defense.

Ryan Suter in Dallas? Wow.
I thought Chicago, maybe Colorado or St. Louis....MAYBE Winnipeg, but ok.
If Suter can blend in with Dallas, should be fine.

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Wow ...not sure if anyone has posted this yet ...

 

https://www.nhl.com/news/philipp-grubauer-signing-update-news-status/c-325806002

 

Philipp Grubauer signed a six-year, $35.5-million contract with the Seattle Kraken on Wednesday. It has an average annual value of $5.9 million.

 

Did not see this coming ......

 

For those who play FHL ....

 

The Kraken get: a Vezina Trophy contender last year. This, just one week after trotting out Chris Driedger live in front of their fans as their starting goalie. They have a team that is not going to make the playoffs, and they brought in a goalie who may win two or three more games… but not enough to put them over the top. They also get an injury-prone winger with a career high of 62 points. Schwartz is now 29 and coming off a 21-point year (40 games). He had 57 points the year prior. But in Seattle he will lead the offense along with Jordan Eberle, Jared McCann, Yanni Gourde, Calle Jarnkrok, Joonas Donskoi and Colin Blackwell.

Fantasy Players Impacted: The big one here is Grubauer. He went from a top-three fantasy netminder to a Tier 2 or even a Tier 3 own. Not only will the wins be fewer, but if the Kraken don't trade Driedger, then Grubauer will have to fight to play even 50 games.

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Holtby to Dallas ...

 

Holtby, a 31-year-old goalie, signed a one-year, $2 million contract after he had the final season of his two-year, $8.6 million contract ($4.3 million average annual value) contract bought out by the Vancouver Canucks on Wednesday

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32 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

Holtby to Dallas ...

 

Holtby, a 31-year-old goalie, signed a one-year, $2 million contract after he had the final season of his two-year, $8.6 million contract ($4.3 million average annual value) contract bought out by the Vancouver Canucks on Wednesday

 

Let's play a quiz game:

 

what team's GAA will suck @## next year?

A)  Dallas

B)  Dallas

C)  Dallas

D)  When did Chuck Fletcher go to Dallas?

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2 hours ago, yave1964 said:

goalie biz...

 

bernier signs with Devils as very capable backup

 

reimer to the sharks as 1B with Adin Hill

 

Vegas signs broissot for some reason to replace MAF

 

Halak the perfect signing for Canucks

 

4.1 mill is too much for a backup

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2 hours ago, yave1964 said:

 

 

the headscratcher of the early signings is Boston signing Forbort to a 3 year 10.5 million dollar deal. simply awful

 

 

A tad disagree...he's a big shutdown type, who could easily step in with Carlo, and for that contract, it's alright.

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12 minutes ago, Brewin Flames said:

 

 

A tad disagree...he's a big shutdown type, who could easily step in with Carlo, and for that contract, it's alright.

 

Not sure where you get the shutdown part from never been really impressed by him and the King's were sure disappointed in him.

 

Didn't impress with the Flames or Jets a reach here in my opinion.

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Free Agent Frenzy 2021: Day 1 Signings By Team

JULY 28, 2021 AT 11:59 PM CDT | BY GAVIN LEE 

The 2021 offseason saw an incredible amount of player movement before the gates opened in free agency, and it didn’t slow down once players were allowed to sign new contracts. Nearly $800MM in contract dollars were dolled out on day one, with more than 160 players inking new deals. Here are all of the signings from day one of the free agent frenzy, broken down by team. All dollar amounts represent the average annual value at the NHL level.

 

Anaheim Ducks:

F Ryan Getzlaf – One year, $4.5MM
D Brogan Rafferty – One year, $750K

 

Arizona Coyotes: 

F Dmitrij Jaskin – One year, $3.2MM
F Ryan Dzingel – One year, $1.1MM
G Carter Hutton – One year, $750K
F Liam O’Brien – One year, $750K

 

Boston Bruins: 

F Nick Foligno – Two years, $3.8MM
F Erik Haula – Two years, $2.375MM
F Tomas Nosek – Two years, $1.75MM
D Derek Forbort – Three years, $3.0MM
G Linus Ullmark – Four years, $5.0MM
F Samuel Asselin – Two years, $750K
F Steven Fogarty – One year, $750K
D Tyler Lewington – One year, $750K
G Troy Grosenick – One year, $750K

 

Buffalo Sabres:

G Craig Anderson – One year, $750K
F Vinnie Hinostroza – One year, $1.05MM
F/D Mark Pysyk – One year, $900K
F Sean Malone – One year, $750K
D Jimmy Schuldt – One year, $750K
D Brandon Davidson – One year, $750K
G Aaron Dell – One year, $750K

 

Calgary Flames:

F Blake Coleman – Six years, $4.9MM
F Trevor Lewis – One year, $800K
D Kevin Gravel – One year, $750K
D Nick DeSimone – One year, $750K
G Adam Werner – One year, $750K

 

Carolina Hurricanes: 

F Jordan Martinook – Three years, $1.8MM
F Josh Leivo – One year, $750K
D Ian Cole – One year, $2.9MM
D Anthony DeAngelo – One year, $1.0MM
G Frederik Andersen – Two years, $4.5MM
G Antti Raanta – Two years, $2.0MM
F C.J. Smith – One year, $750K

 

Chicago Blackhawks:

F Jujhar Khaira – Two years, $975K
D Seth Jones – Eight years, $9.5MM*
D Jake McCabe – Four years, $4.0MM

 

Colorado Avalanche: 

D Roland McKeown – One year, $750K

 

Columbus Blue Jackets:

F Patrik Laine – One year, $7.5MM
F Boone Jenner – Four years, $3.75MM*
F Sean Kuraly – Four years, $2.5MM
F Eric Robinson – Two years, $1.6MM*
F Alexandre Texier – Two years, $1.525MM
F Tyler Sikura – One year, $750K
D Gavin Bayreuther – Two years, $750K

 

Dallas Stars: 

F Luke Glendening – Two years, $1.5MM
D Ryan Suter – Four years, $3.65MM
G Braden Holtby – One year, $2.0MM
D Alex Petrovic – One year, $750K
D Andreas Borgman – One year, $750K

 

Detroit Red Wings:

F Pius Suter – Two years, $3.25MM
F Jordan Oesterle – Two years, $1.35MM
F Sam Gagner – One year, $850K
G Calvin Pickard – One year, $800K

 

Edmonton Oilers:

F Zach Hyman – Seven years, $5.5MM
F Derek Ryan – Two years, $1.25MM
D Tyson Barrie – Three years, $4.5MM
D Cody Ceci – Four years, $3.25MM

 

Florida Panthers: 

F Carter Verhaeghe – Three years, $4.17MM*
F Maxim Mamin – One year, $975K
F Juho Lammikko – One year, $750K
G Christopher Gibson – One year, $750K

 

Los Angeles Kings: 

F Phillip Danault – Six years, $5.5MM
F Andreas Athanasiou – One year, $2.7MM
D Alexander Edler – One year, $3.5MM
F T.J. Tynan – One year, $750K
G Garrett Sparks – One year, $750K

 

Minnesota Wild: 

F Frederick Gaudreau – Two years, $1.2MM
D Alex Goligoski – One year, $5.0MM
D Dmitry Kulikov – Two years, $2.25MM
F Dominic Turgeon – One year, $750K
D Jon Lizotte – One year, $750K
D Joe Hicketts – Two years, $750K

 

Montreal Canadiens:

F Mike Hoffman – Three years, $4.5MM
F Cedric Paquette – One year, $950K
D David Savard – Four years, $3.5MM
D Chris Wideman – One year, $750K
F Jean-Sebastien Dea – One year, $750K
D Louis Belpedio – One year, $750K

 

Nashville Predators: 

F Mikael Granlund – Four years, $5.0MM
G David Rittich – One year, $1.25MM
F Zachary L’Heureaux – Three years, $925K**
F Michael McCarron – Two years, $750K
F Anthony Richard – One year, $750K
F Matt Luff – One year, $750K
D Matt Tennyson – Two years, $750K

 

New Jersey Devils:

D Dougie Hamilton – Seven years, $9.0MM
G Jonathan Bernier – Two years, $4.125MM
F Brian Flynn – One year, $750K
F Chase De Leo – One year, $750K

 

New York Islanders:

(None)

 

New York Rangers: 

D Patrik Nemeth – Three years, $2.5MM
D Jarred Tinordi – Two years, $900K
F Dryden Hunt – Two years, $763K 
F Greg McKegg – One year, $750K

 

Ottawa Senators: 

D Michael Del Zotto – Two years, $2.0MM
F Andrew Agozzino – On year, $800K

 

Philadelphia Flyers: 

F Nate Thompson – One year, $800K
D Keith Yandle – One year, $900K
G Martin Jones – One year, $2.0MM
F Ryan Fitzgerald – One year, $750K
F Gerald Mayhew – One year, $800K
D Cooper Zech – Two years, $838K**
D Adam Clendening – One year, $750K
D Nick Seeler – One year, $750K

 

Pittsburgh Penguins: 

F Brock McGinn – Four years, $2.75MM
F Evan Rodrigues – One year, $1.0MM
F Dominik Simon – One year, $750K
D Taylor Fedun – One year, $750K
G Filip Lindberg – Two years, $925K**

 

San Jose Sharks: 

F Nick Bonino – Two years, $2.05MM
F Andrew Cogliano – One year, $1.0MM
G James Reimer – Two years, $2.25MM
F Lane Pederson – Two years, $750K
F Nick Merkley – One year, $750K
D Jaycob Megna – One year, $750K

 

Seattle Kraken:

F Jaden Schwartz – Five years, $5.5MM
F Alexander Wennberg – Three years, $4.5MM
G Philipp Grubauer – Six years, $5.9MM

 

St. Louis Blues: 

(None)

 

Tampa Bay Lightning:

F Brayden Point – Eight years, $9.5MM*
F Pierre-Edouard Bellemare – Two years, $1.0MM
D Zach Bogosian – Three years, $850K
G Brian Elliott – One year, $900K
F Gabriel Dumont – One year, $750K
F Remi Elie – One year, $750K
F Charles Hudon – One year, $750K
D Darren Raddysh – One year, $750K
D Andrej Sustr – One year, $750K
G Maxime Lagace – One year, $750K

 

Toronto Maple Leafs:

F David Kampf – Two years, $1.5MM
F Michael Bunting – Two years, $950K
F Kurtis Gabriel – One year, $750K
G Petr Mrazek – Three years, $3.8MM
F Michael Amadio – One year, $750K
D Carl Dahlstrom – One year, $750K
D Alex Biega – One year, $750K

 

Vancouver Canucks:

F Brandon Sutter – One year, $1.125MM
F Justin Dowling – Two years, $750K
D Travis Hamonic – Two years, $3.0MM
D Tucker Poolman – Four years, $2.5MM
D Luke Schenn – Two years, $850K
D Brad Hunt – One year, $800K
D Brady Keeper – Two years, $763K
G Jaroslav Halak – One year, $1.5MM (+$1.5MM performance bonuses)
F Danila Klimovich – Three years, $887K**
F Justin Bailey – One year, $750K

F Sheldon Dries – One year, $750K
F Phillip Di Giuseppe – One year, $750K
F Nicolas Petan – One year, $750K
D Kyle Burroughs – Two years, $750K
D Devante Stephens – One year, $750K

 

Vegas Golden Knights:

F Mattias Janmark – One year, $2.0MM
F Patrick Brown – Two years, $750K
D Alec Martinez – Three years, $5.25MM
G Laurent Brossoit – Two years, $2.325MM
F Sven Baertschi – One year, $750K
F Gage Quinney – One year, $750K

 

Washington Capitals:

D Dylan McIlrath – Two years, $750K
D Lucas Johansen – One year, $750K
D Matt Irwin – One year, $750K
G Hunter Shepard – Two years, $750K

 

Winnipeg Jets:

F Michael Eyssimont – Two years, $750K
F Luke Johnson – One year, $750K

*Extension starting in 2022-23
**Entry-level contract
Indicates two-way deal

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21 hours ago, Brewin Flames said:

 

 

A tad disagree...he's a big shutdown type, who could easily step in with Carlo, and for that contract, it's alright.

 

I agree with you as well.

Forbort is your typical big nasty throwback type defender.
When he messes up, it is easy to criticize and point out his flaws.
However, when he is laying people out (or you simply DON'T hear his name called too much), in his case, that is a GOOD thing......... kinda like Braden Coburn.

Those types of players are either leaving bodies on the ice or going about their game so nondescriptly, one doesn't notice they are doing a reasonable job.
If you keep hearing their names, it usually means they are ^%$#ing up throughout the contest :bigteeth: 

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Looking over at what Vancouver has been doing....man...

I KNEW they needed a defensive makeover, and to that end, they signed and/or moved out a few.
They DO look like they may be tougher to play against from a physical standpoint, but at the same time, I can see many of those guys being defensive LIABILITIES on a techincal level.

Vancouver goalies are gonna see LOTS of rubber this year....

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And here, you see WHY some people should just stick to their mickey mouse podcasts and not try posting their "sports news" across the web as a major headline.

A partial screen shot from my desktop homepage newsfeed.

Note the NY Ranger "headline" in the upper left.
Yep....ol swingman Reaves.

As @Podein25 had pointed out in the chatbox, "guy can't even skate backwards" :bigteeth: 

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Ok let's rate those Stars roster movements:

 

Oleksiak to Kraken

Predictable. However they turned down a previous Jets' offer for him and now they lost both Oleksiak and the Dick for only a third pick. Wonderful management. F

 

Ryan Suter

Back at the time they selected the wrong Lundqvist, now they picked the wrong Suter. 4-yr contract = facepalm. At $3.6M AAV = double facepalm. with a full NMC = triple facepalm. He still might be useful on the second PP unit but the objective was to find a young big physical D-man capable to support the offense. Not the exact opposite. Hate the signing, especially with Klingberg looking for a new contract next season. D-

 

Brayden Holtby

Nice move to show how the management fully trust Öttinger. With Colton Point re-signing, now they have a full fifth line with only goalies. Oh wait... D

 

Glendening/Raffl

Some warm bodies additions just to show how the coach was happy with Caamano, Gardner, L'Espérance and Dell'Andrea. C+

 

Hakenpää

Well, I like this one more. Not a big signing but at least a good fit at a low price for the third D pair. B

 

Now I think the Stars have the perfect team to tank and sell Pavelski, Radulov and Khudobin at the trade deadline. I mean at least let's lose them for something.

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8 hours ago, Math said:

Ok let's rate those Stars roster movements:

 

Oleksiak to Kraken

Predictable. However they turned down a previous Jets' offer for him and now they lost both Oleksiak and the Dick for only a third pick. Wonderful management. F

 

Ryan Suter

Back at the time they selected the wrong Lundqvist, now they picked the wrong Suter. 4-yr contract = facepalm. At $3.6M AAV = double facepalm. with a full NMC = triple facepalm. He still might be useful on the second PP unit but the objective was to find a young big physical D-man capable to support the offense. Not the exact opposite. Hate the signing, especially with Klingberg looking for a new contract next season. D-

 

Brayden Holtby

Nice move to show how the management fully trust Öttinger. With Colton Point re-signing, now they have a full fifth line with only goalies. Oh wait... D

 

Glendening/Raffl

Some warm bodies additions just to show how the coach was happy with Caamano, Gardner, L'Espérance and Dell'Andrea. C+

 

Hakenpää

Well, I like this one more. Not a big signing but at least a good fit at a low price for the third D pair. B

 

Now I think the Stars have the perfect team to tank and sell Pavelski, Radulov and Khudobin at the trade deadline. I mean at least let's lose them for something.

 

Perhaps the Stars are trying to figure out a way to "move on" without Klingberg? Maybe they don't want to sign him and prefer to get some sort of return for him during the season?
Hence the assortment of different type defensemen they have or have signed....almost like you have no two alike. Could be an advantage.

In the meantime, maybe they try treading water in a division that, outside of Colorado, really doesn't look that powerful at all, as they try and see how some young bodies in the minors could be worked in. Having that many veterans surely means SOMEONE is gonna need IR time.

But to me, the biggest thing with Dallas is their playstyle, or rather, the COACHED playstyle.
It was always a headscratcher to me why a team with Seguin, Benn, Radulov, Heiskanen, Klingberg, even Gurianov and Lindell if properly used on offense, are asked to play such a heavy defensive game when it would seem to be better to just turn them loose, even at the cost of some defense.

I'd like to see a change in coaching or playing philosophy that just lets some of those boys do what they do.....team now has some decent 'stay at home' types on the blue line and Khudobin and even Oettinger have shown themselves to be sharp, so they could deal with a bit of defensive adversity...meanwhile the team actually **gasp** SCORES more goals!

Arizona, Minnesota....not exactly "stiff competition".
Nashville, even St. Louis looks like they've taken steps backwards.
Who knows what you will get from Chicago or Winnipeg.
Colorado is the team to beat.....so, yea, the Stars may be right there in the top 4 and more a more exciting product if the offense is allowed to be, well, offensive.

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Finally we had to wait a bit to get a terrible signing, Nurse with 8 years at $9.5M AAV. First I was wondering if it was in another currency than USD, then this makes look the Makar deal a real bargain.

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On 8/3/2021 at 9:50 PM, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

Perhaps the Stars are trying to figure out a way to "move on" without Klingberg?

 

{Both hands on my ears} LALALALALALAAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALA.

 

On 8/3/2021 at 9:50 PM, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

But to me, the biggest thing with Dallas is their playstyle, or rather, the COACHED playstyle.
It was always a headscratcher to me why a team with Seguin, Benn, Radulov, Heiskanen, Klingberg, even Gurianov and Lindell if properly used on offense, are asked to play such a heavy defensive game when it would seem to be better to just turn them loose, even at the cost of some defense

 

Right in the middle of the bull, 100 points for you. Bowness is a 90's defense-first coach, and you can really feel guys like Gurianov and Heiskanen are kinda tight to this system. Are they pissed? We'll know after next season. Problem is, they are not sufficiently bad to scrap it and change the coach/philosophy. 

 

What is strange is this 180° turnaround during the 2020 playoffs, more specifically since game #4 vs. Calgary where they were about to trail 3-1 in the series. From that point it was all offense, the series vs. Colorado and Vegas was crazy, guys were flying, even Lindell scored in breakaways and Comeau managed to """"""contribute"""""".  Unreal and enjoyable. And it worked. So this roster with this coach can play that type of game. For the new season, back to the original with a boring mindset and system. Ok the team was depleted with injuries, you had to adapt to this but still. Sometimes I miss the Ruff days where it was: "screw that, rush all the way and we'll see what happens". 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Puck_Pun said:

With this news, what team do you think he'd end up going to? 

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As is usually the case with the Senators, it will likely come down to what kind of foresight ownership has.

The way things stand now, Tkachuk can be part of a very good, very skilled core, especially up front, if he stays.
I like the talent they have there.... Batherson, Norris, Brown, Stutzle, along with Tkachuk on the forward ranks... Chabot, Brannstrom, and Mete on defense.

The team will need some more guys with sandpaper and grit....sort of in the mold of Austin Watson and Nick Paul that they already have, but perhaps younger to be viable long term. Nick Ritchie at just 25 would have been a real good signing for Ottawa, but unfortunately, the Leafs signed him first.

And maybe the team looks into getting a guy that would eventually be the long term goalie as I am not sure if Matt Murray can be that guy for them in about 2 or 3 seasons when this team should be really good.

Sens have a crap ton of cap space...in fact, they need to spend MORE to get to the floor still!
Definitely lots to work with and develop, but I am guessing Tkachuk has to be convinced ownership won't screw this up too.

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1 hour ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

I am not sure if Matt Murray can be that guy for them in about 2 or 3 seasons

Or even this coming season.  I don't like him; I don't think he's the guy.

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