flyercanuck Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Has anyone on our team ever taken one before. I didn't think we could be worse than last year, but it sure looks like we are. WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's pretty bad when Talbot is our best faceoff guy....That is going to have to change and fast.Maybe SJ will throw us Joe Pavelski..... Ok not going to happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlfly Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's looked like historically Flyers are bad in face off for at least last 5-6 years, I remember. They need a face off coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Clarke might have some tips you'd think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's pretty bad when Talbot is our best faceoff guy....And even *he* was chewed up by Roy all night long. I can see our inability to win faceoffs as being a major problem down the road... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Ah, see your missing the face-off beast. Jeff Carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Ah, see your missing the face-off beast.Jeff CarterReported! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We all know that face-off percentages can be improved somewhat by practices. Maybe Flyers could give some old pro a few bucks for some lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Who was the Flyers last Faceoff Beast? Aside from Carter, I cannot remember one for the last 5 years or so. Brindy was good, Premeau?Wow... Blocker is right, they can get an old Salt in there to teach these kids how to win a damn faceoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 "Wow... Blocker is right"Jeez...Don't act so surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Maybe SJ will throw us Joe Pavelski..... Ok not going to happen...He was actually a Flyers draft pick that got traded away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent05 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I missed the Brindy and Lindros days, they were the one of the best at FO. These guys need to practice it every darn day, even on game days. We rarely score off of faceoffs anymore. Seeing other teams do it to us more often and it pisses me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 G seemed to be the only one winning FO"s tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 "Wow... Blocker is right"Jeez...Don't act so surprised.That came out wrong Blocker.It was supposed to be like WOW....(the Flyers are bad at faceoffs)...... Blocker is right in the respect of getting somebody to teach these kids how to take a draw.Hey their (Flyers) new thing is just falling on the puck during the faceoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 He was actually a Flyers draft pick that got traded away!Interesting, I did not know that.Imagine that, our weakness is a strength on another team......typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I missed the Brindy and Lindros days, they were the one of the best at FO. These guys need to practice it every darn day, even on game days. We rarely score off of faceoffs anymore. Seeing other teams do it to us more often and it pisses me off.Maybe lindros can hang around for a few weeks after the WC... Have a face off school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 He was actually a Flyers draft pick that got traded away! Joe PavelskiCenterBorn Jul 11 1984 -- Stevens Point, WIHeight 5.11 -- Weight 195 -- Shoots RSelected by San Jose Sharks round 7 #205 overall 2003 NHL Entry Draft(sorry Oz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Only one trade from the Sharks is mentioned above, and it was the one where we traded them the pick that gave them Joe Pavelski and eventually led to Oskars Bartulis. http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2011/7/28/2302112/the-flyers-current-roster-historyWhile we're at it, then, this next chart is simply a list of notable active players taken since 1996 with picks that were at some point owned by the Flyers--not necessarily ones that played into the roster today, but ones we dealt regardless. ("Original Pick?" means whether or not the pick was one that belonged to the Flyers from the start or not.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 OK, I read your post as a pick we made and traded, but your scenario makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Has anyone on our team ever taken one before. I didn't think we could be worse than last year, but it sure looks like we are. WTF?Apparently the answer is "No, nobody in the O&B can win draws, not individually and not as a team."We're dead fkng last in the NHL! ****. I knew we were bad but I didn't realize we were bringing up the rear. 30th out of 30 teams in FO%. That's embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's pathetic. The Flyers, for the longest time, were a strong faceoff team. It's hard to imagine having the depth at forward we've had over the last 5 years or so, and being so poor at faceoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 You have to factor in Briere's absense for a few games, which brough the overall faceoff winning % down.But let's face it: we knew before the season even started that we were getting weak at center position and faceoffs are no exception. That's why I was sort of hoping for Jason Arnott. Not sure for how much he signed with the Blues. The guy can still play.It never ceases to amaze me how Homer can fixate on one thing that needs an obvious improvement but do it at the expense of 100 other things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 would've been nice to snag Konopka who the Sens got for a song - $700K.But why are we so bad? And we seem to specialize in losing them clean. Drives me insane. We get a key PP opportunity and spend the first 20 chasing the puck the length of the ice.Why aren't guys scrambling harder on the draws? They're not - obviously. If it was a bad stretch of games, or limited to a few guys fine. But the Flyers have been a mediocre (at best) FO team the past few years and nobody can figure out why... One of the best in the business - ever - still goes into the office every day...I remember hearing he worked with some of the guys on the ice a few years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersMKD Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I know winning faceoffs is important part of the game, especially in the playoffs when the games are tighter but if you look at it from a stats point of view its not that bad eventhough the Flyers are last in the league with 46% winning percentage. The first team in this category is Boston with 53% but look where Boston is in the standings. Plus that difference of first to last is 7% which in a game translates to 5-10 more faceoff wins.Anyway, the frustration after a game like the one with Buffalo is totaly justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 yah that's a good point - the difference in the numbers, the percentages is never very much. OTOH those 5-10 wins translate into precious minutes of lost possession time, especially on the PP where we're forced to go the length of the ice to retrieve the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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