hf101 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Pronger feeling better, won't play till next Friday.Jagr out till Friday as well.Lilja out 6 weeks with high ankle sprainJVR out tomorrowEdit: anyone think Pronger could have mono? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishjim Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 o darn no lijia for a month and a half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 At least Lilja can go on IR to allow space for a call up. Wonder who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 o darn no lijia for a month and a halflooks like i'll get my wish and see if marc-andre can play in the NHL... too bad Gustavsson is on the rack this would be a good time to get him some starts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 At least Lilja can go on IR to allow space for a call up. Wonder who?Does anyone know the actual IR rules (different from LTIR)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Actually Lilja can go on LTIR because he will be out at least 24 days or 10 games. i didn't think of LTIR when writing my post. IR and LTIR are basically the same, just differ in how teams can go about replacing the player. Both IR and LTIR players are not on the active roster.A player on IR is short-term (must remain on IR for 7 days, can be retroactive) and can't have his salary replaced by a player called up or acquired.LTIR is for players who will sit out at least 10 games or 24 days. These players can have their cap salary replaced while they are injured, which also allows teams to exceed the cap by 10% in order to allow a team right against the cap to be able to deal with injuries.There's a common misconception that LTIR allows teams to "bank" cap space. Not true. Injured players have their salary count fully against the cap, regardless of the term of their injury. The only way to save money on the cap with an injured player is to have that player injured for the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 What happened to Lilja? I must have totally missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I believe it happened in the third period, Lilja stumbled over one of their forwards and fell along the boards behind bob's net.I just read on csnphilly.com where TP states Lilja has a knee sprain. Thats what it looked like on the tv, but holmgren said high anlke sprain......oh well one of them is more right than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 TP states Lilja has a knee sprain. Thats what it looked like on the tv, but holmgren said high anlke sprain......oh well one of them is more right than the other.I would bank on the General Manager (Paul Holmgren) being dialed into a players injury more so than a beat writer (especially TP).Although, it would not be the first time a GM bullshit about an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I believe it happened in the third period, Lilja stumbled over one of their forwards and fell along the boards behind bob's net.I just read on csnphilly.com where TP states Lilja has a knee sprain. Thats what it looked like on the tv, but holmgren said high anlke sprain......oh well one of them is more right than the other. ....or one is more truthful than the other.....with the flyers general penchant for non disclosure on injuries, I might believe TP over homer there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 @hf101There's a common misconception that LTIR allows teams to "bank" cap space. Not true. Injured players have their salary count fully against the cap, regardless of the term of their injury. The only way to save money on the cap with an injured player is to have that player injured for the entire seasonProbably need Aziz's knowledge here, but I'm not sure that's 100% true...I think you get a prorated/credited amount for players on LTIR on a daily basis, even if they are not out for the season. Example..Crosby-the Pens got some type of relief for him missing 2 months, but I can't recall how it's calculated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Actually Lilja can go on LTIR because he will be out at least 24 days or 10 games. i didn't think of LTIR when writing my post. IR and LTIR are basically the same, just differ in how teams can go about replacing the player. Both IR and LTIR players are not on the active roster.A player on IR is short-term (must remain on IR for 7 days, can be retroactive) and can't have his salary replaced by a player called up or acquired.LTIR is for players who will sit out at least 10 games or 24 days. These players can have their cap salary replaced while they are injured, which also allows teams to exceed the cap by 10% in order to allow a team right against the cap to be able to deal with injuries.There's a common misconception that LTIR allows teams to "bank" cap space. Not true. Injured players have their salary count fully against the cap, regardless of the term of their injury. The only way to save money on the cap with an injured player is to have that player injured for the entire season.What about the cap hits of signed players? I think LTIR means any signings count 100% against the cap, but I'm not sure about IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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