Brewin Flames Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Bolts get Brandon Hagel and 2 4th rounders Blackhawks get Iwo 1st round picks and 2 roster players @frank_seravalli More details, per sources: To #GoBolts: Brandon Hagel, two 4th round picks To #Blackhawks: Two 1st round picks, two active NHL players from Lightning (details TBD, players being notified). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Seems the players going back to Chicago are Boris Katchouk and Taylor Raddysh. Hate to see those guys go, but they were developing a bit too slowly for the Bolts' liking. They are both mid to large sized guys with skill, but with TB seeking a third straight Cup, they don't have time to continue to wait on them. I don't know a ton about Hagel, but based on his numbers, at just 23 years old, he looks exactly like what the Bolts need, offensively, to help jumpstart and ultimately compliment their big three up front of Stamkos, Point, and Kucherov. In fact, Hagel has outproduced the combined efforts of Raddysh and Katchouk to this point. More first rounders traded away by the Champs, which has become the norm. Fortunately for the team, they have one of the best scouting and development teams in the league, and they have a penchant for finding 1st and 2nd round quality players in Rounds 3,4, or 5. Good luck to Raddysh and Katchouk. Have been following them pretty closely the last couple seasons hoping they'd turn out to be the productive power forwards they were projected to be (still might....what Chicago is banking on). With the Hawks, as they rebuild, they will have more time to find their strides each. Welcome to Hockey Bay, USA Brandon Hagel! Edited March 18, 2022 by TropicalFruitGirl26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I can see the logic for the Lightning here I guess, going for their 3rd cup, but man that seems like a huge payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: I can see the logic for the Lightning here I guess, going for their 3rd cup, but man that seems like a huge payment. It's what top contenders do every year to stay on top, I guess. Isn't that what Detroit did for about 20 years, winning multiple Cups along the way? Trade away draft picks, multiple young players for just the right players to compliment their main core? It was said years ago that Steve Yzerman would build the Lightning in the mold of those winning Red Wings and that he did. Current GM Julien Brisbois is simply following that blueprint. Hagel IS kinda shooting above average at around 20 plus percent, but even if he comes back down to average, he is still a sniper, only 23 and has two more years after this season at 1.5M per. Huge for a team like the Bolts who face cap hell every year now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said: It's what top contenders do every year to stay on top, I guess. Isn't that what Detroit did for about 20 years, winning multiple Cups along the way? Trade away draft picks, multiple young players for just the right players to compliment their main core? It was said years ago that Steve Yzerman would build the Lightning in the mold of those winning Red Wings and that he did. Current GM Julien Brisbois is simply following that blueprint. Hagel IS kinda shooting above average at around 20 plus percent, but even if he comes back down to average, he is still a sniper, only 23 and has two more years after this season at 1.5M per. Huge for a team like the Bolts who face cap hell every year now. Don't worry TFG...I'd trade all our prospects and 10 years of draft picks for ONE cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewin Flames Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Trade: Lightning package to Blackhawks for Hagel includes two first-rounders By James O'Brien Mar 18, 2022, 3:15 PM EDT Chase Agnello-Dean/NHLI via Getty Images Yes, Lightning evoke Coleman, Goodrow additions with Hagel trade Some might have thought of the Lightning acquiring Blake Coleman/Barclay Goodrow when the Flames landed Calle Järnkrok. Nah, leave it to the Lightning to parallel their past more faithfully. The Lightning paid big (first-rounders, a prospect like Nolan Foote) to land both Goodrow and Coleman. But those two players weren’t mere rentals. Coleman gave the Lightning two seasons of quality play at a cheap $1.8M cap hit; the Flames would go on to give him big term and almost $5M per year. Goodrow added to Tampa Bay’s depth at less than $1M, and now takes home more than $3.6M per year from the Rangers. So, the Lightning are adding a piece who is a nice supplementary player, whose dirt-cheap contract fits their salary cap needs, and hopefully, one who is worth a lot more than $1.5M. You know, like Goodrow and especially Coleman. A stylistic match, too. Also fitting the Goodrow/Coleman comparison: Hagel brings a physical element to the Lightning as a strong forechecker. Does all of that translate to being worth a couple interesting prospects and two first-rounders? Maybe not for most franchises, but it’s an easy idea to sell for the Lightning, who are hoping to “three-peat.” Hagel, 23, scored 21 goals and 37 points through 55 games this season. Considering his 22.3 shooting percentage, the Lightning may want to temper expectations about his scoring punch. (His greater offensive strength may be passing, anyway.) Overall, he seems primed to make a strong team deeper, at both a cheap (salary cap) and expensive (draft capital) rate. A tremendous boost to a should-be rebuild for the Blackhawks Before resigning in disgrace, Stan Bowman threw some Hail Mary attempts to keep his Blackhawks GM gig, including burning through rebuild resources (and future cap space) with the Seth Jones contract and extension. That Seth Jones trade still costs the Blackhawks either their 2022 or 2023 first-rounder. So, getting maximum value for Brandon Hagel helps push that rebuild back on track (protected first-rounders or not). Did the Blackhawks really not want to trade Hagel, or did they cleverly fuel that opinion to maximize the return? Either way, this is absolutely brilliant work. Naturally, it’s up to the Blackhawks to make the most of those first-rounders from the Lightning. Though they’re top-10 protected, it’s also interesting to roll the dice on some Lightning slippage. Between the age and mileage on that roster, and a challenging top of the Atlantic Division, who knows? Beyond actually using those picks, such draft capital could also be useful in trades to land more immediate roster options. Could Katchouk and/or Raddysh help the Blackhawks? So, what about Boris Katchouk and Taylor Raddysh, beyond having fun names to say? Here’s a quick rundown. The Lightning took both with 2016 second-round picks. Katchouk, 23, was the 44th pick of the 2016 NHL Draft; Raddysh, 24, went 14 picks later at 58. Raddysh and Katchouk were experiencing their first seasons with the Lightning. Raddysh generated 12 points in 53 games, averaging 11:03 TOI. Katchouk scored six points in 38 games, logging 9:49 per night. While their upside seems limited, each may have potential to be decent forechecking depth players. And maybe slightly more than that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Two first rounders ?!? Folks in Tampa, let me try your stuff, seems like good weed! Make it turn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said: Isn't that what Detroit did for about 20 years, winning multiple Cups along the way? Trade away draft picks, multiple young players for just the right players to compliment their main core? Yes. A the biggest key is HITTING ON these moves. If you miss it can be disastrous. Seem to be what has happened to the Flyers. Wings have nailed it. The Lightning nailed it. We are about to see if the Panthers, Avs and Flames have. There can be only one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewin Flames Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 Major Update in a Trade Between the Lightning and the Blackhawks APR 30, 2023 (16H58) AARON The Brandon Hagel trade shocked everybody. Sending two firsts over for a middle-six winger seemed crazy. The jury has changed its mind, however. Trade Completed Like almost any trade involving a first round pick, there were conditions. Of course, however, the Lightning were playoff bound both seasons, but they were eliminated in the first round this year. Thus, the 20th overall pick will be sent to the Blackhawks in the Brandon Hagel trade. #Blackhawks get the 20th OA pick from the Brandon Hagel trade since Tampa lost to Toronto in the 1st round. #2023NHLDraft If the Florida Panthers win tonight, (which they did) this pick will actually go up to 19th overall. In such a stacked draft, this is a great deal for the Blackhawks! We will have to wait and see who they take with this valuable slot. If the Lightning continue to falter, the Hawks could get an even higher slot in 2024, as they equally own the Lightning's first there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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