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2022 NHL Draft - Flyers Version (#5 Overall)


2022 NHL Draft - Flyers Version  

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  1. 1. Updated Question. Flyers are now drafting #5 overall. Who do you want?

    • Juraj Slafkovsky -TPS (Liiga) (Slovakia)- LW / C / RW
      5
    • Simon Nemec -HK Nitra (Slovakia) - RHD
      1
    • Logan Cooley - USDP (United States) - C (NOTE: Committed to Univ. Minn.)
      2
    • Matthew Savoie - Winnipeg (WHL - Canada) - C
      9
    • Joakim Kemell - JYP (Liiga) (Finland) - RW
      0
    • David Jiricek - HC Plzen (Czech) - RHD
      1
    • Connor Geekie - Winnipeg (WHL - Canada) - C
      1
    • Other?
      1
    • BPA (Best Player Available)
      4


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So it sounds like it's pretty much a done deal...amirite?

If Matthew Savoie is still sitting on the board at #5 the Flyers better grab him. 

There are always surprises and disappointments when projecting 18 year olds into men. Let's cross our fingers chuckles gets it right.

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Maybe the Jersey Douche bags pick the Nolan Patrick of the draft and by the strangest of coincidences the Cale Makar falls to Philly. Or, Chuckie trades the pick for another 30 yr old with a big contract and a chronic condition. 

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51 minutes ago, Toronto Jules said:

If Matthew Savoie is still sitting on the board at #5 the Flyers better grab him. 

Dumb And Dumber So You're Telling Me There's A Chance Gif -  dierenambulanceverhalen

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1 hour ago, MaineFlyFan said:

God I hate the New Jersey Devils!!!.....

WTF…..

Devils picking #2 ….. new darlings of the NHL….. #%^^}%

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52 minutes ago, FireDillabaugh said:

Absolutely agree. 

Double agree…. He is my pick I want…. Size be damned…..

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23 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

Double agree…. He is my pick I want…. Size be damned…..

Yup.  Hoping the Devils take the big skating project that is Slafkovsky.  And the two good players in Cooley and Nemec go to the West to Arizona and Seattle in whichever order.  Leaving Savoie there for the taking.  Unfortunately, with Chuck-in-charge, even if it falls together like that for them, he'll probably find some way to screw it up and make yet another mistake.

 

Exactly this mock situation:

https://www.tankathon.com/nhl/mock_draft

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10 minutes ago, Toronto Jules said:

Other than Shane Wright, I think Matthew Savoie is the best in the draft. 

Debatable.  But, he does fulfill some huge needs the Flyers have if they're able to grab him.

 

Many agree that Cooley is #2, and would probably be #1 if Wright didn't improve his game A LOT.  And I believe Nemec is going to be a good defenseman in the league.  Don't want to see either player going to the Devils.

 

Slafkovsky shouldn't be a top 5 pick, imo.  He has some skill.  But, he's a big body that needs a lot of work on his skating.  And, it's the type of player that's having difficulties at the NHL level presently.  So, wouldn't mind seeing Fitzgerald make the mistake and taking the big project at #2 instead of Cooley, and seeing Cooley and Nemec head out West instead of onto a Met division opponent.

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2 hours ago, Toronto Jules said:

If Matthew Savoie is still sitting on the board at #5 the Flyers better grab him. 

Pretty confident he will be. Only way he isn't imo is if none of the top 4 want a D man and pass on Nemec. Savoie imo is the 4th best fprward and the 6th best player. 

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Obviously sucks that the devils won the lottery for the 2nd overall. But, now that it's happened, it makes it interesting. Cooley is the clear cut number 2. Devils have Hischier and Hughes down the middle. They are not going to take Cooley, meaning Arizona gets him at 3 or they trade the pick. If they pick, they will go for Slavfkovsky....Savoie, I believe, will be there at 5. But I'm not overly confident in them making the right choice. Well probably end up with the other defender jiricek.

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2 hours ago, ctid said:

Obviously sucks that the devils won the lottery for the 2nd overall. But, now that it's happened, it makes it interesting. Cooley is the clear cut number 2. Devils have Hischier and Hughes down the middle. They are not going to take Cooley, meaning Arizona gets him at 3 or they trade the pick. If they pick, they will go for Slavfkovsky....Savoie, I believe, will be there at 5. But I'm not overly confident in them making the right choice. Well probably end up with the other defender jiricek.

 

Above was written in a "Im on my way to work, its early, and Im pissed that the Flyers lucked out in the lottery"

 

Should be interesting to see what the Devils do. Still dont believe they pick Cooley, unless they want to frontload the middle like the pens did with Crosby, Malkin, Staal. Outside Wright, Cooley, Slavkovsky, I want the Flyers to pick Savoie. But Im afraid the two defenders or an outlier like Geekie (Size) or Kemmel will be the pick.

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Here is my mock:

 

1. Montreal Canadiens: Shane Wright, C, Kingston (OHL):  Wright is highly likely to become a very good NHL player and a first-line centerman, and a good enough player to help the Habs build a one-two punch at center.

 

2. New Jersey Devils: Juraj Slafkovsky, LW, Tps (FINLAND): The Devils have their top-six center depth thanks to two previous No. 1 overall picks in Nico Hischier and Jack Hughes. With the second overall pick, New Jersey has options. Hopefully they will be enticed by Slafkovsky.  Slafkovsky’s size and physical edge makes him arguably one of the more dominant players in this draft — especially coming right out of the draft. There are some small holes in his game like his skating.

 

3. Arizona Coyotes: Logan Cooley, C, USA U-18 (NTDP):  Arizona needs everything.  I suspect the Coyotes, given the makeup of their team and prospect pool, are among the teams drafting at the top who are most likely to select one of the top two defensemen, Simon Nemec and David Jiricek.  However, if Cooley is there, it would be a very hard to pass him up.  Any other draft without Wright and Cooley could make a case to go #1.  Cooley will succeed in the NHL due to his complete game and Selke Trophy-like qualities.  Cooley has the potential to be a high-scoring two-way center who can play both the power play and penalty kill and be matched up against the top lines in the NHL. At 5-foot-10, he might not be as impactful physically as Aleksander Barkov or Jonathan Toews, who are 6-foot-3 and 6-foot-2 respectively, but his hockey sense and elusive nature will make him effective nonetheless.   Alternate pick here: Simon Nemec, RHD, Nitra (SLOVAKIA)

 

4. Seattle Kraken: Simon Nemec, RHD, Nitra (SLOVAKIA): Look throughout the organization. The Kraken only have one right-handed shooting prospect defenseman, and that is last year’s fourth-round pick Ville Ottavainen.  Nemec strikes me as the best combination of talent plus need available to them at No. 4. Nemec absolutely has top-pair potential, given his well-rounded skillset and the fact that he’s already thriving against men in Slovakia.  Teams covet right -handed shots and he’s one of the best in this class, as he already has the poise and confidence. He’s an impact player that can do damage in any situation. He’s a top-pairing, power play quarter-back and shut down defender on the penalty kill.  Alternate pick here: Logan Cooley, C, USA U-18 (NTDP)

 

Philadelphia Flyers: Matthew Savoie, C, Winnipeg (WHL): Savoie (5-10) does not have classic No. 1 center size, but he has a game-changer’s speed and skill set along with an NHL shot. He plays with a chip on his shoulder, too.  The Flyers lack talent. Period.  With Giroux now in Florida, the Flyers need a forward with talent. Savoie might be the most offensively gifted prospects in this draft with his speed, silky smooth hands and premier playmaking abilities.  

 

If the well-rounded Wright and Cooley weren’t part of this draft, I could easily see Savoie going first overall. He’s just that good. He not only can beat you with a quick deke or burst of speed but also brilliantly set up someone as well. When he’s on the ice, opponents can’t just focus on him, they have to make sure to cover his wingers and defencemen too or he will find them with a precise pass. As it is, he probably will get taken third or fourth overall behind Wright, Cooley and maybe even Simon Nemec if a team feels they desperately need a top-pairing defenceman. 

 

Savoie has the tools to become an elite top-line forward in the NHL. It remains to be seen if he stays at center ice when he makes it there, but even if he’s a winger, he will still be a threat to score 90-plus points in his prime. His speed, vision, shot and playmaking abilities will make sure of that. If he gets to play with a legitimate goalscorer, the sky’s the limit   

 

Alternate pick: Simon Nemec, RHD, Nitra (SLOVAKIA):  Per Charlie Connor of the Athletic...

 

Philadelphia scouts likely will be impressed by his hockey IQ (always something they prioritize in their evaluations), and his scoring explosion in the Slovakian Elite League playoffs (17 points in 19 games) speaks to his offensive upside. The fact that he’s a right-handed defenseman is just a bonus, but it’s an important bonus given the dearth of them in the NHL and within the Flyers’ system, especially given the legitimate concerns surrounding Ryan Ellis’ health. Nemec would serve as a potential high-end solution to a roster issue they’ve been trying to solve for years.

 

 

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10 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said:

Debatable.  But, he does fulfill some huge needs the Flyers have if they're able to grab him.

 

Many agree that Cooley is #2, and would probably be #1 if Wright didn't improve his game A LOT.  And I believe Nemec is going to be a good defenseman in the league.  Don't want to see either player going to the Devils.

 

Slafkovsky shouldn't be a top 5 pick, imo.  He has some skill.  But, he's a big body that needs a lot of work on his skating.  And, it's the type of player that's having difficulties at the NHL level presently.  So, wouldn't mind seeing Fitzgerald make the mistake and taking the big project at #2 instead of Cooley, and seeing Cooley and Nemec head out West instead of onto a Met division opponent.

Slafovsky also went on a huge shooting heater in which he was scoring at like a 25% clip on his shots after the Olympics. That kind of sitting percentage is unsustainable.

 

Honestly, at 5, it should be Savoie. The Flyers need offensive talent in the forward group. Savoie is simply the best offensive player. Not best all around player like Wright or Cooley. What worries me is that Flyers brass don't like offensively talented forwards. They want all two way guys. If you look at every Stanley Cup winning team, you need a forward that is capable of being a 90 point player and an offensive dynamo. Savoie fits the bill. 

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13 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said:

Screwed again.  5th pick.

 

You think you're mad now imagine next season and the Flyers were to finish last(after all those tanking efforts)and then be bumped to 2nd by the Devils or whomever it would be...

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7 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

You think you're mad now imagine next season and the Flyers were to finish last(after all those tanking efforts)and then be bumped to 2nd by the Devils or whomever it would be...

surely you jest ...... :idontthinkso:

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12 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

surely you jest ...... :idontthinkso:

 

No. Serious.

 

I have seen it happen to many times to the Flyers.

 

When is the last time they had something break their way?

 

The last I can think of was the Matt Carle tying goal to force OT in 2010 vs Rangers for the playoffs or go home.

 

Maybe I am forgetting something refresh my memory I remember how the JVR draft went as well as the Nolan Patrick one.

 

So yes like the year of the JVR draft which IIRC was the first draft where there was a lottery and the Flyers were the worst team and still drafted 2nd.... 

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4 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:
18 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

surely you jest ...... :idontthinkso:

 

No. Serious.

 

I have seen it happen to many times to the Flyers

 

Oh I totally get...and agree with you.  the comment was more of a "bite your tongue" because  I absolutely agree with.  I cannot think of the last time the Flyers "actually caught a break" and had things go their way .....

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47 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

Oh I totally get...and agree with you.  the comment was more of a "bite your tongue" because  I absolutely agree with.  I cannot think of the last time the Flyers "actually caught a break" and had things go their way ....

November 1967....i was born

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I would be fine with Nemec also @ 5.

He projects as top pair RHD...Not a lot of those in the system. With the timing of his development maybe he's a good hedge vs Ellis' health continuing to fade.

 

Maybe the high-end player comes via trade or FA signing this year.

 

My thought would be to maybe trade back into the teens take a guy with great skating and high upside potential like Frank Nazar and seeing if an extra 1st in '23 or a second in '22 or 23 can be added.

 

Savoie feels like a consolation prize to me.  

I have only just read a few scouting reports on him, the things I don't like are his size and projected NHL average speed (even though he is an above average skater) I want speed and explosiveness.

 

@BobbyClarkeFan16

thanks for the reminder on Slavofsky- Braden Schenn became the best player not in the NHL based on a heater he went on in a world's competition, it's not like he's a bad player (he's fine) but he never became that #1 centerman, perennial all-star that some had thought. Schenn definitely benefited from that notoriety well into his pro career, could be the big Finn has a similar trajectory.

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, CoachX said:

November 1967....i was born

 

Damn you're old is that back Ina day when the puck was made of wood?

 

Asking for a friend.

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