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2022 NHL Draft - Flyers Version (#5 Overall)


2022 NHL Draft - Flyers Version  

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  1. 1. Updated Question. Flyers are now drafting #5 overall. Who do you want?

    • Juraj Slafkovsky -TPS (Liiga) (Slovakia)- LW / C / RW
      5
    • Simon Nemec -HK Nitra (Slovakia) - RHD
      1
    • Logan Cooley - USDP (United States) - C (NOTE: Committed to Univ. Minn.)
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    • Matthew Savoie - Winnipeg (WHL - Canada) - C
      9
    • Joakim Kemell - JYP (Liiga) (Finland) - RW
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    • David Jiricek - HC Plzen (Czech) - RHD
      1
    • Connor Geekie - Winnipeg (WHL - Canada) - C
      1
    • Other?
      1
    • BPA (Best Player Available)
      4


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Chuckles has actually drafted ok, his mistake has been striving to slip into the playoffs by signing broken 30 year olds to stupid contracts, and picking outside the top 5, when you have an inside the bottom 5 hockey team.

Drafting in the NHL is part science, part crystal ball, part good fortune. Its very hard to predict how 18 year olds will mature on and off the ice. The NFL drafts young men in their mid twenties. Thats why they come in the league and prosper right away. 

They should get a good player at 5, and hopefully are patient with his development. My wish for this draft is New Jersey gets the Nolan Patrick of the draft and the Flyers get the Cale Makar. 

Its okay to dream.

My prediction is a trade. You go Chuckles!!!

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So it sounds like it's pretty much a done deal...amirite?

If Matthew Savoie is still sitting on the board at #5 the Flyers better grab him. 

There are always surprises and disappointments when projecting 18 year olds into men. Let's cross our fingers chuckles gets it right.

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2 hours ago, Lindbergh31 said:

Yes there should be a good hockey player available at #5 but I don't have as much confidence in Fletcher as you do that he won't **** things up.

To clarify.

Even though I defend Fletcher on here it's not because I think he's great.

There is a narrative that he is a stumble-****** idiot that is not accurate nor fair.

The man can make a draft pick.

The man built a team that had multiple 100 point seasons.

 

He can get #5 right.

 

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17 minutes ago, mojo1917 said:

To clarify.

Even though I defend Fletcher on here it's not because I think he's great.

There is a narrative that he is a stumble-****** idiot that is not accurate nor fair.

The man can make a draft pick.

The man built a team that had multiple 100 point seasons.

 

He can get #5 right.

 

 

This is true.

 

The man hasn't won a single division title in 11 years as a GM and has left both his teams with terrible blunders at FA signings and has been on the losing end of most of his trades. Also true. 

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33 minutes ago, mojo1917 said:

The man built a team that had multiple 100 point seasons.

'14-15 - 100 points - Finished 4th in the Central - Lost in the 2nd round(0-4).

'16-17 - 106 points - Finished 2nd in the Central - Lost in the 1st round(1-4).

'17-18 - 101 points - Finished 3rd in the Central - Lost in the 1st round(1-4).

 

3 seasons.  And absolutely none of it says anything about his ability to draft anything.  What it does say is he's incapable of building a successful team that can compete in the playoffs.

 

And there's ABSOLUTELY no reason not to believe he will screw up the 5th round pick.  Whether that's taking a player that has no business being taken 5th.  Whether that means trading the pick and ONCE AGAIN completely overpaying for a product that is flawed and poorly scouted.  Whatever that might mean.  Make all the excuses you want.  There's VERY LITTLE to defend when it comes to Fletcher.  Period.

 

 

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13 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said:

 

And there's ABSOLUTELY no reason not to believe he will screw up the 5th round pick.  Whether that's taking a player that has no business being taken 5th.  Whether that means trading the pick and ONCE AGAIN completely overpaying for a product that is flawed and poorly scouted.  Whatever that might mean.  Make all the excuses you want.  There's VERY LITTLE to defend when it comes to Fletcher.  Period

Who is the player you want them to draft at #5?

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On 5/11/2022 at 1:19 PM, pilldoc said:

 

you got me by 2 years .....I was born July 1969 .......

Dec 69 here

 

Now, selecting at 5, I really hope the Flyers get to select Savoie.  

 

I don't really know anything about these young kids but from what I've been reading, he sounds like a great pick for the Flyers.

 

PLUS, we could make this the goal song for when he scores.  :NinjaLookLeftRight1:

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Cheesesteak said:

Dec 69 here

 

Now, selecting at 5, I really hope the Flyers get to select Savoie.  

 

I don't really know anything about these young kids but from what I've been reading, he sounds like a great pick for the Flyers.

 

PLUS, we could make this the goal song for when he scores.  :NinjaLookLeftRight1:

 

 

That would need a re-master featuring snoop dog (if that's still his name)

 

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1 hour ago, RonJeremy said:

If the Flyers trade down and get an additional pick , Cutter Gauthier is a guy who has an incredible scouting report and is the type of guy we could use

Yeah.  A 6 rank is crazy for Cutter.  He's probably a middle six two-way forward.  And, his consistency is a big issue.  If he's taken somewhere around 18-22, that's one thing.  But a 6 rank is not where Cutter should be selected.  He skates well for his size.  But, needs that playmaker to set him up.  He's not the guy that's going to generate his own chances very often to get his shot off.

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2 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said:

Yeah.  A 6 rank is crazy for Cutter.  He's probably a middle six two-way forward.  And, his consistency is a big issue.  If he's taken somewhere around 18-22, that's one thing.  But a 6 rank is not where Cutter should be selected.  He skates well for his size.  But, needs that playmaker to set him up.  He's not the guy that's going to generate his own chances very often to get his shot off.

The scouting report makes him sound like he will be a first line player. I haven’t seen any of the top prospects play, I’ve seen highlights and a lot of these guys seem talented. I just hope we make the right pick. We need skill as well as size on the wing but due to the fact that Ellis is a big question mark and probably can’t be counted on long term and Risto is a flop, I think we are gonna take one of those right handed defenseman that are rated in the top 5.

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1 hour ago, RonJeremy said:

The scouting report makes him sound like he will be a first line player.

He's not even a first line wing on the U.S. U-18 team he's on.  If you read other reports about him other than thedraftanalyst.com(that ranks him 6th), he's probably a middle 6 forward.  And, his inconsistency alone should mean he's outside the top 15, at least.  He's a good player.  He's just not a 5th or 6th first round pick.

 

1 hour ago, RonJeremy said:

I think we are gonna take one of those right handed defenseman that are rated in the top 5.

There should be no chance that Nemec is still there at 5.  Jiricek should be though.  But, the HUGE issue there is he had knee surgery in January.  Has a great point shot.  Good skater, although his acceleration needs work.  And, his decision making is not a strong suit of his game.  He's probably a 6th or 7th pick.

 

Imo, the Flyers need that pure sniper SO MUCH MORE than they need to gamble on a top pairing dman.  Doesn't matter what Ellis' situation is.  Nemec might be NHL ready.  Jiricek isn't.  Yes, Jiricek is probably that top pairing dman when he gets to the NHL.  But, he's just not stepping right into their lineup in training camp.  The pick has to be Savoie if he's still there at 5.  He just fills so many needs that this team has when he gets to the NHL.  And fills them very well at that.

 

If Ellis is the huge mistake by Fletcher that he appears to be, then the d pairings should be something like:

Provy - York/Sanheim(doesn't matter that all are lefties-any of them can easily learn to play the opposite side)

Attard - York/Sanheim(whichever isn't the top pair guy)

Risto - Zamula/Hogberg(whichever impresses more during training camp)

 

The other between Zamula and Hogberg that doesn't win that position could be the 7th.  If not, it's VERY easy to find a cheap 7th out there looking for a job.  They are a dime a dozen.

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@FireDillabaugh

My question was directed to you specifically. 

 

Who do you think they should pick?

 

Also, who do YOU think should be hired as the next head coach?

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11 minutes ago, CoachX said:

Who do you think they should pick?

Really?  You might need to pay a bit more attention.  I stated the selection I want, yet again, in the last post.  I certainly haven't made that a secret.  I thought you read my posts?  Didn't you say that somewhere and make another of your smartazz remarks when doing so?

 

11 minutes ago, CoachX said:

Also, who do YOU think should be hired as the next head coach?

Since Trotz has become available, he should be priority 1.  However, as I've stated often already, I believe they have already decided on Tocchet, which would be a mistake.  But, it's who I think Chuck-in-charge will select.  If it has to be a previous Flyer, I'd rather it be Kevin Dineen.  Bill Dineen was a family friend and I got to know Kevin, see the type of person he is, and I think he's the type of teacher this team could benefit from being behind the bench.  Kevin learned well from his father.  And I don't think he's gotten a fair shot yet.  Whether he wants the job or not is another story.  Because it will be a difficult job and might be another situation where he's not given a fair shot because of this organization's incompetent front office.

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10 minutes ago, CoachX said:

@FireDillabaugh

Who do you think they should pick?

 

I think he answered it ....at least based on his post above.......

 

1 hour ago, FireDillabaugh said:

The pick has to be Savoie if he's still there at 5

 

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1 minute ago, FireDillabaugh said:

I believe they have already decided on Tocchet, which would be a mistake.  But, it's who I think Chuck-in-charge will select.  If it has to be a previous Flyer, I'd rather it be Kevin Dineen.

 

I'm afraid it will be Tocchet too and I'm not really happy if that is the direction they go .....

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5 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said:

Yeah.  A 6 rank is crazy for Cutter.  He's probably a middle six two-way forward.  And, his consistency is a big issue.  If he's taken somewhere around 18-22, that's one thing.  But a 6 rank is not where Cutter should be selected.  He skates well for his size.  But, needs that playmaker to set him up.  He's not the guy that's going to generate his own chances very often to get his shot off.

 

Agree .....  Here is the low down I found .....

 

https://thehockeywriters.com/cutter-gauthier-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/

 

While Gauthier is dangerous with the puck on his stick, and his willingness and ability to shoot from anywhere have their merits, he may need to be a bit wiser with his shot selection. Some bad-angle shots, if missing the net, can inadvertently start a breakout or odd-man rush for the opposing team. Late in games, especially close games, that could be a major problem. On that note, he can be careless with the puck at times and look for high-danger plays instead of making the safe play. 

 

Without the puck, his pass reception needs some improvement. Hockey is a high-speed sport, so you won’t always get the perfect pass. There are times where passes will be in his feet or not directly to him and he has trouble handling them, which can result in a turnover. In addition, his intensity level and consistency can waiver on a shift-to-shift basis. He may be able to get away with a bit more as a winger rather than as a center, but nonetheless, these are areas to improve upon. 

 

Strengths

Explosive skating and edge-work

Wrist shot

Two-way play

Positional versatility

Special teams reliability

 

Under Construction (Improvements to Make)

Pass reception

Shot selection

Consistency

 

NHL Potential

Gauthier has the potential to fit in several slots on an NHL lineup due to his positional flexibility, and it’ll make him a valuable player to any team; contending or building. However, the middle-six forward role may be his most suitable spot. He could be that second-line, play-driving, scoring winger due to his shot, explosiveness and on-puck strength or as a third-line center who will contribute offensively, but is responsible defensively. As he continues to develop, his special teams responsibility should continue to grow and he’d be a staple on both power-play and penalty-killing units. 

 

Cutter Gauthier – 2022 NHL Draft Projection

Gauthier looks like he could be drafted anywhere from the mid-to-late first round. Teams that may be looking for an immediate-impact type player would have to wait on him as he’s committed to Boston College for the 2022-23 season.

 

I agree with you .... if Savoie is available at #5 then IMO, the Flyers have to go BPA which is Savoie. 

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15 minutes ago, FireDillabaugh said:

Really?  You might need to pay a bit more attention.  I stated the selection I want, yet again, in the last post.  I certainly haven't made that a secret.  I thought you read my posts?  Didn't you say that somewhere and make another of your smartazz remarks when doing so?

 

Since Trotz has become available, he should be priority 1.  However, as I've stated often already, I believe they have already decided on Tocchet, which would be a mistake.  But, it's who I think Chuck-in-charge will select.  If it has to be a previous Flyer, I'd rather it be Kevin Dineen.  Bill Dineen was a family friend and I got to know Kevin, see the type of person he is, and I think he's the type of teacher this team could benefit from being behind the bench.  Kevin learned well from his father.  And I don't think he's gotten a fair shot yet.  Whether he wants the job or not is another story.  Because it will be a difficult job and might be another situation where he's not given a fair shot because of this organization's incompetent front office.

I dont have the time or energy to sit through all your dissertations. I was hoping you could give a simple answer to a direct question. Obviously you can't. You do a good job of stating what you think they will do, or what they should do, but you can't say what you want them to do. 

 

That's probably too risky for you to put your neck out like that

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9 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

Agree .....  Here is the low down I found .....

Yup.  One of the better ranking sites out there.  To me, that "intensity level and consistency" is a big red flag, and just not something this team needs more of.  He seems to me to be a JVR type, who is a better defensive forward than JVR(not a hard accomplishment).  But, one that loses interest, has trouble consistently producing, while needing that playmaker to help him develop plays for him, like JVR.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, pilldoc said:

 

I think he answered it ....at least based on his post above.......

 

 

Ok. Thanks for clarifying that 👍🏻 

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7 hours ago, pilldoc said:

 

I'm afraid it will be Tocchet too and I'm not really happy if that is the direction they go .....

 

If it gets us (A)  Bedard and (B) rid of Fletcher, where do I sign?

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1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

 

If it gets us (A)  Bedard and (B) rid of Fletcher, where do I sign?

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Tru dat ......

 

Hard to argue against that logic.......

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15 hours ago, pilldoc said:

 

I think he answered it ....at least based on his post above.......

 

 

True, we do need skill, speed and finesse up front, but we also need some big wingers with skill too. So if either Savoie or Slavofsky happens to fall to #5, then either one will do. As slow and unskilled as we are, we are also small and weak and lose almost every battle on the boards and in front, when we played the Isles 2 years ago in the playoffs,we were completely out hit, out muscled and out skated. It was purely Hart that got us to seven games, the writing was on the wall then. We can’t play a skating game or a physical game .At least in the old days we would outwork and outhit our opponents and win a lot of games on sheer determination, even if they were better than us skill wise. We took Edmonton to 7 games in 87, their centers were Messier and Gretzky, we had Poulin and Sutter, our team wasn’t highly skilled but we worked as a team and put in a big effort every night.

 

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1 minute ago, RonJeremy said:

True, we do need skill, speed and finesse up front, but we also need some big wingers with skill too. So if either Savoie or Slavofsky happens to fall to #5, then either one will do. As slow and unskilled as we are, we are also small and weak and lose almost every battle on the boards and in front, when we played the Isles 2 years ago in the playoffs,we were completely out hit, out muscled and out skated. It was purely Hart that got us to seven games, the writing was on the wall then. We can’t play a skating game or a physical game .At least in the old days we would outwork and outhit our opponents and win a lot of games on sheer determination, even if they were better than us skill wise. We took Edmonton to 7 games in 87, their centers were Messier and Gretzky, we had Poulin and Sutter, our team wasn’t highly skilled but we worked as a team and put in a big effort every night.

 

 

 Savoie is NOT big. Skilled, he is. JVR is big and skilled. My daughter could take the puck off him in the corner. 

 

 We do need skill. We do need size.  But as you mentioned, heart goes a long way. 

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From what I hear there is a need at the Center position in Philly. Having a player that can play multiple positions such as Slafkovsky is a plus. A guy like Cooley even though he is committed to the University of Minnesota is fine because I don't think any of these players are actually ready to contribute right away. Then there is Savoie which seems like a consensus selection at where the Flyers pick. 

 

Also selecting a Defense player could also help the Flyers and that player would be Nemec. 

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58 minutes ago, RonJeremy said:

we are also small and weak and lose almost every battle on the boards and in front

 

Sometimes that isn't about size sometimes at the end of the day you didn't want it bad enough.

 

I'm 5-11. When i played i always played against guys who were 6-1 6-3 or 6-4.

 

Still out played them because well i had to find another way to out work the other guy.

 

Preparation and training can sometimes swing the tide it did for me because well i wasn't going to grow any taller...so i can do find another way.

 

Give me a 3 star with something to prove over a 5 star who thinks he has arrived....all day.

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