Cheesesteak Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: I feel in my bones this is Chuckles last swing at the piñata... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OccamsRazor Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 hours ago, flyercanuck said: What if he comes in and "leads" like Hayes? Then we have a problem. 3 hours ago, flyercanuck said: I have never heard anyone suggest Deangelo is a leader, or teacher. Douchebag, yes Sure but people can change. Will see if he has. Torts is going to test his maturity. 3 hours ago, flyercanuck said: It's all we can do. Bingo. Gawd have mercy on our souls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, radoran said: He had a reliable backup partner. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but you hit the nail on the head. I think they are hoping Ivan can be his Slavin on the otherwise. Just a guess at their reach. I really hope they hit it right I don't want to think about a swing and another miss... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 hours ago, mojo1917 said: @ruxpin Ah, thanks, I was thinking this was in relation to his being waived. In this context, yes Fletcher did not cover himself in glory. Never has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 You know, I take it back. I am jacked for DeAngelo. Him punching Tortorella out cold on the bench would be a fitting capper for this era of Flyers hockey. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 This reflects what many of us have said for years. The trade is necessitated by bad drafting and development. A half decade ago, there was talk of the franchise finally building a mobile D that was needed in the New NHL. Our picks have not panned out, with Sanheim and Provorov as semi-exceptions relative to expectations. This deal is an add-on to "fix" Ellis, which was a fix for prior failures. Loss of lower round picks may not hurt the parent club, but they build depth at the minors. Again, we were lauded for depth a few years ago. Now we are a bottom feeder. Whether the guy plans out is TBD. Meanwhile, our prospect pool is thin, and Fedotov's mess doesn't help. Sorry for dumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SCFlyguy said: You know, I take it back. I am jacked for DeAngelo. Him punching Tortorella out cold on the bench would be a fitting capper for this era of Flyers hockey. I think Torts would ko that smarmy bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Is anyone else starting to wonder if Fletcher is just making these ridiculously stupid trades and signings to see if anyone will actually fire him? You know how you hear the story about the guy who starts with a paperclip and trades and trades until he ends up with a house? Well Chuck starts with a house... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedo 228 ERQS Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 hours ago, SCFlyguy said: I haven't seen a single source (not related to the Flyers) that thinks the Flyers made a good trade here. Everything I'm seeing says they overpaid. The only thing DeAngelo will lead to is Hart to request a trade. You didn't look to hard,look at the Carolina Hurricanes forum they are not happy at all with the picks they got.tiok all of about 30 sec to find this out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedo 228 ERQS Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pedo 228 ERQS said: You didn't look to hard,look at the Carolina Hurricanes forum they are not happy at all with the picks they got.tiok all of about 30 sec to find this out It's the Carolina Message board look at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pedo 228 ERQS said: It's the Carolina Message board look at it 5 minutes ago, Pedo 228 ERQS said: It's the Carolina Message board look at it What site? Hfboards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedo 228 ERQS Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ruxpin said: What site? Hfboards? Carolinahuddle.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: All this collecting of Hayes' friends and former teammates. Nothing good will come from it. If Tortorella thought the locker room was splintered before, just wait until it becomes a full out revolt of Hayes and his group vs the rest of the roster. This might make the 2006 - 2007 locker room squabble between Forsberg/Gagne and Carter/Richards look like a drop in the bucket. Or Torts brings in a few of his dogs and makes Hayes his bitch. DeAngelo says he's matured and will buy in totally to whatever Torts wants. benefit of a doubt. https://www.nhl.com/news/philadelphia-flyers-tony-deangelo-eager-to-play-for-coach-john-tortorella/c-334905314?tid=277548856 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Rick Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 11:55 AM, ruxpin said: I take it you dont like the trade Rux? ESPN says Fletcher might have to spend time telling Flyer fans how this wont bring a black cloud over Philly. Their words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucson83 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Pedo 228 ERQS said: You didn't look to hard,look at the Carolina Hurricanes forum they are not happy at all with the picks they got.tiok all of about 30 sec to find this out you are not kidding. i cant believe they trade him to us and i like this move too like what were they thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Rick Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, ruxpin said: What site? Hfboards? Come on Rux, the Flyers are still your team. Did you see me bail on the Sabres, Bills or Orioles ever? So just adopt the Sabres as your 2nd favorite and just maybe you will have something to cheer for this year. I do not get Gritty below. How can you be a Flyers fan and have Boston as your 2nd favorite? They are kind of rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) I am on Lake Hartwell near Clemson for the week, boating, fishing, tubing and skiing and whatever trouble we can get into. I left out a lot of drinking so yeah that too. So last night I seen some reports that Ellis is going to play and TD is for the 3rd pair to play along side York. So I found it interesting and I can't find where I read that. I know I had more than my fare share of bourbon last night but either way not sure I can trust it. Till I see Ellis on the ice with the team skating and practicing I will not expect him to play....back to vacation. Edited July 10, 2022 by OccamsRazor #Bourbon up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 8 hours ago, GrittyForever said: Or Torts brings in a few of his dogs and makes Hayes his bitch. DeAngelo says he's matured and will buy in totally to whatever Torts wants. benefit of a doubt. https://www.nhl.com/news/philadelphia-flyers-tony-deangelo-eager-to-play-for-coach-john-tortorella/c-334905314?tid=277548856 Time to put up or shut up time….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said: I take it you dont like the trade Rux? ESPN says Fletcher might have to spend time telling Flyer fans how this wont bring a black cloud over Philly. Their words. Hi HJ Yeah, I'm not really a fan of this. I don't hate the game DeAngelo brings, though I do dislike the person in the jersey. But more, I don't understand how he fits in or how he addresses the clear needs the Flyers have. Especially when we could have just used the #5 pick for a kid that was arguably better than what we drafted (satisfying BPA) and filled the need we clearly have. That filled need wouldn't have been immediate because Jiricek wouldn't have been ready for a year or two, probably, but the Flyers wouldn't be ready for at least that long either. The three blind mice thing is really because there's apparently no sober diagnosis of what is wrong and, therefore, the seemingly bumble stumble in the dark absence of a cogent plan. Think of the frustration for Sabres fans maybe 4-5 years ago or so. That's where Philly is right now. Nothing this team's "management" is doing is making any sense. It occurs to me that Philly has a bunch of managers and no leaders. I actually think Cutter could turn out to be a decent player. There's upside there. And I like D'Angelo's game, even though getting him makes me feel kind of like I did when the Eagles got Michael Vick. I wanted to shower. Vick at least made sense in terms of "fit" as a player. Funny your reference mentions this, but it really IS annoying that every Fletcher trade requires a twisted propaganda "explanation" from Fletcher. Once -- just once -- it would be nice if a move simply made sense on its face. Forget "winning" the trade. That's often difficult to measure. My criteria at this point is simply one that makes sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said: Come on Rux, the Flyers are still your team. Did you see me bail on the Sabres, Bills or Orioles ever? So just adopt the Sabres as your 2nd favorite and just maybe you will have something to cheer for this year. I do not get Gritty below. How can you be a Flyers fan and have Boston as your 2nd favorite? They are kind of rivals. With the hfboards thing, I was just asking where I could see some Hurricane fans takes on the DeAngelo thing. But I did mention "maybe I'll become a Sabres' fan elsewhere. Really more in line with what you describe than actually "switching." Just to have something to actually cheer for in the interim. Plus, I really do like a lot of the kids on your team. Boston. Hard to answer that one from here. Way way way back when the Flyers traded Poulin and Propp there, I became a temporary fan. But that's it. I highly doubt the Flyers are a rival from Boston's vantage. The Flyers would first have to be relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: I am on Lake Hartwell near Clemson for the week, boating, fishing, tubing and skiing and whatever trouble we can get into. I left out a lot of drinking so yeah that too. So last night I seen some reports that Ellis is going to play and TD is for the 3rd pair to play along side York. So I found it interesting and I can't find where I read that. I know I had more than my fare share of bourbon last night but either way not sure I can trust it. Till I see Ellis on the ice with the team skating and practicing I will not expect him to play....back to vacation. If Ellis returns and the pairs are as you describe, that's an expensive defense, but it's crazy enough it just might work. One more year of protecting York might not be a bad idea, but after that he needs to start moving up. Or flip him and Provorov if.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 18 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but you hit the nail on the head. I think they are hoping Ivan can be his Slavin on the otherwise. Just a guess at their reach. I really hope they hit it right I don't want to think about a swing and another miss... So, when chuckles trades Provy to free up cash for the shiny toy, who plays with DeAngelo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, flyer4ever said: So, when chuckles trades Provy to free up cash for the shiny toy, who plays with DeAngelo? And will they be of legal age? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, flyer4ever said: So, when chuckles trades Provy to free up cash for the shiny toy, who plays with DeAngelo? Yandsie. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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