The problem with this years deadline

[yave1964]

A month until the trade deadline which comes up March 3rd. A lot can change between now and then but there is a big problem, the opposite of last years and several recent seasons as well. Too many teams are still in it.

 

   Last eason literally before US Thanksgiving, all eight Eastern Conference spots were wrapped up and there were at most four teams fighting for the final three spots in the West.  In short there were about fourteeen potential sellers as the deadline aproached.

 

  This year 12 teams in the East and 10 in the West are still fighting for playoff spots, leaving 10 teams who could legit be considered sellers. in short there are more buyers than in recent years, and less sellers. It will be a sellers' market.

 

  These are imho the top names to look to be moved with an unusually high number of buyers....

 

ANAHEIM Would love to move Gibson but not likely to happen. Stolarz could and will be a solid value backup get. Shattenkirk and Klingberg are UFAs who the ducks will have to eat salary to move.

 

SHARKS Timo Meier is the hot name out there although he is a RFA at years end and the Sharks do not have to deal him unless they are overwhelmed. Bonino is a fantastic 3C who plays playoff style hockey. Again, it is a buyers market with goalies but Reimer could be insurance for a team whose goalies are iffy. The Kraken are rumored to be interested with dumping the overpriced Grubauer along with picks going the other way.

 

CANUCKS Would dearly love to move Boeser but has a bloated contract and term, he will not get much of a return and the Canucks will have to eat salary. Schenn is a huge piece, signed to a cheap deal, folks who are fighting the cap will give up a second and possibly a first for him. Supposedly Demko may be on the market but not sure if that is true. Again, it is a buys market on goalies and sellers elsewehre so it might be really really dumb even by Canucks standards to look to move him right now.

 

BLUES are sinking fast, more or less out of it. O'Reilly has expressed interest in staying but has no clause allowing him to control movement so if healthy by the deadline is a goner unless he signs a two or three year deal with a hometown discount to remain. The Leafs supposedly have him as their primary add. Taresenko is an ufa but has a full no movement deal so he controls his destiny. Supposedly he wants to play with Panarin and rumors of Taresenko/Lafanierre are out there.Barbashev will fetch a third rounder,  Greiss joins a crowded field of goalies.

 

COYOTES They are loaded up with draft picks and want more, they are rebuilding the right way and will move Bjugstad who the Oilers have expressed interest in. Vjmelka joins a growing list of goalies, intriguing as he has 2 years at less than 3 million per on his deal. Ghost is the top puck moving d-man available. Really a lot of vets on chea deals who someone might want as a 6th defender or 12th forward for picks which the 'Yotes covet.

 

BLACKHAWKS huge names here. Toews and Kane on their final year of their deal, Toews to the Bruins rumored, Kane to the Rangers if they miss on Taresenko. An intriguing one is Seth Jones who the Hawks would have to eat a lot of alary but rumor is they are open to doing whatever it takes to move on. Athanasiou and especially Domi will bring a decent return. They already have 6 picks in the first three rounds, they may reach double digits by the draft.

 

  JACKETS   Matthieu Olivier is a depth piece who will come cheap. the Jackets want a 2nd for Gavrikov and in the small amount of sellers will get it. Korpisalo joins the huge rank of goalies. Texier went home to France and his days in  columbus are over, he might be a sneaky good add for a team.

 

FLYERS not a lot to throw out there, Braun for a 4th rounder maybe? JVR a n UFA but his contract is hard to move, not a value add for someone but forwards are thin so he might command a bit of interest,

 

 REDWINGS lots of players here, Larkin is an UFA but has a no move deal and wants to sign. If not he might be persuaded to move on.  Bertuzzi has shot hisself in the foot with a dreadful year but has no protection in his deal and can be traded and will. Calgary rumored to be interested. Maata and Wallman having good years, defense is gonna be hard to get both will draw interest. Erne, Suter and Sundqvist all will draw interest and should draw mid level picks unless they resign.

 

 CANADIENS Monahan rumored to be going to the Avalanche for a third. Dadonov having a wretched year but might be moved for a low level pick.

 

  That is it, some intersting names out there but not enough for the teams in need of a boost. Of course Ottawa may decide they are sellers not much here if so, Motta and Hamonic is about it. Florida is on the cusp, if they fall out of the race they are rumored to be willing to moveon from Reinhart and possibly even Bennett and Gudas, but it is more likely, especially in Floridas case that they will wait until the offseason to make moves. 

 

So not a ton of sellers for the amount of buyers. Too many goalies, nowhere near the defenseman that are needed, buyers will overpay. 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Brewin Flames]

It seems that teams who are selling are looking to sell high, yet players like Horvat (imo) went for less than market value.

 

 

[radoran]

8 minutes ago, yave1964 said:

Braun for a 4th rounder maybe?

 

He garnered a 3rd last year. A 4th not unreasonable.

 

9 minutes ago, yave1964 said:

JVR a n UFA but his contract is hard to move, not a value add for someone

 

Dude is "on pace" for a 20/50 season and can be had for likely (if they are smart ) half price. A 20/50 add at $3.5M for a stretch run rental? Someone should take that.

[yave1964]

Two names i fogot to mention,

 

 Erik Karlsson having a monster year, the Sharks want a lot but willing to eat salary. Buyer beware.

 

 Chychrun. The Coyotes want a mid level first, a very good prospect and a roster player and are sticking to it.

 

And one more, IF and only if the Predators decide to sell Ekholm will be moved. Right now they have expressed interest in adding to make a run. 

 

Hell, while i am at it, Dumba is on the block for a roster forward.

[OccamsRazor]

I can see Joyzee taking a shot at JVR being a local guy and all.

 

Braun anyone's guess.

 

Did the Rangers like the depth he added last season?

 

Can't say but maybe a return to NYR?

 

Regardless I don't expect much back for the Flyers especially with Chuck pulling the strings.

 

I'm actually frightened by the thought.

[yave1964]

22 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

He garnered a 3rd last year. A 4th not unreasonable.

 

 

Dude is "on pace" for a 20/50 season and can be had for likely (if they are smart ) half price. A 20/50 add at $3.5M for a stretch run rental? Someone should take that.

Did you forget who your GM is? He will probably give JVR 7x9 instead of dealing him lol.

 

  No seriously, until taresenko and Kane go, the other Domino's will likely have to wait. I think he might fetch a third best case.

[Math]

With Lindkvist being DeBoer's whipping boy, Klingberg might be heading back to Dallas but Anaheim will have to eat a lot of salary to fill the spot on the D right side and have a steady solution on the second PP unit. That would be funny to sign him again on a bargain rate because of his dreadful season but Suter has to go (his contract is buyout-friendly)

[J0e Th0rnton]

45 minutes ago, yave1964 said:

A month until the trade deadline which comes up March 3rd. A lot can change between now and then but there is a big problem, the opposite of last years and several recent seasons as well. Too many teams are still in it.

 

   Last eason literally before US Thanksgiving, all eight Eastern Conference spots were wrapped up and there were at most four teams fighting for the final three spots in the West.  In short there were about fourteeen potential sellers as the deadline aproached.

 

  This year 12 teams in the East and 10 in the West are still fighting for playoff spots, leaving 10 teams who could legit be considered sellers. in short there are more buyers than in recent years, and less sellers. It will be a sellers' market.

 

  These are imho the top names to look to be moved with an unusually high number of buyers....

 

ANAHEIM Would love to move Gibson but not likely to happen. Stolarz could and will be a solid value backup get. Shattenkirk and Klingberg are UFAs who the ducks will have to eat salary to move.

 

SHARKS Timo Meier is the hot name out there although he is a RFA at years end and the Sharks do not have to deal him unless they are overwhelmed. Bonino is a fantastic 3C who plays playoff style hockey. Again, it is a buyers market with goalies but Reimer could be insurance for a team whose goalies are iffy. The Kraken are rumored to be interested with dumping the overpriced Grubauer along with picks going the other way.

 

CANUCKS Would dearly love to move Boeser but has a bloated contract and term, he will not get much of a return and the Canucks will have to eat salary. Schenn is a huge piece, signed to a cheap deal, folks who are fighting the cap will give up a second and possibly a first for him. Supposedly Demko may be on the market but not sure if that is true. Again, it is a buys market on goalies and sellers elsewehre so it might be really really dumb even by Canucks standards to look to move him right now.

 

BLUES are sinking fast, more or less out of it. O'Reilly has expressed interest in staying but has no clause allowing him to control movement so if healthy by the deadline is a goner unless he signs a two or three year deal with a hometown discount to remain. The Leafs supposedly have him as their primary add. Taresenko is an ufa but has a full no movement deal so he controls his destiny. Supposedly he wants to play with Panarin and rumors of Taresenko/Lafanierre are out there.Barbashev will fetch a third rounder,  Greiss joins a crowded field of goalies.

 

COYOTES They are loaded up with draft picks and want more, they are rebuilding the right way and will move Bjugstad who the Oilers have expressed interest in. Vjmelka joins a growing list of goalies, intriguing as he has 2 years at less than 3 million per on his deal. Ghost is the top puck moving d-man available. Really a lot of vets on chea deals who someone might want as a 6th defender or 12th forward for picks which the 'Yotes covet.

 

BLACKHAWKS huge names here. Toews and Kane on their final year of their deal, Toews to the Bruins rumored, Kane to the Rangers if they miss on Taresenko. An intriguing one is Seth Jones who the Hawks would have to eat a lot of alary but rumor is they are open to doing whatever it takes to move on. Athanasiou and especially Domi will bring a decent return. They already have 6 picks in the first three rounds, they may reach double digits by the draft.

 

  JACKETS   Matthieu Olivier is a depth piece who will come cheap. the Jackets want a 2nd for Gavrikov and in the small amount of sellers will get it. Korpisalo joins the huge rank of goalies. Texier went home to France and his days in  columbus are over, he might be a sneaky good add for a team.

 

FLYERS not a lot to throw out there, Braun for a 4th rounder maybe? JVR a n UFA but his contract is hard to move, not a value add for someone but forwards are thin so he might command a bit of interest,

 

 REDWINGS lots of players here, Larkin is an UFA but has a no move deal and wants to sign. If not he might be persuaded to move on.  Bertuzzi has shot hisself in the foot with a dreadful year but has no protection in his deal and can be traded and will. Calgary rumored to be interested. Maata and Wallman having good years, defense is gonna be hard to get both will draw interest. Erne, Suter and Sundqvist all will draw interest and should draw mid level picks unless they resign.

 

 CANADIENS Monahan rumored to be going to the Avalanche for a third. Dadonov having a wretched year but might be moved for a low level pick.

 

  That is it, some intersting names out there but not enough for the teams in need of a boost. Of course Ottawa may decide they are sellers not much here if so, Motta and Hamonic is about it. Florida is on the cusp, if they fall out of the race they are rumored to be willing to moveon from Reinhart and possibly even Bennett and Gudas, but it is more likely, especially in Floridas case that they will wait until the offseason to make moves. 

 

So not a ton of sellers for the amount of buyers. Too many goalies, nowhere near the defenseman that are needed, buyers will overpay. 

 

 

 

 

 

  

The coyotes.  Rebuilding the right way for over a decade lol 

 

They have a 24 year old hot defenseman in chychrun and want to sell him for picks.

It's like an endless cycle

[radoran]

14 minutes ago, yave1964 said:

I think he might fetch a third best case.

 

As I said on another thread, that's a third more than they have for him now.

 

1 minute ago, J0e Th0rnton said:

They have a 24 year old hot defenseman in chychrun and want to sell him for picks.

 

I was going to ask who they were going to draft that they can deal in the next 3-5 years?