Vanflyer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 24 goals, most GWG for all rookies, fourth in +/- and played in all game situations (pp, sh, ev). Mind boggling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 not even on the ballot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 He's not?That is crazy?He's a Flyer!No need to say more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 @mojo1917I don't know about the ballot part, but TSN is reporting Ladeskog (who should win it), Nugent-Hopkins and Henrique as the finalists. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=393716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamflyers Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Seriousy? He's not even in the running? Maybe I'm biased, but all season I was expecting he would be a finalist, but would ultimately lose out to Ladiskog (sp). Pretty unbelieveable that he is not even a finalist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter puck Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 for one he's 25 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 for one he's 25 years oldI wasn't aware of the age limitation on the Calder.Probably because there isn't one. If they want it to be the best player under 20 award, make it the best player under 20 award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 @radoranOne could argue as well that the developmental leagues that Landeskog, Nugent and Henrique were at a higher level than what Read played in NCAA and prior in the USHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange_crush Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 24 goals, most GWG for all rookies, fourth in +/- and played in all game situations (pp, sh, ev).Mind boggling.That's f'ing crazy...Read has been insane all year , even showing up in the playoffs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 That's f'ing crazy...Read has been insane all year , even showing up in the playoffs..Exactly how many of those guys mentioned played BIG minutes on the PK????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Per Bettman, he is not eligible because he plays for the Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I didn't expect him to win it, but he should definitely be a finalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 @OccamsRazorLadeskog and Henrique both played third PK pairing (about 1:20 minutes a game). Read played double of that. Nugent-Hopkins did not play PK at all (but of ton of PP). Landeskog should totally win it, but Read should have been a finalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 @OccamsRazorLadeskog and Henrique both played third PK pairing (about 1:20 minutes a game). Read played double of that. Nugent-Hopkins did not play PK at all (but of ton of PP).Landeskog should totally win it, but Read should have been a finalist.Agree with that statement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlyer1 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Another case of Not the name on the back but the Logo on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter puck Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I wasn't aware of the age limitation on the Calder.Probably because there isn't one. If they want it to be the best player under 20 award, make it the best player under 20 award.OOPs that definately came out wrong. My thought was that thats the criteria the sports writers are using when they didnt consider him.If had a vote he would be at the top he plays pp, pk lead in goals and game winners all that production on a team loaded with rooks. The other reason he doesnt get the nod is the name of team he plays for. I agree with you a rookie is a rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I wasn't aware of the age limitation on the Calder.Probably because there isn't one. If they want it to be the best player under 20 award, make it the best player under 20 award. Actually, there IS an age restriction on the Calder. You have to be under 26, which Read is. His age does act against him, and because of it, I don't think he should win (Landeskogs season as a teenager is much more impressive). Another thing against him is he's a Flyer. And then of the course the all important factor...he didn't play junior But he should certainly be a finalist after a great year for a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I wasn't aware of the age limitation on the Calder.Probably because there isn't one.there is. age 26. read squeaks in.so..he does qualify. but i can see how his age colors his accomplishments in the eyes of the voters. it is a little less impressive for a 25 yearold to do those things than an 18/19 year old.besides, my vote would go to couturier, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsippius Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 besides, my vote would go to couturier, anyway.Exactly, which why this award should be retitled the Rookie Points Award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terp Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 But he should certainly be a finalist after a great year for a rookie.So of the three finalists, which should come off? I'd probably say Nugent-Hopkins because of all the injury time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So of the three finalists, which should come off? I'd probably say Nugent-Hopkins because of all the injury time.\ I'd say Henrique...he's a Devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terp Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I'd say Henrique...he's a Devil.Yeah, he wouldn't want to follow in the footsteps of Scott Gomez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter puck Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I wasn't aware of the age limitation on the Calder.Probably because there isn't one. If they want it to be the best player under 20 award, make it the best player under 20 award.In 1990, Sergei Makarov of the Calgary Flames became the oldest player, at age 31, to win the Calder. After that season, the rules for awarding the Calder were amended so that players could only be eligible if they were 26 years old or younger by September 15 of their rookie season.To be eligible for the award, a player cannot have played any more than 25 games previously in any single season, nor have played in more than six games in two separate preceding seasons in any major professional league. The latter fact was perhaps most prominent when in 1979–80, first-year phenom Wayne Gretzky was not eligible to win the Calder Trophy despite scoring 137 points (the previous rookie record at the time being 95), because he had played a full season the previous year in the World Hockey Association. The trophy has been won the most times by rookies from the Toronto Maple Leafs, who have won it on nine occasions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange_crush Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 24 goals, most GWG for all rookies, fourth in +/- and played in all game situations (pp, sh, ev).Mind boggling.Another issue I have with awards is what about Courtier? Anyone that knows hockey and watched him play will agree this kid is a stud. But because he doesn't have 25 goals all the idiots won't even mention his name. Hockey is more than about stats.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Ach, I should have Googled it before posting, but it was a wonderful piece of snark :-)So, then, why 25 if they're not going to nominate anyone over 22?Another ridiculous NHL situation. "Ridiculous" as in "worthy of ridicule". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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