Irishjim Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 by Michael DeNicolaFrustration. Conversion. Finish. Three key words that play as the bricks to the Devils' foundation. A forechecking, defensive nightmare for any heavily loaded offensive adversary. It's what we have to get used to watching, and it's absolutely essential that the Flyers bear through it and solve it. Or else our boys trade in their sticks for fairway woods. After last night's overtime loss that put us down 2 - 1 in the Semis, it's never been more clear that all of our stars need to step up at once and give a full 60-minute effort. Danny Briere's been doing his part, but he cannot do it all alone. We've seen Jaromir Jagr get demoted from the front line combo to the second and/or third group of forwards. We've seen Claude Giroux completely outmatched and turned into a ghost for almost three consecutive games, which is an unreal accomplishment by New Jersey all in its own. And now that Sean Couturier's looking at sitting out the next couple of contests with a deep gash in his leg (suffered early on in the 1st period from a rogue skateblade), we're going to need extra defensive and faceoff efforts from our forward skaters. If we all just sit back and take a deep breath, we can remind ourselves that the Flyers have a substantial amount more of firepower than New Jersey. The Devils know this which is why we're seeing such an aggressive forecheck and a bustled cycling game. There's that word -- "cycling". Throughout the contest -- and especially in the 1st period -- we heard ice-side analyst, Pierre McGuire, repeat this term over and over and over again. McGuire used this to describe New Jersey's ability to keep the puck in our end by deploying a continuous sequence of puck drops into the opposite corners. Once the rubber was deposited and our defensemen chased the play, each of the three Devils forwards had a particular job to do. It's almost the exact opposite of players just rushing to the net to screen the goalie, or get big bodies in the crease to pick up second-chance garbage goals. Cycling in the offensive zone opens seams and space for the rush. When these paths are generated, so are opportunities and the chance is either lengthened and/or finished on. We heard New Jersey's head coach, Peter DeBoer, say that "the best defense against this [Flyers] team is keeping the puck in their zone."Not only does cycling the rubber create contingency for the Devils, but it wears down our preventative guard, forcing our five skaters to stay on the ice and remain on long shifts. And I don't need to tell you that tiring out your competitor usually pays out in your favor. It's what we saw through the entire 1st period. The Devils (simply put) looked like a great team playing a terrible team. It was almost like we had no answers. Once possession was gained by a Flyer, it seemed he was just as quickly forced to make a decision (due to the forechecking) which either morphed into a turnover, or one of our players had to dump the puck to the Devils end to get fresh legs on the frozen pond. So if New Jersey's going to continue to cycle the puck, how do the Flyers defend against it?This is where our big name players fall into place. An effective offense is generated by an effective defense. The cycle's ultimate objective is to score goals by creating confusion in the defense's zone. New Jersey did this in effort to make our players miss assignments.To eliminate confusion, the Flyers must establish a positive, universal checking game. Whether it be taking the body between the puck and the net, or stick-checking the puck handler to gain possession. Clearing the puck out of our zone is one thing (and frankly, I'm tired of watching the Flyers do it over and over again), but Philly needs to constitute an active transition from the defensive zone through the neutral zone using smart stretch-passes that actually connect. We have more than enough speed to accomplish this feat.If an opponent insists on playing an aggressive cycling game, then getting the puck out of our end and skating it up ice will ultimately lead to odd-man rushes or breakaways. There just wasn't enough of that last night. Our Broad Street Bullies have the speed and depth to compete with New Jersey's extremely good defensive game. Right now it's a question of who wants it more, and can our star players rise to the challenge?Danny Briere can't do it all himself. He came up huge with an equalizer just past the midway point of the 3rd period which took us into Overtime. But he cannot keep doing it all on his own. Oddly enough, it wasn't the Devils cycling or forechecking that gained them the game-winning goal in the extra stanza. It was confusion on our bench that led to a premature line change while Kovalchuk still possessed the puck at mid-ice. There wasn't enough Flyers players on the backcheck to contest a stampeding Alexei Ponikarovsky who combated for a rebound off his shot, and put the second-chance behind Ilya Bryzgalov. Missed assignments and missed opportunities are what the Devils are counting on from our end. So far, we're feeding straight into it. We're not playing our game, and we're failing to familiarize ourselves with New Jersey's strategy. For that, we're not strengthening our threat as the game grows on. Instead, our Flyers are skating on some kind of plateau with no progression, and each time our drive hits a pothole....the Devils are right there to run us off the road. Clean it up, boys. The Series depends on it. Quote
orange_crush Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I would insert Kubina and scratch Gus... the only way to stop cycling is to win the physical battles and were not doing that right now.. Quote
radoran Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 The Devils have the Flyers playing the Devils' game. Like DeBoer said, the best defense against the Flyers is keeping them in their end.Flyers team defense, quite frankly, has been horrible all year while most of the attention had been placed on goaltending.Well, the goaltending has improved, but the team defense is still a serious issue. This is a run-n-gun team. It's what they do. If you take that away, the team doesn't have a fallback. Yet.Series is far from over, but the Flyers need to play more of their game and less of the Devils'. In most cases, that's just getting back to the grit and determination they had against Pittsburgh. 2 Quote
orange_crush Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 The Devils have the Flyers playing the Devils' game. Like DeBoer said, the best defense against the Flyers is keeping them in their end.Flyers team defense, quite frankly, has been horrible all year while most of the attention had been placed on goaltending.Well, the goaltending has improved, but the team defense is still a serious issue. This is a run-n-gun team. It's what they do. If you take that away, the team doesn't have a fallback. Yet.Series is far from over, but the Flyers need to play more of their game and less of the Devils'. In most cases, that's just getting back to the grit and determination they had against Pittsburgh.But when the Devils dump the puck and begin cycling , the dmen need to gain control of the puck and win the physical battle..guys like Gus and Carle are weak and unable to do this.. having more big bodies back there like Kubina will help win more puck battles and get the puck out of our zone.. Quote
radoran Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 But when the Devils dump the puck and begin cycling , the dmen need to gain control of the puck and win the physical battle..guys like Gus and Carle are weak and unable to do this.. having more big bodies back there like Kubina will help win more puck battles and get the puck out of our zone..They need to win the battles, regardless of who's on the ice. Kubina's had his moments of good and bad. I thought Gus had some mistakes last night, but he also worked hard to get over them.As far as I'm concerned, what the other five defensemen do will be far more important than whether or not Kubina replaces Gus (not that I am opposed to that). 1 Quote
JackStraw Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 But when the Devils dump the puck and begin cycling , the dmen need to gain control of the puck and win the physical battle..guys like Gus and Carle are weak and unable to do this.. having more big bodies back there like Kubina will help win more puck battles and get the puck out of our zone..yeah, except not just the d-men. Forwards too. There was way too much standing around last night, by everyone. 1 Quote
The Quigster Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 The Flyers have six players when the puck is in their end and the opposition have five. If everybody does their job,no problem.The Flyers are not working hard(like they were in Pitt),they stand around,don't skate hard to get back on defense,and Lavi has to use more of the bench. The guys are wearing out. Let Rinaldo&Sestito massage Marty next game. Quote
orange_crush Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 byMichael DeNicolaFrustration. Conversion. Finish. Three key words that play as the bricks to the Devils' foundation. A forechecking, defensive nightmare for any heavily loaded offensive adversary. It's what we have to get used to watching, and it's absolutely essential that the Flyers bear through it and solve it. Or else our boys trade in their sticks for fairway woods. After last night's overtime loss that put us down 2 - 1 in the Semis, it's never been more clear that all of our stars need to step up at once and give a full 60-minute effort. Danny Briere's been doing his part, but he cannot do it all alone. We've seen Jaromir Jagr get demoted from the front line combo to the second and/or third group of forwards. We've seen Claude Giroux completely outmatched and turned into a ghost for almost three consecutive games, which is an unreal accomplishment by New Jersey all in its own. And now that Sean Couturier's looking at sitting out the next couple of contests with a deep gash in his leg (suffered early on in the 1st period from a rogue skateblade), we're going to need extra defensive and faceoff efforts from our forward skaters. If we all just sit back and take a deep breath, we can remind ourselves that the Flyers have a substantial amount more of firepower than New Jersey. The Devils know this which is why we're seeing such an aggressive forecheck and a bustled cycling game. There's that word -- "cycling". Throughout the contest -- and especially in the 1st period -- we heard ice-side analyst, Pierre McGuire, repeat this term over and over and over again. McGuire used this to describe New Jersey's ability to keep the puck in our end by deploying a continuous sequence of puck drops into the opposite corners. Once the rubber was deposited and our defensemen chased the play, each of the three Devils forwards had a particular job to do. It's almost the exact opposite of players just rushing to the net to screen the goalie, or get big bodies in the crease to pick up second-chance garbage goals. Cycling in the offensive zone opens seams and space for the rush. When these paths are generated, so are opportunities and the chance is either lengthened and/or finished on. We heard New Jersey's head coach, Peter DeBoer, say that "the best defense against this [Flyers] team is keeping the puck in their zone."Not only does cycling the rubber create contingency for the Devils, but it wears down our preventative guard, forcing our five skaters to stay on the ice and remain on long shifts. And I don't need to tell you that tiring out your competitor usually pays out in your favor. It's what we saw through the entire 1st period. The Devils (simply put) looked like a great team playing a terrible team. It was almost like we had no answers. Once possession was gained by a Flyer, it seemed he was just as quickly forced to make a decision (due to the forechecking) which either morphed into a turnover, or one of our players had to dump the puck to the Devils end to get fresh legs on the frozen pond.So if New Jersey's going to continue to cycle the puck, how do the Flyers defend against it?This is where our big name players fall into place.An effective offense is generated by an effective defense. The cycle's ultimate objective is to score goals by creating confusion in the defense's zone. New Jersey did this in effort to make our players miss assignments.To eliminate confusion, the Flyers must establish a positive, universal checking game. Whether it be taking the body between the puck and the net, or stick-checking the puck handler to gain possession. Clearing the puck out of our zone is one thing (and frankly, I'm tired of watching the Flyers do it over and over again), but Philly needs to constitute an active transition from the defensive zone through the neutral zone using smart stretch-passes that actually connect. We have more than enough speed to accomplish this feat.If an opponent insists on playing an aggressive cycling game, then getting the puck out of our end and skating it up ice will ultimately lead to odd-man rushes or breakaways.There just wasn't enough of that last night.Our Broad Street Bullies have the speed and depth to compete with New Jersey's extremely good defensive game. Right now it's a question of who wants it more, and can our star players rise to the challenge?Danny Briere can't do it all himself. He came up huge with an equalizer just past the midway point of the 3rd period which took us into Overtime. But he cannot keep doing it all on his own.Oddly enough, it wasn't the Devils cycling or forechecking that gained them the game-winning goal in the extra stanza. It was confusion on our bench that led to a premature line change while Kovalchuk still possessed the puck at mid-ice. There wasn't enough Flyers players on the backcheck to contest a stampeding Alexei Ponikarovsky who combated for a rebound off his shot, and put the second-chance behind Ilya Bryzgalov.Missed assignments and missed opportunities are what the Devils are counting on from our end. So far, we're feeding straight into it. We're not playing our game, and we're failing to familiarize ourselves with New Jersey's strategy. For that, we're not strengthening our threat as the game grows on. Instead, our Flyers are skating on some kind of plateau with no progression, and each time our drive hits a pothole....the Devils are right there to run us off the road.Clean it up, boys. The Series depends on it.Back in the day when the Flyers played dump and chase hockey the Devils (ironically) used to kill us by having Marty go out and play the puck then quick forward it to his dmen..doesn't allow time for the other teams forward to establish a forecheck... I think we need Bryz to be more active playing the puck and setting up breakouts.. Quote
Bakanekimiwa Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 it seems to me that an effective strategy would be to box out the slot. forwards need to come down low a bit... just watch the rangers team D. if they end up playing jersey, i think they will be successful breaking up the cycle. box out the slot and get sticks in lanes and take bodies out that cross ice. the D can focus on clearing the crease and manning each post instead of running around chasing the puck handlers... like they've been doing. essentially... we need to stop chasing them around. we know where they're trying to go(the net for you slow types). from there, we have a pretty good transition offense and can create breakaways with our speed. if we get enough breakaways from breaking up their cycle.. maybe they'll get off their game. i thought it was pretty obvious after game 2 that we'd need to do something about their cycle and it looked as if our coaching staff did nothing in regards to their cycle. Quote
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 ... I think we need Bryz to be more active playing the puck and setting up breakouts..Put the bong down and back away from the crack pipe! The last thing the Flyers need is to have Bryz trying to be Brodeur. He has a hard enough time playing his own game. Quote
Irishjim Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I gotta agree AFF bryz is really really did i say really bad playing the puck Quote
The Quigster Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Be Patient! He is only 31 yr.old. Maybe Homer has a suggestion? Quote
Spinorama Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 I would insert Kubina and scratch Gus... the only way to stop cycling is to win the physical battles and were not doing that right now..I'm hesitant but I agree. I'm not the biggest fan of Kubina but we need physical play and that's not Gus' game Quote
Spinorama Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 we know where they're trying to go(the net for you slow types)haha!it seems to me that an effective strategy would be to box out the slot. forwards need to come down low a bitAbsolutely. I still think on D, the forwards are still spending too much time near the blue line assuming the team will get the puck back and they need to be ready to spring up on offense before the Devils have a chance to react. They all, or at least 2 of the 3 need to get back and play full on D. Quote
Spinorama Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 He has a hard enough time playing his own game.true that!I don't mind him coming out to break up dump ins and what not but I haven't seen the stick handling ability from him to suggest that he could actually make a breakout pass. Quote
doom88 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Maybe its time to gamble with RInaldo and a phantom penalty for some excitable play. The line that follows Rinaldo usually has more pep as well. Quote
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