hf101 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 E5 ....JVR is gone.Well this was rumored last spring. It works for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKerrFan12 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) Details to follow. E5Well this was rumored last spring.Stupid, Stupid Stupid!! Is that a 1 for 1 fair trade?? Stupid!Luke Schenn is our saviour on defense? So much for Bobby Ryan, so much for Ryan Suter. Edited June 23, 2012 by TimKerrFan12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 That sucks! Please tell me we got a pick also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 THIS SUCKS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Dammit. Luke Schenn sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I'm ok with it. It is a trade of needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Hmmm...Not sure what to think of this as I haven't really watched Luke Schenn much myself. I remember last time this rumor went around, the prevailing opinion on this board wasn't all that high on him.But I do know that now we definitely need a winger for Giroux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 @everyonei'm wondering if the whole... no labrum repair surgery was the final, straw....i'm trying to remember if the hip labrum injury was why Nittiamaki was ultimately let go, perhaps the brain trust thinks it will hamper JvR as long as he plays hockey.i know @jammer2 has not had a lot of good things to say about big brother schenn, but perhaps it's because he has "leaf stench" on him and if he gets paired with a good player... Timmonen ; maybe he can be coached up , to where the game slows down for him. he kind of had no real mentoring up there as they were all young and stupid and Leafs, also maybe playing with his younger brother will perk him up.I'd have like a pick or something to come back, but at least the defensive need has been partially addressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I think you got the better end of this deal. I'm surprised you got Schenn for just JVR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Bummer, but JVR was expendable. This should put any other rumors to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKerrFan12 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Curse of the hockey jersey. Bought my Son a JVR jersey for last Christmas. Any Leafs fans want a used JVR jersey.Years ago I also bought a Mike Ricci jersey I wore for half a Season. Is it safe to buy any player's jersey these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Hmmm...Not sure what to think of this as I haven't really watched Luke Schenn much myself. I remember last time this rumor went around, the prevailing opinion on this board wasn't all that high on him.But I do know that now we definitely need a winger for Giroux.Also true. No JVR, not likely to resign Jagr...who goes up? Voracek? Convert Schenn to a wing? Bobby Ryan lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I think you got the better end of this deal. I'm surprised you got Schenn for just JVR.Why do you say that? Just wondering. I think if both players achieved their max potential the would be pretty equal. We needed a solid young dman with the ability to be a #1-3. It worked for both teams. I say it's equal now and we will see what happens in 3-4 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Also true. No JVR, not likely to resign Jagr...who goes up? Voracek? Convert Schenn to a wing? Bobby Ryan lol.I think that's what he has to go now. Giroux needs a true #1 winger imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 @doom88Maybe they are more likely to sign Jagr now. It almost looks as if Holmgren has intent to sign a FA winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Well, our already suspect blue line just took on the worst "deer in headlights" player this side of Milan Jurcina (Milan is pound for pound the worst player in the NHL IMHO). He will get eaten alive in Philly. He will throw the puck out front in a panic....does it all the time. My Leaf fan buddies ( I know, I know....lol) all calling me and saying...."well, JVR might or might not suck....I know that Luke sucks" so we won the trade...LOL! I would think a draft pick coming back to us would even this travisty out for us. Good point made by Mojo...getting mentored by Timmonen is MUCH different than Phaneuf....so maybe there is hope. I've never been impressed by Luke, but even myself, admittedly a big detractor....has to admit he still has upside....AND hits like a truck. So there is worse things. At least the drama that was JVR is over. Would have liked to see this guy go for a more legit roster player...but he's not legit yet so why should we get that back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I also forgot that Luke Schenn has a right handed shot. I'm liking this deal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 On the bright side, Luke Schenn is a righty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I also forgot that Luke Schenn has a right handed shot. I'm liking this deal.Just beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 maybe i'm overestimating JVR and underestimating Schenn, but i don't like this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jammer2 Posted June 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2012 @hf101 Well, another bright spot, we finally traded a player who will not come back and win the cup on us!! LMAO! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernardmarcel1 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I also forgot that Luke Schenn has a right handed shot. I'm liking this deal.I was bummed at first, but 6-2, 220...the kids only 22 w/ 4 NHL seasons under his belt. Any kid playing prime time D minutes for a suck azz team like the Laffs will struggle. Clearly Homer is going the route he did w/ Jake - change of scenery for a top 10 draft pick that was lauguishing on a bottom tier team. Looks like he got a big, physical first round Dman after all....I'd like to be hopeful on this one in that it could be 3-4 more years before a big kid like Luke Schenn really hits his prime development-wise.Anyone know his cap hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 @bernardmarcel1 Think it's around 3.4 or 3.5...so we saved a mill in or around that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I was bummed at first, but 6-2, 220...the kids only 22 w/ 4 NHL seasons under his belt. Any kid playing prime time D minutes for a suck azz team like the Laffs will struggle. Clearly Homer is going the route he did w/ Jake - change of scenery for a top 10 draft pick that was lauguishing on a bottom tier team. Looks like he got a big, physical first round Dman after all....I'd like to be hopeful on this one in that it could be 3-4 more years before a big kid like Luke Schenn really hits his prime development-wise.Anyone know his cap hit?$3.6m/yr until end of 2015/16 NMC eligible in last year of deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 3.6m cap hit, modified NTC in the last year (yr 5). He's in yr 2, and due less $ than his cap hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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