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What do you guys think would be a fair trade for Weber assuming that Poile will match our offer sheet unless we agree to trade back roster players for some or all of the 4 first round picks they will get. Obvioulsy there are hundreds of possible combinations but I think it takes at least 1 young gun roster player plus picks.

Voracek and 3 firsts? (too much imo)

Voracek and Read and a second round pick?

Read and MAB and second?

What do you guys think would be a fair deal?

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Why would there have to be a trade?????? I just don't get this notion at all. The Preds get their first round picks and that's the end of it. Otherwise, they can keep Weber. Makes no sense whatsoever to improve the defense - even if improving means adding a player of Weber's caliber - at the expense of weakening the offense.....

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Why would there have to be a trade?????? I just don't get this notion at all. The Preds get their first round picks and that's the end of it. Otherwise, they can keep Weber. Makes no sense whatsoever to improve the defense - even if improving means adding a player of Weber's caliber - at the expense of weakening the offense.....

There doesnt HAVE to be a trade, but common thinking right now is that Poile is working with Homer to make a deal for roster players or he will match our offer to Weber. Depends on how bad we want Weber or if Nashville can even afford to sign Weber now.

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none..because i really dont see preds matching because they were trying to trade him before the flyers sent the offer sheet and that's a sign right there that they cant afford him in the first place

If true, that would be pretty bold for Homer to call Poile's bluff and say "either take 4 first round picks or sign him, up to you."

I would love to see that!

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No trade. Take the picks or keep Weber. I'm not trading assests based on them threatening to match.

@trevluk

Why would there have to be a trade?????? I just don't get this notion at all. The Preds get their first round picks and that's the end of it. Otherwise, they can keep Weber. Makes no sense whatsoever to improve the defense - even if improving means adding a player of Weber's caliber - at the expense of weakening the offense.....

Exactly, play to win.

I keep seeing this, and I gotta be honest, I think this is totally unrealistic.

First of all, Weber is a franchise player, and a guy who people (at least or especially in Nashville) will pay to watch. The reason you need to trade assets back to Nashville is that they can't afford to take the hit from a PR standpoint without getting something exciting for the franchise back, and the fate of hockey in Nashville more or less depends on him. Four first round picks is nothing to shake a stick at, especially with the Preds track record of drafting and grooming players, but those players are years away from playing in the NHL and that franchise needs something NOW to keep it viable. This is why it's unrealistic to expect that Nashville won't match the offer unless they get something back.

And as far as what they're expecting back, it'll be one of the young guys (Schenn or Couts) and another roster player and two picks. If I'm Nashville, I don't care how much its going to cost me to keep Weber, but that's the return I need to get back to make this work.

I know what all of us are willing to give up (Vorachek, Read, Mez, etc.) but those guys are guys who are nice to have, great for team depth, guys who you need to have on your team to be successful. But those aren't core guys, those are the in-betweens that are better than role players but not stars. I'd love to get away with this deal giving up someone like Vorachek and Mez, but it's not happening for the same reasons it wouldn't happen if the shoe was on the other foot. This isn't an NHL video game, this is real life, and Poile isn't the NHL equivalent of Ed Wade.

That being said, if the cost is one of the young guys and another roster player not named Giroux, I still do the deal, because Weber is a cornerstone guy who'll legitimize your defense for the next 10 years while the core comes into it's prime and we have time to build the rest of the roster up. I guarantee you that while the deal may hurt in the short term, in the long term it will pay HUGE dividends. Plus, Weber (just like Pronger) is a born Flyer, how can we not want him to come here?

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What do you guys think would be a fair trade for Weber assuming that Poile will match our offer sheet unless we agree to trade back roster players for some or all of the 4 first round picks they will get. Obvioulsy there are hundreds of possible combinations but I think it takes at least 1 young gun roster player plus picks.

Voracek and 3 firsts? (too much imo)

Voracek and Read and a second round pick?

Read and MAB and second?

What do you guys think would be a fair deal?

Realisticly, I think a reasonable deal would be either Read or Voracek plus Mez, MAB, and a 1st next year.

That may seem high, but it could really smooth things over.

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i think everyone is mentioning those players because homer has refused to give up coots or schenns. this is why they went the RFA offer sheet route to begin with. they were not liking poile's requested players and now they are forcing his hand precisely so that he HAS to accept lesser players in return or pay the price.

homer has their entire organization over a barrel over this. it's one thing to say 'we'll match any offer' and a whole other things to pay one guy $27m guaranteed in the next year whether there is a hockey season or not. if i'm homer, i try to appease their saving face for the 'now' by them getting the 2 firsts and MAB and Read. no more than that. that's my top offer and if they don't like it.. they take the 4 firsts or suck up the salary for weber.

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Nah, they would at least need Lilja too.

Yeah, I'd do that...for $1000 cash (small bills) or certified check.

Seriously, I'd let Nashville keep our picks and try to get one or two of their first round picks in exchange for maybe Gus/MAB and maybe Read. I'm not sure if Read is a one season wonder or a long term solid player.

The assumption on getting a Nashville pick instead of any of our 4x 1st rounders is the Nashville pick would be better picks.

That said, I'm a better fan than GM. :-))

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