King Knut Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Poile is an idiot who just bankrupted his team.Well done moron. You could have kept your team competitive for the next ten years while simultaneously forcing the sale of a boatload of new jerseys, but instead you chose to piss off your captain and force him into acting your franchise player when it SHOULD BE QUITE obvious by now that the last thing that Shea Weber wants to be is a Nashville predator.If you do trade him in a year or four, because he hates his life and asks you for a trade (Rick Nash ring a bell you morons?) whatever you're going to get for him will have cost you Shea Weber AND 30 million dollars.IDIOTS. FLAT OUT IDIOTS.So Homer doesn't get Weber, but he has the satisfaction of knowing that beating homer will literally cost the franchise their existence within a few years.The Predators simply DO NOT have the market to make this deal worth their while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 let it all out Knut... let it all out... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsippius Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 @King KnutVent brother, we're here for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevluk Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The Predators simply DO NOT have the market to make this deal worth their while.with profit sharing, they dont need the market, they take from everyone else's market.you may be right, but Weber could be the only thing that saves the franchise. If they can weather the first few years of the contract, Weber becomes a very reasonable deal at 7.8 mil as the cornerstone of the franchise for his career. The sad thing is, he could have been the cornerstone of the Flyers franchise for his career too, in obviously a MUCH bigger hockey market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 There's a waiting line to get on the B. Franklin bridge to jump off. I'm pissed also but tomorrow is another day... Just can't wait for the news articles to die down and we can talk about the all encompassing and facinating CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) with profit sharing, they dont need the market, they take from everyone else's market.you may be right, but Weber could be the only thing that saves the franchise. If they can weather the first few years of the contract, Weber becomes a very reasonable deal at 7.8 mil as the cornerstone of the franchise for his career. The sad thing is, he could have been the cornerstone of the Flyers franchise for his career too, in obviously a MUCH bigger hockey market.OOOOooooocccccchhhhhhhh!Amen brotha can i get a witness??????Edit:The ultimate EFF YOU to Homer by Poile....now you've shown your hand, you want this dude BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD so next year when we can trade him it's gonna cost you double or i traded him to the Rags for nothing!!!! Edited July 24, 2012 by hf101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 with profit sharing, they dont need the market, they take from everyone else's market.you may be right, but Weber could be the only thing that saves the franchise.Profit sharing won't cover all the signing bonuses. Weber can't carry the team or the franchise on his own. Rick Nash tried that and failed miserably.It won't be any different for Weber.My guess is that Nashville still plans to trade him (probably to the Flyers) they just want to get what they want for him. I say chances are good Homer calls their bluff and lets them play it out with the 110 million dollar man. he knows they can't do it.You may be able to wipe up the ice with his team ON the ice, but you don't screw with Homer in business. Poile's dug himself a hole no single player can dig him out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I don't think the Predators will be trading Weber anytime soon...unless he holds out and demands a trade. They are going to pay him $27 million in the next 341 days. Assuming there's a season..if not, he still gets his signing bonus this year AND next July 1st..so it's $26 million, minimum between now and July 1, 2013. Doubt this team makes that kind of financial commitment to a player they intend to move in 15 months....highly doubtful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The ultimate EFF YOU to Homer by Poile....now you've shown your hand, you want this dude BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD so next year when we can trade him it's gonna cost you double or i traded him to the Rags for nothing!!!!I think the league would nullify any such deal on the grounds that Poile is completely insane.Now that I mention it, the league may fully be not okay with this deal as it is. There was never any guarantee that if the deadline passed and we got him that the league wouldn't look at this and say, WTF!! You can't do this Homer!" especially not while we're going to be pretending for another decade that Pronger might come back and while they're in a heated debate with the Player's union over exactly the issue of front loaded decade long contracts with huge signing bonuses.Still... I wouldn't be surprised if now that they've signed him, we see Homer make a trade for him. This could just be a ploy for Poile to get something he really wants if he knows he has to lose Weber either way. Homer may just tell him to go to hell, you had your chance.Personally, I probably would have taken one of the earlier deals he was offered or the 4 first rounders guaranteed by the deal because either way, it's going to be a lot easier for a team like Nashville to sign a player like Shea Weber Next year under the new CBA than it is now.That's the other part of this... after the new CBA, a player like Weber won't be able to command a 14 year contract... they're trying to get the maximum contract length down to 5 years. Chances are good they'll end up around 7 or so which is still but, but it will handcuff guys like Homer and The Wild from throwing around deals like these big names got this summer.Ultimately my point is, it would be a HELL of a lot cheaper for Poile to replace Weber next off season with whoever the top D man is then. Still the smartest thing to trade him right back to us now for Poile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 @King KnutWeber can not be traded anywhere for a year...by offer sheet/CBA rules. If the Preds want to trade him...it won't be for 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quigster Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 The amazing thing is what the Preds did to keep Webber,but didn't seem to try with Suter,except to sing "Mammy" after he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Knut... i know you are mad but Weber CANNOT BE TRADED... it is over man... let it go and save your sanity. Over, complete, final... weber is a predator... moving along... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedZep Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Holmgren toyed with our affections by even making that deal.What we have to take away from this is that no other team will have Weber, and the Predators will sink back into the mud.He tried to get out, but Poile's pride dragged him back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 @I would get much better satisfaction out of the Flyers' bankrupting the Rangers, or Pinguins, but I guess this will have to do it....... as a consolation price for not getting Weber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo 47 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 with profit sharing, they dont need the market, they take from everyone else's market.Sad but true fact in Bettman's NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This will have little effect on the organization. They'll spend to the cap as they've promised. They've got a guy named Wilson Who is an eccentric multi-billionaire who will back what they do. By all accounts he's a very shrewd businessman who has a little nasty streak in his business side. There's been talk of him buying the majority if the team starts to flounder. The guy has money to burn and apparently doesn't mind doing it if need be. It's okay man! Holmgren took an all or nothing and lost. It was a daring attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 They've got a guy named WilsonI heard he is now up to a 20% stake in the team..not too long ago, it was only 5%, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I heard he is now up to a 20% stake in the team..not too long ago, it was only 5%, I believe.I tried researching it again but the only thing I could find still showed 5% so sorry if my info was dated. Either way, eccentric billionaire somewhere in the mix... who knows what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatGazoo Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 @Polaris922No worries! I meant it more to agree with your point, that the guy with tons of money is getting more involved and throwing his weight behind the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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