OzFlyer Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I didn't see the game live and don't see any reports. What happened for the upper/lower body injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoDocks Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Saying a pulled groin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yep pulled groin. The thought is he is out until at least Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 fuuuuuuckk... he was carrying my fantasy team. who woulda thunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbulb Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Jagr's groin is made of paper maché. I remember him constantly have groin issues while with the rags and caps. I'm surprised this is the first 'flare up' he's had so far. Unfortunately, at his age, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a lingering issue that bugs him all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFlyfan Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Jagr's groin is made of paper maché. I remember him constantly have groin issues while with the rags and caps. I'm surprised this is the first 'flare up' he's had so far. Unfortunately, at his age, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a lingering issue that bugs him all season.gee, for someone that's 'constantly had issues' he sure was able to continuously rack up points on a consistent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersFan4Life Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Flyers general manager updated his condition following the team's 2-1 win over the Coyotes.“He’s got a little bit of a thing in his lower-body. We don’t think it’s anything serious. I talked to Jaromir and he thinks within a couple days he should be better so I guess that leaves him out for the next game, but hopefully we’ll get him back Monday, but nobody thinks it’s serious.”Holmgren went on to say that he believes the injury occurred during the second shift of the game against Phoenix and that it’s a new injury not anything that has bothered him in the past.http://flyers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=64095&navid=DL|PHI|home Edited November 18, 2011 by FlyersFan4Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Thanks, I guess it is to be expected at his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Just don't let McCrossin treat him, and Jagr will be as good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbulb Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 gee, for someone that's 'constantly had issues' he sure was able to continuously rack up points on a consistent basis.Didn't say he doesn't rack up points... ask any rags or caps fans. His groin is a constant issue.*Points to the many references to groin injuries in this list*And this is only the "reported" incidences... how many did he play through?2001/10/12Leg injury, day-to-day.2002/01/11Groin, day-to-day.2002/01/22Missed 6 games (groin).2002/11/29Missed 1 game (groin).2003/01/18Strained groin, left Saturday's game.2003/11/26Groin, left Wednesday's game (Didn't miss any games).2004/02/13Groin, day-to-day.2004/02/19Missed 2 games (groin).http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=343Do you see a pattern anywhere here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFlyfan Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 He missed maybe 12 games between 2001-2004 and this is an "issue' ?Cmon' . It's not like he's Forsberg pretending his foot is fine or Marc Savard saying his head feels 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbulb Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I give up... that is a small sample over only a 3-4 year stretch. oh... and he was 7 years younger then. And that's only the times he actually 'missed'... not the games he played at less than 100%, etc. Agree to disagree, but if you're not concerned about a 39 year old player who injures his groin with his history?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Do you see a pattern anywhere here?Yeah, he hasn't had a groin injury in 7years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFlyfan Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I give up... that is a small sample over only a 3-4 year stretch. oh... and he was 7 years younger then. And that's only the times he actually 'missed'... not the games he played at less than 100%, etc.Agree to disagree, but if you're not concerned about a 39 year old player who injures his groin with his history?...At this point Jagr at 39 feeling 40% with a sore groin is better than Brayden Schenn...at least on the ice. That's more concerning to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 What's concerning? That Schenn didn't score 10 goals in his 4 games he's played? C'mon SoCal, it's 4 games. I'd rather see this type of learning curve than Al Hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 gee, for someone that's 'constantly had issues' he sure was able to continuously rack up points on a consistent basis.here they come out of the woodwork... how long before it's 'trade jagr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinorama Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 here they come out of the woodwork... how long before it's 'trade jagr?the guy said he's had problems before and he pointed out that he's 39 and predicts this might be a recurring problem in the future... sounds reasonable, didn't sound like over reacting to me. This penchant for everyone going to the extreme is actually a little annoying. Complaining about something doesn't automatically mean going off the deep end, people need to stop reacting as if that's happening... it stunts discussion.Sorry wasn't directing this entirely at you... just a trend I've been noticing that's been kinda annoying. I find myself constantly trying to type things ever so gently when it comes to constructive criticism because people tend to over react to the slightest criticism and it takes too much effort to get people to see that. Perfect example, can you tell the difference between: "JVR SUCKS!" and JVR is off to a disappointing start?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Complaining about something doesn't automatically mean going off the deep end, people need to stop reacting as if that's happening... it stunts discussion.Well said Spinaroo, Jagr IS 39, the best thing he, Briere, Timo, Prongs, and others can do is build up their conditioning on the weakest Link in the chain of there ancillary struture. This is not the first case with groin injuries, as many fans were questioning the training staff with many of our players were having groin issues. It's often the least conditioned part of the body in training along with plyometric stretching...Qu'est-ce que c'est ...degueulasse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbulb Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 the guy said he's had problems before and he pointed out that he's 39 and predicts this might be a recurring problem in the future... sounds reasonable, didn't sound like over reacting to me. This penchant for everyone going to the extreme is actually a little annoying. Complaining about something doesn't automatically mean going off the deep end, people need to stop reacting as if that's happening... it stunts discussion.Sorry wasn't directing this entirely at you... just a trend I've been noticing that's been kinda annoying. I find myself constantly trying to type things ever so gently when it comes to constructive criticism because people tend to over react to the slightest criticism and it takes too much effort to get people to see that. Perfect example, can you tell the difference between: "JVR SUCKS!" and JVR is off to a disappointing start?"Thanks spin... I guess I should just keep out my pom poms instead of having an opinion. I'm just shocked that no one remembers the crazy drama with Jagr's groin while he was in the NHL.Was it as bad as Foppa's foot?...no, but honestly, it really wasn't far off if you ask some rags/caps fans.I'm just concerned at his age that it's going to be a long term issue he'll be dealing with. Don't want him traded... didn't say he doesn't score.*done* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Jagr back skating and taking shots today. Tomorrow's game is still questionable. I actually hope he takes a couple more days off to make sure he is completely healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Jagr back skating and taking shots today. Tomorrow's game is still questionable. I actually hope he takes a couple more days off to make sure he is completely healed.Totally agree. We don't NEED him right now, let him get 100%.And yes, we need better and smarter trainers. I'll leave it at that for now, lest I type another ranting wall of text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I think the Flyers organization should really put some smart investment on updating our trainers, I know we have the family mentality. Which I could understand if you had a good uncle with all the best intentions working in your IT department, and he kept blue screening the desktops and laptops.(AYE) you Fire him or (BEE) you Retrain him at BEST Practice'sessississ. That's all I'm gonna say, and that's all I HAVE! to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 McCrossin is to trainers what Lemelin was to goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 McCrossin is to trainers what Lemelin was to goalies.They did get Clarke out of the GM spot, and Lemelin out of the goaltending coach spot, trainers/docs are next in line I hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 He was seen leaving the ice late in the first period to head to the locker room with what was originally described as an equipment issue. But when he left the game for good after just two shifts in the second period it was obvious that it was something related to an injury.When asked after the game if it was an old injury Jagr simply said, "I got speared last game and there was swelling in that muscle. Maybe because it was too cold and we couldn't heat it." More Winter Classic Coverage He would only say that the injury was to his left leg and would not specify where, exactly, the injury was bothering him. He also said that he knew immediately after his second shift in the second period that he wouldn't be able to return to the game, and even though he never took another shift, he remained on the bench the remainder of the game and even hinted that he might have had an opportunity to play in the third period if the Flyers would have had a two-man advantage."I like my teammates and wanted to part of that," said Jagr of his decision to return to the bench. "I knew it wasn't going to get any worse if I sit on the bench, and I want to be part of that. I'm part of the team and to sit here I would watch it on TV anyway. That way I was close, and you never know, maybe there would be a power play or a 5-on-3 and coach would put me back in there."Jagr said he didn't think the injury was serious and that he "should be back soon." CBS Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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