activestick Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think I would part with anyone except Giroux for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Why do the Flyers need another young forward? Defense seems to be the problem from my observation..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I am w/ Bert on this one... we need defense and no another forward. Unless he can play defense I really dont see the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activestick Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think we need defense and a power forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activestick Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 and a goalie. Ok, I'm asking a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeZel25 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think I would part with anyone except Giroux for him.Only way you get him is Couts. I doubt teams are so infatuated with Brayden Schenn anymore, they all want Couts and that is a solid NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Defense, Defense, Defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 @activestickHartnell and Simmonds and even to an extent Schenn will fill that role (power forward). The team just seems like they are in a funk. I think Lavy needs to skate them till they puke. Seriously skate them hard. Set curfews, dining times, mandatory skates, etc. Be a real f'n ball buster. The players will find unity in hating Lavy. Once they start playing well, give them a little back. It's a shame that millionaires need to be treated like children, but in this case, they are playing like a bunch.On a side note, and not trying to make excuses, It doesn't help that our first four opponents are actually decent squads. Bryz held up enough to win last night, but they seemed to get too cutesy with the puck. What I have learned from the past 17-18 years of watching Marty, is that you pepper the $hit out of him and crash the net. I know it sounds easy and that I should leave the bountiful world of corporate finance for hockey coaching......anyhow.....When he (marty) is on his game he is unstoppable. Defensive breakdowns happen, but maybe once or twice a game, not every other shift. The problem starts and ends with Lavy. He needs to crush their spirits. I'd have Captain Giroux cleaning crappers at the WF Center, Harnell washing equipment, Bryzgalov parking cars, whatever it takes. I feel the Marine just oozing out of my pours as I am typing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activestick Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 @activestickHartnell and Simmonds and even to an extent Schenn will fill that role (power forward). The team just seems like they are in a funk. I think Lavy needs to skate them till they puke. Seriously skate them hard. Set curfews, dining times, mandatory skates, etc. Be a real f'n ball buster. The players will find unity in hating Lavy. Once they start playing well, give them a little back. It's a shame that millionaires need to be treated like children, but in this case, they are playing like a bunch.On a side note, and not trying to make excuses, It doesn't help that our first four opponents are actually decent squads.Bryz held up enough to win last night, but they seemed to get too cutesy with the puck. What I have learned from the past 17-18 years of watching Marty, is that you pepper the $hit out of him and crash the net. I know it sounds easy and that I should leave the bountiful world of corporate finance for hockey coaching......anyhow.....When he (marty) is on his game he is unstoppable. Defensive breakdowns happen, but maybe once or twice a game, not every other shift.The problem starts and ends with Lavy. He needs to crush their spirits. I'd have Captain Giroux cleaning crappers at the WF Center, Harnell washing equipment, Bryzgalov parking cars, whatever it takes.I feel the Marine just oozing out of my pours as I am typing.Hahaha. I hope you're right.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If you really go with the "Lavy must crush them" approach, you may as well start looking for a new coach now.That room will run and hide faster than you would believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think I would part with anyone except Giroux for him.From what I heard, the Stars are close to reaching the agreement with him. But I don't see any need for him. As most of the people in this thread said, the Flyers need a defenseman (and preferably two) and a goaltender to replace a miltimillionaire joke that we have, not a forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH1FlyersFan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 My vote is also no - we need defense...or a goalie. We have a great crop of young forwards who just need a little more experience - a season or two. Don't break those 11 forwards up yet. Keep that group, play them together, let them develop together and bring in some experienced D. I'm convinced our offense is going to be amazing, best in the league type of offense, if we just let this group mature together. This season isn't necessarily showing it, but we saw the potential, flashes of brilliance, last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Nope, find a new goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I've always said, build from the net on out. The Flyers historically don't adhere to that old adage...ever since the Clarke days. The guy with Bernie Parent in net somehow came to the conclusion that the tender was not important, an extra throw in type.....go figure.Benn is an elite talent, he would be expensive. I agree with others, fix what is wrong and don't get sidetracked. What I really like about Benn is his work on the pk, he's a threat every time out there on the pk. Elite work ethic, super smart, super skilled..... if the trade did not include Couts, I would at least listen. edit, ha ha....I think I talked myself out my original stance during the post.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 If the defense was better, Bryz would look like a stud. Fix the D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I think we need defense and a power forward.Defense first. Also, I would disagree anyone except Giroux for Benn. I like Benn, but I am not giving any of our centers to get him (including Schenn). Other than D and G, centers are the next highest commodity in the NHL. It is probably the hardest position to play because you have to play 200 feet (not just 120 like the other positions). Also, I am not sure what the problem is with him not wanting to sign with Dallas (ie sitting out), but I don't want a 23 year prima-dona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 @radoranMaybe they can bake cakes together sweetheart..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearOnIce Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I think we need defense and a power forward.You got your wish. Mike Knuble. Hot from the Grand Rapid Griffins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 You got your wish. Mike Knuble. Hot from the Grand Rapid Griffins.Assuming Simmonds replaces Hartnell, Knuble can replace Simmonds in front of the net on his line. Not bad for depth and professionalism overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 well he signed a 5 yr / ~5 million deal with the Stars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Assuming Simmonds replaces Hartnell, Knuble can replace Simmonds in front of the net on his line.Not for nothing, but isn't Hartnell a LW? Simmonds and Knuble are both RW's. Knuble is going to be a role player. Truthfully, I would put Wellwood up there. You could put rusty up there too, but Wellwood would be my choice. His speed alone and defensive responsibility would be enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 @Vanflyer Wellwood on the top line? I love his speed but the poor bastard has hands of stone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 @flyercanuckNodl 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Not for nothing, but isn't Hartnell a LW? Simmonds and Knuble are both RW's. Knuble is going to be a role player. Truthfully, I would put Wellwood up there. You could put rusty up there too, but Wellwood would be my choice. His speed alone and defensive responsibility would be enough for me.I guess it's a question over natural position or responsibility. I'd rather keep someone's rear end on the goalie's mask personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Wellwood on the top line? I love his speed but the poor bastard has hands of stoneYou put him there for a warm body (and his defensive abilities), not for his Fred Flintstone attributes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I guess it's a question over natural position or responsibility. I'd rather keep someone's rear end on the goalie's mask personally.Or goalies mask or the oppositions goalies mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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