doom88 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 It would never happen but....would you take Depres and a 2nd for Simmonds? Keep in mind young, cheap, offensive puck moving defencemen do not grow on trees.Nor do emerging power forwards. So, F no. We've got Gus looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 @flyercanuck Sad to hear about the North fc, the almighty buck strikes again.....and what politicians *think* people want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH1FlyersFan Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why trade Simmonds to your in-conference, in-division arch nemesis/rival? I wouldn't send a guy like him to the Penguins. Jody Shelley, on the other hand, now we're talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Nor do emerging power forwards. So, F no. We've got Gus looking good.Heck of a lot easier to find than young, offensively skilled puck moving defenCemen (outside of the Pens' farm system that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why trade Simmonds to your in-conference, in-division arch nemesis/rival? I wouldn't send a guy like him to the Penguins. Jody Shelley, on the other hand, now we're talking!Like I said....would never happen but.....take the sweaters out of the equation....would you do that deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The Pens are SO stockpiled on young d-men, they should be able to pick out the young most promising stars and ship some of the left overs (some WICKED left overs mind you), to address the lack of young power forwards in their system. They are in the rare position to be set at center, defense and goalie, so WHAM.....they have the ability to fix whatever shortcomings they will have at winger...in spades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 They are in the rare position to be set at center, defense and goalie, so WHAM.....they have the ability to fix whatever shortcomings they will have at winger...in spades.true-ish. cap space is the roadblock. malkin is UFA summer after next, as is letang. $32.5mil tied up in crosby, malkin, neal, martin and fleury right now. raises to malkin and letang, and it starts to get hard to hold onto high end talent after that. if they end up with $40mil in 6 players, even if the cap climbs to $70mil, that's $30mil for the other 14-17 guys. starts to get thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 @aziz They can trade Malkin for a boatload of young cheap talent. Shero has done a nice job there. They had the luck of the Crosby draft, and the luck of getting stuck with malkin at #2. But I don't know of another team that has as many great defensive prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 @aziz I see what you mean, it does get pretty tight. Good GM's will find a way to make it work, but the Pens GM would have his back to the wall trying to add any type of winger with offensive flair. Even if they build through the draft, ie, defensive prospects for high draft picks, they would still have the window open with the other guys still in their primes when the draft picks are ready to contribute. Seems like patience is the way to go for the Pens. Try to add good cheap point production from the wing in the short term and draft to suit your needs in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 @flyercanucksure, but if they trade malkin, it gets tough to call them set at center anymore, with brandon sutter running the second line. and yes, they'd get a ton of prospects back for malkin, and have a ton of prospects in the system, but....then they are in the same world the flyers are in now, trying to fill the bulk of their roster with prospects and projects and hopefully-he'll-be-awesome-one-day-soon.the strength of the penguins over the last half decade or so has been being completely stacked at the top. not with guys who will one day turn out great, but guys who were great right out of the juniors gate. as we have seen with coburn and schenn and JVR and giroux and voraceck and richards and carter and carle and parent and lupul and upshall and sbisa and downie, etc, all the but the top of the top of the top prospects take time and often don't turn out as might be hoped. if the penguins go from being a team with many players that are established as among the best in the league at their positions to a team laden with hopeful prospects...well, that's a different thing entirely. i'm not saying they aren't going to be scarey good, but the math is way less clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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