hf101 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 D.Dreger on TSN690 says there has been talk of Couturier for B.Ryan between teams but it may not happen at the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 My guess is we'd have to add. There's also cap issues. Dreger is fairly reliable, but it's just a rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 My guess is we'd have to add. There's also cap issues. Dreger is fairly reliable, but it's just a rumor.As why it is posted in this forum. I think it has merit though, the Ducks probably want to shed some cap space as well. The Flyers would have to buy out Briere for cap space and assume Laughton would replace Couturier at center. I'm on the fence in deciding if I like it or not. we would have Ryan for two years at 5.1M and then he probably would get more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 @hf101It would all depend on what we'd have to add. Our 1st? Forget it. We definately could use a scoring, make that young scoring winger more than a center. But I'd much rather trade Couturier as part of a deal for a Dman. IF we're trading him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I agree with FC. Though I like the idea of Bobby Ryan, I just do not see how Couturier will get the job done. Though I do like the thought of Giroux centering Ryan and Voracek. I just wouldn't waste any of our picks on him.Would love to see the D re-shaped if he were traded, but that may be a tough find at this point.I would like to see:Ryan-Giroux-VoracekSimmonds-Schenn-ReadMcGinn-Laughton-RinaldoZolnierczyk-Talbot-Phantom Call-UpMove: Hartnell, Couturier (assumed part of trade) to ANABuy-out: Briere2013 1st Round: Seth Jones (wishful thinking)Target Emery to back Bryzgalov and a puck moving D-man (not sure who UFA market weak). Edited March 26, 2013 by Bertmega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 As much as I like Bobby Ryan, any trade that the Flyers make needs to have a top 4 D-man in the return. Until the Flyers address the glaring short comings of the current defense, they are going nowhere.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 As much as I like Bobby Ryan, any trade that the Flyers make needs to have a top 4 D-man in the return. Until the Flyers address the glaring short comings of the current defense, they are going nowhere....Giroux does need a winger that can create unlike Hartnell who really only benefits from Giroux/Jake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 @DigitymanI agree. But we need a defenceman waaaaaaaay more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 @flyercanuckI agree 100%, but I see the defense (defence) getting better over time. I would hate to see another Pronger type move that hurts the team over the long run.If ANA agreed to it, perhaps this could be a blockbuster situation:To ANA: Hartnell, Couturier, B. ManningTo PHL: Ryan, Sbisa, 2013 2ndIt is pretty balanced from a $$ standpoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent05 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 How about we trade Couts for Ryan if Anaheim needs cap space, Ryan holds more value then Couts now. Maybe deal Ryan or another winger(Hartnell?) for the dman we need. We wouldn't have to give up a lot more with Ryan in a deal then with Couts. Briere would still be bought out for Cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 @Bertmega I would never do a Pronger type deal. Getting a defenceman in his 20s, sure. 35, for all that? No thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 @flyercanuckYeah I hear that. 25-27 should be the target age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 The Ducks need a Winger more than they need a centre. Gotta say it is just a slow news day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Can they trade all the Flyers for all the Ducks? That way AndyS could still watch one of his favorite teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 If we are giving up any of the young kids it HAS to be for a D man... Our defense is a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 D.Dreger on TSN690 says there has been talk of Couturier for B.Ryan between teams but it may not happen at the trade deadline.I'd rather include him a trade for Fowler...Flyers need blueline help especially with next season being Kimmo's last year and NOONE on the farm even there much less even ready to take his place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) we would have Ryan for two years at 5.1MHe is just the scoring RWer Clod needs....Edit: Clod is a setup guy and Jake is setup guy...they need SOMEONE WHO WILL SHOOT THE GODDAMN PUCK!!!!! Also hit the net! Edited March 28, 2013 by OccamsRazor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 @OccamsRazor Jake may have been a setup guy, but he's turned shooter this year in case you didn't notice. (what with all the carnage going on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 @OccamsRazorJake may have been a setup guy, but he's turned shooter this year in case you didn't notice. (what with all the carnage going on)Yes he has found the net more this season yet he is what he is...he even said it...he prefers to set people up...so sniper on the 1st line wouldn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 @OccamsRazor Sure. But with a shooting % better than names like Crosby, Ovechkin, Staal, parise etc etc, the guy can clearly shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) @OccamsRazorSure. But with a shooting % better than names like Crosby, Ovechkin, Staal, parise etc etc, the guy can clearly shoot.Honestly i'm ok with riding the season out and preparing for next year.With that said let's move everyone we know won't be here next year now...i don't care if it's for no more than a 7th round pick(good scouting may can find a diamond on the rough).Feds, Knuble, Foster and Gervais are all on the block and while we're at it go ahead and move Mezz if you can but with him it might have to wait till before the draft or offseason.I'd hold onto everyone including Coots, Schenn and Read. Unless, i repeat unless they are parts in the blueliner they covet.Also would it be realistic to imagine Laughton and Cousins on the BIG squad(take the place of Feds...Laughton Cousins...Knuble)....or will they start on the Phantoms more likely?Would love for Homer to bring Emery back for a chance to compete for the starters job...then buy out Bryz after next season if they don't this offseason. Edited March 28, 2013 by OccamsRazor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 @OccamsRazor The scary thing is who is the blueliner they covet? Laughton looked ok in his short stint here. But I'd rather he and Cousins both go to the A, at least for a bit. I really don't see any benefit in rushing players up to the NHL. See Couturier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'd keep Couturier unless they can package to acquire a top D/G under 30 and under contract. He might be struggling, or in a standard sophomore slump, but he's still a very very good prospect. He has time to improve, and actually physically grow still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 @doom88 I agree, if they do deal Coots, it's gotta make sense for the future....it's gotta be a carefully thought out move that helps a glaring need. Like you said, he is still an important piece. I'd prefer it to be a roster player also, cause we at least know that Coots can play in some capacity in this league, a prospect and you are entering cloudy waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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