murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) I think everyone knows my opinion of Bryz and I hope we get this guy out of Philly as soon as possible. As it relates to his latest remarks surrounding Stalin and Philly - is this guy actually trying to get the Flyers to buy him out? As a teammate I have a hard time with this type of guy and it would have to get on your nerves b/c you literally never know what is going to come out of this idiots mouth. Think about it... he "hates" the media and seems to think Philadelphians are bunch of freeloaders. Is he going to continue to push the envelope to basically get himself out of Philly while collecting a nice check from the Flyers for the next decade? I have a hard time thinking this guy is so stupid that he would trash the fans of the city that he plays for...Is Bryz really trying to get the heck out of here? How can management sit by and allow this to continue to happen? The distractions are never going to stop with this clown.. Edited May 16, 2013 by murraycraven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Who was the last guy that hated the media and was dealt out of town?Maybe Bryz figures that's how you win a Cup...I'm in favor of removing the distraction to see if the problem actually gets solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Who was the last guy that hated the media and was dealt out of town?Maybe Bryz figures that's how you win a Cup...I'm in favor of removing the distraction to see if the problem actually gets solved.-- well, that is definitely a very interesting way to look at it! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlfly Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Of course he wants out. Flyers will not make a playoff next two-three years, being with Pitts, Caps, Rags, NJ, Isles. He wants to win all the time and it's fine, our D is crap with even Timmo (old man), offense is marginal, 1 1/2 lines max so far. I don't see Flyers have a good group to win 65% game in the season. Believe me they screwed. Also the the cap is going down it will hurt even more with bunch players to sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 He wants to win all the timeHonestly, I am not so sure about this... I think he could care less about winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Honestly, I am not so sure about this... I think he could care less about winning... "come on, its a only the hockey game..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughfighter83 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Honestly, I am not so sure about this... I think he could care less about winning...if he didnt care, why would he even bother playing or him showing emotions like slamming sticking or throwing waterbottles? if he's a quitter like most fans want him to be, why does he even bother playing all those games? with him playing all those games, pretty much shows he wants to win, problem is the team full of vets dont want to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertaflyer Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 if he didnt care, why would he even bother playing or him showing emotions like slamming sticking or throwing waterbottles? if he's a quitter like most fans want him to be, why does he even bother playing all those games? with him playing all those games, pretty much shows he wants to win, problem is the team full of vets dont want to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughfighter83 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 yeah, well if bryz get's bought out and mason strugglies, it's going to be the blame game on him, it doesnt matter who comes here, it's always the goalies fault, it's never the team's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 @toughfighter83 Did you happen to notice Bryz let in 4 goals in half a game for Russia? WTF are you seeing in this guy that NOBODY else does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Of course he wants out. Flyers will not make a playoff next two-three years, being with Pitts, Caps, Rags, NJ, Isles. He wants to win all the time and it's fine, our D is crap with even Timmo (old man), offense is marginal, 1 1/2 lines max so far. I don't see Flyers have a good group to win 65% game in the season. Believe me they screwed. Also the the cap is going down it will hurt even more with bunch players to sign. If he wants to win all the time, why doesn't he start making basic saves? If he wants out, why did he sign for 9 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 All about favorism with when talking about Bryz there TF83... all about favorism to the point you are either the real Bryz, his agent or the reincarnate of Stalin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I agree that there is an overwhelming tendency to "blame the goalie" in Philadelphia. It's either the goalie or the coach.A lot of people who are blistering Bryz with his stats still believe that it was vitally important to get rid of a goalie who was essentially 2.00/.920 with the team after the offense blew chunks in consecutive postseasons.The Sean Burke quote about the second happiest day of his life being the day he was dealt to Philadelphia and the happiest was when he was dealt away is a perfect example.That has nothing to do with the fact that Bryzgalov simply must be bought out - and I'm quickly coming over to the "sooner than later" crowd even though I remain convinced it will be after next season.That said, the organization* is increasingly a red hot mess and it'll take far more than a change between the pipes to fix that.* term used loosely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toughfighter83 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) All about favorism with when talking about Bryz there TF83... all about favorism to the point you are either the real Bryz, his agent or the reincarnate of Stalin.it's not just bryz, it's every goalie that comes here, you are never satisfied about the goaltending, you want to play this blame the goalie game every year and expect a different result, it never changes, it's tiring of the blame goalie, it's time to blame the whole team and take responsibility, i dont give a crap about his personal issues, he's not serial killer, you want something to hate him for, that's your problem, if you want to hate bryz and he's still here, what are you going to do about it? fans and media have so much disrespect for the goalies because you want them to be the perfect goalies, that will never happen.it's not going to fix this team anytime soon. Edited May 16, 2013 by toughfighter83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 if he didnt care, why would he even bother playing or him showing emotions like slamming sticking or throwing waterbottles or ducking?Don't forget ducking...twice. That's always my favorite. Obviously he cares. Goalies don't duck shots if they don't care. Clearly this guy is all about winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Again.... i am not sure how many times it will be written before you comprehend the fact we are all saying it ia not juat Bryz fault. The defense is terrible... period. You are paying him elite money so he should be able to steal games and he simply does not. Will it be any better with another goalie and a bad defense - no. But, he has a huge salary cap hit and he is mediocre at best. Why pay him the elite salary when you can build a better defense using the amnesty for Bryz and Briere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 yeah, well if bryz get's bought out and mason strugglies, it's going to be the blame game on him,That part is actually dead on accurate. Actually, it might not take full on "struggling." I get your frustration about the goalie carousel. I also get that the media/fans are as much to blame as anyone when it comes to goalies--and starting quarterbacks, for that matter. But this goalie just flat out blows, especially for what he makes.It wouldn't be the first time a player got ran out of town for saying something completely idiotic that wasn't even related to his sport (see: Rocker, John). I'm personally not a fan of the PC police thing when it comes to athletes. I'm not paying to see them be intellectual giants. I just want them to score, play hard, etc. So the asinine stuff about Stalin is just kind of a sideshow for me. It indicates he's stupid as all get out, but I wouldn't care if he could stop the puck. He can't. His mechanics and everything about him are just bad. One can argue "average" and that's fine, but at the amount he's making, "average" just simply doesn't cut it when there has to be more important priorities for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 i am not sure how many times it will be written before you comprehend...Need a Snickers?It's going to be awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Well said rux.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I dont even know why i try.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I dont even know why i try....Probably similar to the reason we keep feeding Ethiopia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Haha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Bryz is going to burn out the goal lamp in Worlds.Many of us have liked prior goalies, Bobrovsky being the polarizing recent example. Emery had supporters too. Boosh was also a polarizing guy on the forum, but supported for his efforts. All of those guys tried their asses off, and got the best they could as often as they could - and respected for their efforts accordingly.Bryz was supposed to be the answer, and is paid to be an elite goalie. He's not playing like one with any consistency whatsoever. It's not a goalie blaming situation, it's actually fact this time.Michael *****g Leighton (I think that started with this group too actually, if not myself), wasn't paid to be elite, and wasn't held to that standard. He was a scumbag liar who stole a contract from the team. Leaky was a terrible teammate who blamed the D for his own shortcomings. Bryz doesn't go that far, granted, but he is a also divisive force against the team. He is one of the problems, in more way than one.I think people have reasonable expectations, and Mason will have a grace period. He's not supposed to be the next one, but more of a trial a la the aforementioned Emery. If the reclamation project works, great! If not, okay, back to the perpetual hunt for the next great goalie.Aside: Is Quick the next great goalie? Roy, Hasek, Brodeur tier - I actually mean great here. Edited May 17, 2013 by doom88 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Is Quick the next great goalie?Without a doubt......he is the only guy i would take over Lunqqvist.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 @doom88Aside: Is Quick the next great goalie? Roy, Hasek, Brodeur tier - I actually mean great hereOnly time will tell if he can be consistent year on year, as that is what separates the brodeurs from the khabibulins, but....I've never seen a goalie with edge control like quick, amazingly light on his skates. Brodeur, di pietro are close, but quick is just other worldly. Elite goaltending is more than the sum of parts, but...quick has the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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