Any interest in Iginla?

[brelic]

He says he's interested in staying with the Pens, but players always say that, and it doesn't really mean anything until that signature is on that contract.

If he decides to test the UFA market, any interest in acquiring him? He would look great with Giroux and Voracek. That would also allow us to bump Hartnell to the 3rd line where he's more suited (unless he finds his game back).

NOt sure if he'd ever entertain signing with Philly, but what do you think it would take?

$5M per year? MOre? Less? Either way, I wouldn't sign him for more than 2 years.

[DaGreatGazoo]

No. At any price---no. Unless it's 500K/season.

Not a Iginla hater, but he would be an over 35 contract, and quite frankly, I hate those deals, the way the NHL handles them.

[albertaflyer]

NO! Iginla's best days are long gone. He was really exposed in the Boston series. He was a step behind the play as the playoffs went on. Iginla will be heading back to the Western conference. We need to stay away from these type of players. Simmons>Iginla. By a long shot.

[Mad Dog]

Nope. Again, this is not the priority for the Flyers. Defense is... and goaltending. In a capped world, you have to address the priorties first.

[mojo1917]

I don't think the Pens offer him a whole lot of $ not with Beau Bennett really looking ready for a larger role .

what everyone else says here, he's an all-time great, but past his time, the contract would be 35 + and probably too rich vs the cap for what he's likely to produce.

[brelic]

Nope. Again, this is not the priority for the Flyers. Defense is... and goaltending. In a capped world, you have to address the priorties first.

Yup, I agree that defense and goaltending are priorities.

But assuming we buy out Briere and Bryz, and address goaltending with, say, Read, and defense with, say, Coots, then we have holes up front. Specifically, a top 6 winger.

Iginla is still a top 6 winger. If it's not him, it will be some other vet.

I agree that he will probably head back west, but I don't think a 2 year deal to a 35 year old is very dangerous. Not like, say, a 7 year deal to a 36 year old defenseman.

I'd rather have Iginla over Clowe. Horton would be a great pick up, but why on earth would he leave Boston??? Unless they can't afford him... not sure what his situation is.

The others in the list:

Jagr

Selanne

Alfredsson

Morrow

Ryder

Gagne

MacArthur

Penner

Clarkson

After that, it gets pretty weak.

[murraycraven]

Gotta say pass on this one too... I have always loved Iginla's game and always thought he would have been a perfect Flyer. I think it is time to start shying away from the overpriced verterans that are > than the age of 35. As much as I love Kimmo I still am confused about his 6M contract and think one of those contracts is enough at this point. At least that contract is only one year and I would suspect Iggy is looking for at least a 3 year deal...

Pass...

[Mad Dog]

@brelic

I really don't want to give up either Couturier or Read. If either Danny Boy or Bryz gets bought out, I would see first which d-man is available as a free agent. I don't have a list in front of me, but I gotta think there would have to be a suitable veteran d-man out on a free market. I really don't want to dismantle the team, but I do realize the Flyers might have no choice if they are serious about addressing the defense. I know if the Flyers set their eyes on someone like Yandle or Shattenkirk, the asking price woudl be higher than they are willing to pay, which is why I am saying I would first try to expplore the free agency.

So back to the question in this thread... Assuming they can get a good d-man via free agency, they don't need to do anything with forwards. I will say Dustin Penner does sound intriguing though. I would be curious to see how much he wants. My preference would be Penner over Iginla, but that's subjective.

Edited June 10, 2013 by Mad Dog

[Bertmega]

@murraycraven

Agreed on the pass.

In regards to the Timmonen signing, the only way I can wrap my head around it is to think that Homer didn't want to put himself in a bidding war against his own player. I am not sure Timmonen would have gotten anywhere near or more than 6mm from another team though.

Maybe like a Jagr hindsight thing I suppose.

[Bertmega]

I'd almost be inclined to sign Gagne before Penner. Gagne is probably cheaper and at least can back check every now and again.

[mojo1917]

In regards to the Timmonen signing, the only way I can wrap my head around it is to think that Homer didn't want to put himself in a bidding war against his own player. I am not sure Timmonen would have gotten anywhere near or more than 6mm from another team though.

Could just be doing things the Flyer way, Timmonen has been wonderful for this franchise and Ed says to Homer, he says " Paul, the Kimo fella from Viking land, he's been good to us Paul, I want you to make him a nice deal to say thanks for his service to us; money is no object, if i were to have a son who was a viking i'd want it to be him, so here's the check book I'd say what 8 million ?, he's been great to us Paul..."

in my mind Ed is a little senile and sort of gangster. it's fun.

[Bertmega]

in my mind Ed is a little senile and sort of gangster. it's fun.

That sums him up perfectly. Wonder if I can convince him that I am his long lost nephew???

[brelic]

I know if the Flyers set their eyes on someone like Yandle or Shattenkirk, the asking price woudl be higher than they are willing to pay, which is why I am saying I would first try to expplore the free agency

In either of those cases, Coots or B Schenn goes the other way. We're not going to get a top pairing d-man for scraps, so we will lose one of our young guys.

The only alternative is to wait and build through the draft. I'm ok with that, but I doubt the GM is. Do you think his job would survive another playoff miss? I'm not sure it would.

In FA, there's a big pile of dung available.

Streit (no thanks).

Hainsey (no thanks)

Zidlicky

Hamrlilk

Scuderi

Leopold

Lydman

White

Poti

Murray

Babchuk

Aucoin

Ferrence

Corvo

And then we get into Andrew Alberts and Matt Walker territory.

Really, there's nothing appealing, and all those options are pretty much short-term band-aids.

Which is fine if, as a franchise, they're building through the draft. The short-terms vets can bridge the gap between now and when some of our younger guys are ready (hopefully including our draft pick).

But, again, I doubt that's the Flyers game plan. It has never been, so it would be a complete change of strategy.

[murraycraven]

In either of those cases, Coots or B Schenn goes the other way. We're not going to get a top pairing d-man for scraps, so we will lose one of our young guys.

The only alternative is to wait and build through the draft. I'm ok with that, but I doubt the GM is. Do you think his job would survive another playoff miss? I'm not sure it would.

In FA, there's a big pile of dung available.

Streit (no thanks).

Hainsey (no thanks)

Zidlicky

Hamrlilk

Scuderi

Leopold

Lydman

White

Poti

Murray

Babchuk

Aucoin

Ferrence

Corvo

And then we get into Andrew Alberts and Matt Walker territory.

Really, there's nothing appealing, and all those options are pretty much short-term band-aids.

Which is fine if, as a franchise, they're building through the draft. The short-terms vets can bridge the gap between now and when some of our younger guys are ready (hopefully including our draft pick).

But, again, I doubt that's the Flyers game plan. It has never been, so it would be a complete change of strategy.

We can always bring Foster back

Edited June 10, 2013 by murraycraven

[OccamsRazor]

He says he's interested in staying with the Pens, but players always say that, and it doesn't really mean anything until that signature is on that contract.

I've always like Iggy and thought he would look good in a Flyer uni, however after watching this past playoffs with Pitt, he really doesn't have it anymore so i will pass. Also he plays the RW spot the same wing Jake does so someone would have to move down. I'm staying with youth...the only old guy i could see working off the top of my head would Riberio yet he is on the smaller side too.

[Hexy27]

I'd almost be inclined to sign Gagne before Penner. Gagne is probably cheaper and at least can back check every now and again.

Any news on Gagne? Last I heard he was willing to take a pay cut to stay in town. I'd like to see him back next season maybe a 1 or 2 years deal at $2M.

[Bertmega]

@Hexy27

I haven't heard anything, but the speculation was right around 2-2.5MM per year.

He may be a good fit on a line Talbot and Couturier. I believe that was tried earlier this year, but I try and forget most of the 2012-13 season lol.

[Bear04]

Iggie should stay put...horton should too...jagr now costs us a number 1 pick(upgraded to a one if B's made the conference finals)...I know he's been all that and a bag of chips for the B's, but a number one seems high...

[OccamsRazor]

but a number one seems high...

Yeah but the Bs are a deep squad and organization too...about to try for another Cup....trust me it's worth it and it won't cripple them and hell they really want feel it.

[doom88]

I'd like Iggy at the right price and length. Or Horton. Resign Gagne. That makes a sweet third line of Gagne, Couturier, and Iginla/Horton.

If Read is traded for Bernier, maybe try to sign both Iginla and Horton, letting them fight for a spot on the second line.

[jammer2]

I'm thinking the length of any Iggy deal would make me shy away. By all accounts, this will be his last chance to cash in....so he will be trying for 5+ years at 5 mill per, why would he not? Someone will take the risk, but hopefully not the Flyers.

[murraycraven]

I'd like Iggy at the right price and length. Or Horton. Resign Gagne. That makes a sweet third line of Gagne, Couturier, and Iginla/Horton.

If Read is traded for Bernier, maybe try to sign both Iginla and Horton, letting them fight for a spot on the second line.

Doom, while I like the thought I am not sure we have the available capspace for either player let alone both - unless we buy out Brzy (fingers crossed). I think Iggy is going to look for a long term deal and he is going to get paid by someone. Horton is going to get overpaid as well but I think we can say that about every FA that hits the market anymore

However it is done I think we need to start building from the defensive side of the blue line.

[Polaris922]

Rumor has it (unconfirmed of course) that Iginla has said he's take a reasonable pay cut to play another year with the Pens. I can't confirm this, as it was a radio host comment yesterday or today, not sure which. So for all its worth... My point is he may not be hunting top dollar so much as hunting a Cup instead.

[LeafSuck16]

@murraycraven, I agree with you 100%, they should build from defense out. Sort of the old school Devils model. Only problem they have is the available D-men. Not any really topnotch D-men out there like last year. If they do get one, one of the youngsters are leaving. Not sure they should do that.

[murraycraven]

@LeafsSuck

You brought up the foil of the plan - available dmen. Unfortunately, I would stay away from this FA crop of dmen and to acquire one under contract means giving up Cooter, Schenn, or Read which I am hesitant to do. Homer has a tough summer ahead and is going to have to get creative which scares the living hell out of me. Last time he was creative we ended up w/ no Plan B and signed Gervais & Foster.

My hope is they land Nurse, Risto, or Pulock (Nurse or Risto is my pick) in the draft for the future. Until then is is going to be a dicey offseason as Flyer's fans. Who knows what this management crew is up to...