Who were the goalies on 2008 Canada WJC?

[AMMOnation]

Steve Mason & Johnathon Bernier.

Steve Mason took tournament MVP, Canada took gold.

Also on that team, Giroux, Simmonds & Luke Schenn.

(Of note, Bobrovsky started for Russia).

Mason was more touted than Bernier, came up on terrible Blue Jacket teams. Bernier highly touted as well, came up on stacked Kings teams.

We got Mason for a shooter-tutor, Maple Leafs got Bernier for good prospects.

My final comments. People flame the Flyers for trading away players before they development. That is the market we live in, we are win now 24/7 because we spend money on training, free agents, scouting, ect.

But, the Flyers took a dose of their own medicine this time and swiped Mason, once a top prospect, in time for his prime.

[Vincent05]

"But, the Flyers took a dose of their own medicine this time and swiped Mason, once a top prospect, in time for his prime."

I don't think they swipe Mason. They couldn't wait to trade him after getting a Vezina winning goalie from us. Bob is their starter going forward so that made Mason expandable, I remember reading that Homer had been trying to trade for Mason the past few years and Columbus wasn't interested in moving him til they got a true no.1 goalie.

[doom88]

Time will tell, I suggest patience. I don't think the clock is out on Mason at all.

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@AMMOnation

I guess time will tell whether your post is ultimately true or just hopeful thinking.

But in the meantime it makes me feel better so I'm just going to go with it.

[OccamsRazor]

They couldn't wait to trade him after getting a Vezina winning goalie from us.

Look it's sad they traded him i ain't happy about it and since i've been a Flyer fan he is the best prospect the Flyers have ever had.

Now with that said there is no need to get all excited about Bob winning the vezina after only playing 37 figgin games....Jim Carey had one spectacular year too one time.

Let's see Bob do that for a full season first till then get down off the ledge... :blink:

[OccamsRazor]

"But, the Flyers took a dose of their own medicine this time and swiped Mason, once a top prospect, in time for his prime."

I don't think they swipe Mason. They couldn't wait to trade him after getting a Vezina winning goalie from us. Bob is their starter going forward so that made Mason expandable, I remember reading that Homer had been trying to trade for Mason the past few years and Columbus wasn't interested in moving him til they got a true no.1 goalie.

I presented this question the other day on a thread to Jammer and noticed Bernier only played in 2 games Mason the rest...Mason won the Calder the first year Bernier was in the A...

[jammer2]

@OccamsRazor Bob is way more talented than Jim Carey ever was...guess you could throw Andrew Raycroft into the pile also. Thing that gets me....so many of us clearly saw the pure raw athleticism that Bob possessed. Homer should be fired for that move alone. The Kings held on to Bernier for 8 full years, allowing them to have a better than average back up...AND allowed them to get the best deal possible. If Homer waits one more year, and his talents stick even out more, they would not have even dealt him....this will haunt me forever....and I'll neve forgive Homer for his brutal lack of patience in this case.

Edited June 24, 2013 by jammer2

[OccamsRazor]

Bob is way more talented than Jim Carey ever was

Yes without a doubt my point being is anyone can put it together for one year...which to me is meaningless unless with that one year it brings the Cup...then it's all for not...

...just would like people to calm down about Bob let him win the vezina over a 82 game schedule before we anoint him the next one though.

. The Kings held on to Bernier for 8 full years, allowing them to have a better than average back up

Well they had goaltenders already in Quick Labarbra (sp)and Ersberg to fill in giving them the chance...Homer can't find a goaltender if he had the #1 over all in the draft!

Thing that gets me....so many of us clearly saw the pure raw athleticism that Bob possessed.

I haven't been a fan as long as some here but as long as i've followed the Flyers he is the best i've ever seen them have.

Edited June 24, 2013 by OccamsRazor

[jammer2]

@OccamsRazor Yep, Bob was the best pure athletic goalie we have had since Pelle, so if you don't go back that far, he was the best....

[OccamsRazor]

@OccamsRazor Yep, Bob was the best pure athletic goalie we have had since Pelle, so if you don't go back that far, he was the best....

Many might not agree with me but mine are as follows:

#1-Bob- outstanding reflexes a lot to build on...and no one wanted him.

#2-Cechmaniac!-i know but people don't like him but he put up outstanding numbers and had little to no scoring help.

#3-Nitty- to bad his hips wouldn't hold up.

#4-Boosch-just because he played solid in a limited role...without him they don't even get into the playoffs the Cup year!

#5-Bryz-mostly from his resume before Philly...waiting still for him in Philly to live up to hype!

Edited June 24, 2013 by OccamsRazor

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@OccamsRazor

What? No Jeff Hackett? C'mon, it takes a real athlete to stay in net when he sees multiple pucks coming at him.

[OccamsRazor]

No Jeff Hackett?

Well he was 6' 1"...so i'll give him honorable mention...make him #6..

...but what about our last Cup tender(MFL) where oh where do i put him??????

[ruxpin]

but what about our last Cup tender(MFL) where oh where do i put him??????

In the garbage where he belongs.

[OccamsRazor]

In the garbage where he belongs.

Rumore.......Flyers to fire Jeff Reece and replace him with MLF...more news at 11.

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Rumore.......Flyers to fire Jeff Reece and replace him with MLF...more news at 11.

"And this, young podling, is what you do on a shot from the corner behind the goal line..."

[King Knut]

Like many European goalies, bob is at his best when playing for a bad team. He actually hurts a good team.

We need a goalie who can help a good team if we're going to succeed.

Still utterly moronic to have needed to lose him because of idiotic decisions by homer and lavvy, but whatever, vexing or not... I don't know that I think bob's a vezina winner I he's on a better team.

"But, the Flyers took a dose of their own medicine this time and swiped Mason, once a top prospect, in time for his prime."

I don't think they swipe Mason. They couldn't wait to trade him after getting a Vezina winning goalie from us. Bob is their starter going forward so that made Mason expandable, I remember reading that Homer had been trying to trade for Mason the past few years and Columbus wasn't interested in moving him til they got a true no.1 goalie.

[Vincent05]

Like many European goalies, bob is at his best when playing for a bad team. He actually hurts a good team.

We need a goalie who can help a good team if we're going to succeed.

Still utterly moronic to have needed to lose him because of idiotic decisions by homer and lavvy, but whatever, vexing or not... I don't know that I think bob's a vezina winner I he's on a better team.

Huh? You say Bob plays at his best on a bad team and then stats he's on a better team. I have no idea what you trying to say. By my interpretation he should've been a All Star goalie on our team then.

[King Knut]

I said he's better on a bad team and could end up hurting a good team. Like a quarterback who can throw like hell and run like hell but can't read a defense to save his life... He'll only get you so far.

Bob's style tends to not work well with a solid D (which means he might have been just what we needed this past year). Indeed as a flyer he may have been an all star and won the trophy, I just don't think he would have helped the team win much more. Certainly not in the playoffs.

I'm also not being completely fair because I don't get to see him every night anymore and I suppose it's possible that he completely changed his style in a year at Columbus.

My rhetorical point ultimately was that we have no idea if we'd actually prefer bob. We think we do, but I have a suspicion that he simply fell into a situation that allows him to shine as he is wihout working on the team oriented problems with his game and that he will ultimately not help the team to excel at an elite cup competitive level. There's more to being a successful goalie than stopping pucks. Ask Roman Cechmanek, he was the Vezina runner up his first year... How well did that work out?

Huh? You say Bob plays at his best on a bad team and then stats he's on a better team. I have no idea what you trying to say. By my interpretation he should've been a All Star goalie on our team then.

[flyercanuck]

@King Knut

Watching Bob I saw a guy with incredible reflexes and an incredibly positive attitude. How could you not like playing in front of him.

Watching Bryz I wondered "How did this guy last this long in the NHL?"

[Vincent05]

@King Knut

We saw flashes of Bob when he was here, he just needed time to work out hus flaws and to gain experience. I hated the trade last year and now it bites us in the ass as we have no goalie yet again.

[jammer2]

@King Knut I think Bob is the exact same goalie skill wise as he was in Philly. 2 things helped him out.

1) experience

2) The Blue Jackets play this blanketing style that is goalie friendly. Constant pressure from back checking forwards who play with a sense of desperation and urgency.

[ruxpin]

Constant pressure from back checking forwards who play with a sense of desperation and urgency ...and not a lick of offense.

Fixed it.