FlyersFan4Life Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2014/6/10/5797400/mike-richards-buyout-kings-flyers-nhl-free-agency-2014 http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/could-the-kings-really-buy-out-mike-richards-this-summer/ http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/28/mike-richards-buyout-candidate/ I have been reading this on several websites. Seems like LA fans realy don't care for him that much. Carter has seemed to thrive in LA but Richy really has dropped off in LA. Philly won that trade hands down. Would we want him if LA buys him out I am on the fence with this one. If philly can get rid of Vinny and have Richy center Scott and Akeson would not be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 @FlyersFan4Life Problem is, if LA buys him out, there could be a little battle to sign him. If enough teams are interested, he could drive his asking price up to 4 mill a year, and considering his injury problems, I'd be a little hesitant to commit that much cap space to a guy who really can't be counted on. Like most of us predicted, Mike's frame is to small to play the gritty game he has to employ if he's to be effective. Sadly, I think the injuries will be a regular thing with Mike...so gotta pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 No.This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersFan4Life Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 @FlyersFan4Life Problem is, if LA buys him out, there could be a little battle to sign him. If enough teams are interested, he could drive his asking price up to 4 mill a year, and considering his injury problems, I'd be a little hesitant to commit that much cap space to a guy who really can't be counted on. Like most of predicted, Mike's frame is to small to play the gritty game he has to employ if he's to be effective. Sadly, I think the injuries will be a regular thing with Mike...so gotta pass.I do agree to a point unless he came cheap which prolly wont happen, I just want to see a winger for roo and a solid d man if they can get one Matt Niskanen maybe which would be a stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 I do agree to a point unless he came cheap which prolly wont happen, I just want to see a winger for roo and a solid d man if they can get one Matt Niskanen maybe which would be a stretch Where do you play Richards?There is simply no place he fits on the Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersFan4Life Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 Where do you play Richards?There is simply no place he fits on the Flyers.If philly can get rid of Vinny and have Richy center Hartnell and Akeson would not be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishjim Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 sorry we have to many centers as it is..I like richards but we simply do not need him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Monet Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Lets see what Laughton is capable of before signing another aging center please. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Nothing against Mike Richards, but I really hope that Flyers stop signing UFAs and focus on building from what they have. Mike Richards had his time in Philadelphia and there were good moments, but it is time to move forward, not backward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sign Richards and then you trade Coots for a young stud D-man .... If not I'd say "Oh Hell No !!!!!!!!!!"bottom line is I say No !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlyer1 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2014/6/10/5797400/mike-richards-buyout-kings-flyers-nhl-free-agency-2014 http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/could-the-kings-really-buy-out-mike-richards-this-summer/ http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/28/mike-richards-buyout-candidate/ I have been reading this on several websites. Seems like LA fans realy don't care for him that much. Carter has seemed to thrive in LA but Richy really has dropped off in LA. Philly won that trade hands down. Would we want him if LA buys him out I am on the fence with this one. If philly can get rid of Vinny and have Richy center Scott and Akeson would not be bad. Maybe we won that trade but letting Williams go was bad when he went to Carolina and it is still bad. Anybody remember what we got for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyersFan4Life Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) Maybe we won that trade but letting Williams go was bad when he went to Carolina and it is still bad. Anybody remember what we got for himDanny Markov Edited June 15, 2014 by FlyersFan4Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Philly won that trade hands down. Philly got the better players. LA got two Cups. We report, you decide - which would you prefer? Because 27 out of 10 LA fans "lose" that trade eight days a week and six times on Sunday. If philly can get rid of Vinny and have Richy center Hartnell and Akeson would not be bad. So you're assuming a $9M fourth line? That's just simply never going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) and considering his injury problems, I'd be a little hesitant to commit that much cap space to a guy who really can't be counted on. Like most of predicted, Mike's frame is to small to play the gritty game he has to employ if he's to be effective. Sadly, I think the injuries will be a regular thing with Mike...so gotta pass. has he had ongoing injury problems? unless i'm reading it wrong, it looks like he has missed....8 games, total, since going to LA? and all of those were three years ago. unless i'm missing something re: injury problems, and unless the price starts getting too far north of $4mil, personally i'd like to see richards back. edit: seriously, looking at it, he's missed all of 12 games in the last 6 seasons. averaging 2 injured games per season? that's kind of amazing. Edited June 15, 2014 by aziz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 @aziz He had repairs to both shoulders after the Flyers 2010 run, and has played hurt in LA with shoulder injuries the past few years. Even though he has not missed a ton of games, the injuries have been there. I think the injuries played a big part of him being demoted to the 4th line. A healthy Richards should have been able to beat out Jarret Stoll for 2nd or 3rd line duties. His role decreased each year in LA...not exactly the kind of ringing endorsement you'd want to hear when contemplating signing a guy moving into the twilight of his career. Plus, you effectively block the way for Laughton. You don't win the cap game by continually investing in older guys and ignoring the up and coming talent. That's not even mentioning the fact that Richards presence would impeded the growth of Cooter, who would be looking to play the same role as a present day Richards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Plus, you effectively block the way for Laughton That implies that there is a clear "way" to be blocked for Laughton. Giroux, Schenn and Couturier are all ahead of Laughton on the depth chart and at least two of the three - I'm looking at Giroux and Couturier - will continue to be. Under that scenario - assuming Schenn isn't the 2nd line center he has been seen as virtually forever - and if Couturier then has the offensive upside many envision, there isn't a 1/2 slot for Laughton for the forseeable future. Given that Laughton's "upside" seems to be on the offensive side, I simply don't see "the way" for Laughton on the Flyers at the center position regardless of whether Richards is re-signed (he almost definitely won't be) or not. Laughton has to even begin to show he can play in this league before anyone should be "worried" about whether or not his "way" is "blocked." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Where do you play Richards?There is simply no place he fits on the Flyers. After Vinny is traded there will be an opening on the Fourth line... Richards is an experienced 4th liner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 After Vinny is traded there will be an opening on the Fourth line... Richards is an experienced 4th liner. Toodat. But Homer's gone so hopefully the Flyers don't replace a $4.5M problem with a $4M one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Laughton has to even begin to show he can play in this league before anyone should be "worried" about whether or not his "way" is "blocked." Well, I don't think things are quite that simple. If you have no forethought, no vision of the future, you'd have every roster spot tied up till the year 2017...but that is never the case. At some time, you have to trust the scouts, he was a 1st round selection because they believed he would be an everyday player, and he has done nothing to impede that line of thinking. The way I'm thinking....Laughton showed he belonged in his short 8 game audition with the Flyers. The only question is, how much impact will he have offensively, he's a proven commodity in his play without the puck and has a great defensive game in his back pocket to fall back on. I guar-en-damn-tee Laughton will be an NHL player, the only thing to be decided is his slotting. He could be anything from an energy 4th liner to 80 pt 2nd line center.....I'd lean towards the latter, with somewhere inbetween being his true value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlyer1 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Danny MarkovIf I recall we did not resign him so it was a waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If I recall we did not resign him so it was a waste. I heard it was because Philly did not carry his brand of cigarettes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 At some time, you have to trust the scouts, he was a 1st round selection because they believed he would be an everyday player, and he has done nothing to impede that line of thinking If we "trust the scouts" then BSchenn is the 2nd line center... The question then is - can Laughton play wing? Gagne came out as a center and made his NHL name as a wing. Either way, Laughton's not pencilled in as a Flyers center for quite a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 @radoran That's a good question, and one I don't have an answer to. I kind of envision him as a natural center, but I thought the exact same thing about Grioux after watching him in the World Jr's.....so my opinion is basically moot on the subject....lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 but I thought the exact same thing about Grioux after watching him in the World Jr's Giroux was a wing in Juniors. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Philly got the better players. LA got two Cups. We report, you decide - which would you prefer? Because 27 out of 10 LA fans "lose" that trade eight days a week and six times on Sunday. So you're assuming a $9M fourth line? That's just simply never going to happen.I guess I'd rather have Quick, Kopitar, Doughty, and Brown. Carter and Richards played big roles in bringing 2 Cups to LA, but using the Cups as the determining factor as to who "won the trade" is kind of pointless. We traded 2 good players and got back 4 good players. Those 2 players helped them get over the hump and the 4 new guys are rebuilding our core. Carter and Richards didn't swoop in and rescue the Kings out of nothing and lead them to a Cup. They played roles and added depth. This year Carter was instrumental in them winning but it's not the same picture Carchidi likes to paint. People make it seem really cut and dry like Carter and Richards won "our Cup" in LA. That's not what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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