Player You Like/Dislike The Most On Each Team You Follow

[JagerMeister]

Player you like/dislike the most on each team you follow and why

 

NJD 

like: Jagr, admire his work ethic, talent and passion for the game, i also find him pretty funny

Dislike: Ghost Ryder, his talent is dissapearing for a consecutive number of games

 

Van

like: Sedins, watching them together is as good as it gets

dislike: Triple D  

 

 

[J0e Th0rnton]

Player you like/dislike the most on each team you follow and why

 

NJD 

like: Jagr, admire his work ethic, talent and passion for the game, i also find him pretty funny

Dislike: Ghost Ryder, his talent is dissapearing for a consecutive number of games

 

Van

like: Sedins, watching them together is as good as it gets

dislike: Triple D  

SJS

Like: Joe Thornton. Obviously. Possession monster who just wins all the faceoffs and tilts the ice into the offensive zone despite mostly starts in the defensive zone

Dislike: Hannan and Irwin. Give Hannan a gift basket, thank you card, and let him ride into the sunset. That or re-enact old Yeller. Irwin just needs to be waived. neither are NHL caliber Dmen anymore. Burish would have made the list, but we finally waived him 23 games into the season.

 

TBL

Like: The TKO line of Kucherov/Johnson/Palat. Just beautiful. They are the true #1 line on that team, even with Stamkos on another line. impressive

Dislike: Matt Carle? Would still take him in a heartbeat over Hannan or Irwin, but not at that pricetag and term with Mueller likely taking that spot next season fulltime.

[ruxpin]

Flyers

Like: TV McGinn. Oh wait, he's gone. I think Sean Couturier.

Dislike: VLC sucks. Umberger. Coburn. Luke Schenn.

[ruxpin]

TBL:

Like--Bishop and Johnson

Dislike--no one in particular. Really a fun team to watch.

[yave1964]

DETROIT:

Like: Kronwall. Obviously.

Dislike: Quincey. Franzen is so hot and cold that I never know what to expect game to game or shift to shift.

 

COLUMBUS

Like: Dubinsky. Met my now 13 year old daughter and signed her jersey, making her a fan. Love the way he plays.

Dislike: Wisniewski, one dimensional with massive holes in his game

[J0e Th0rnton]

Flyers

Like: TV McGinn. Oh wait, he's gone. I think Sean Couturier.

Dislike: VLC sucks Umberger,  Coburn and Luke Schenn.

jeez that boy gets around. That could cause locker room problems

 

[ruxpin]

jeez that boy gets around. That could cause locker room problems

LOL! Punctuation is everything!

[Samifan]

Like: G, Jake, Simmonds and Mason

Tolerate: Coots and Streit

Dislike: Remaining roster of players, coaches, medical staff and the male members of the Ice Crew

[MadDevil]

Like: Henrique. What's not to like about him? Just a solid all around player. Likely future captain for the Devils.

Dislike: Ryder. He's quickly replaced Brunner on my list of soft, lazy, completely useless hockey players. Plus he has the personality of a doorknob.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

Tampa Bay Lightning:

 

(Plus)-- Steven Stamkos...good, unselfish, budding overall team leader, great spokesman for the team, and an all around talent who works hard on every facet of his game and NEVER seems full of himself. Also, the kind of player who seems to bring out the best in any linemates he works with.

    --Ondrej Palat.....Sure, guys like Johnson, Stammer, Hedman, etc, get more ink, but this guy simply does it all on the ice. He skates, makes plays, scores, hits, takes hits, can play a finesse game, but also not afraid to go into the dirty areas of the ice and agitate juuuust a bit on top of all that. Guy is stronger than his size would indicate...he takes some hellacious hits, pops back up and keeps on going.

    --Valteri Filppula....I ONCE thought this signing was just another 'ho hum, take Detroit's unwanted guys' type signing. No longer. After watching VF play since he got here, I am firmly convinced that he HAS to be one of the top five stick handlers, graceful skaters, and overall versatile positional forwards in the league. The guy has some moves out there that makes even GOOD defensemen look silly at times, the guy has a super radar for picking up linemates in the offensive zone, and doesn't make stupid or blind passes too often.....Wings let this guy get away....their loss is the Bolts' gain for sure!

 

(Minus)-- Matt Carle. Guy skates well, can contribute on offense a bit, and doesn't require much time at all on IR...that all said, he also is a 'soft' defenseman (stick checks WAY too much), makes poor decisions many times on zone exit passing, and can many times be seen moving his body out of 'harm's way' when he should be challenging a forward trying to break into the zone.  And us fans get ALL this for the low, low cap hit price of $5.5M per..... 

 

 

Minnesota Wild:

 

(Plus) Charlie Coyle, Zach Parise, Marco Scandella, Nino Niederreiter, Nate Prosser.

         All of those guys give everything they have every game, every period, every shift. You NEVER see any of these guys coast. Parise obviously is the most talented of the bunch (Coyle has yet to show his full potential), but that doesn't stop the guy from working like a demon from a blue collar perspective. The others, have varying degrees of NHL competency but DO use their given tools the best they can. I already said Coyle still has more upside, same can be said of Scandella and Niedderreiter...while Prosser is probably pretty much all is ever going to be (serviceable, physical defenseman who can take the ice at ANY given time, in any given situation), but again, gives everything he has, won't half-ass his play, and won't complain about anything during the course of the season. 

Give me Prosser's heart and work ethic to go along with his standard defensive play over a talented but lazy and/or brain farted d-man ANY day of the week!

 

(Minus)

Kyle Brodziak, Thomas Vanek, Keith Ballard

 

These vets certainly have their upsides, but for the most part, bring very little, other than experience, that you couldn't get from a younger, still developing player.

Brodziak is a purely defensive forward who has a knack for getting OFFENSIVE opportunities......alas, if he could only finish on said opportunities...but no, wide open nets clear paths to the goal, and wide open wingers on odd man rushes are a challenge for him more often than not.

 

Thomas Vanek? Wow. I bought into this guy being that final ingredient to making the Wild offense a consistent one.....I was wrong. For a veteran, he sure gets rattled out there, makes poor decisions on whether to pass or shoot, and NEVER seems to be in the right place on developing offensive play.

Hard to believe this was the same Thomas Vanek who was instrumental in making the Buffalo Sabres offense go well during their good years.

He QUICKLY is becoming Dany Heatley 2.0.....yea, yea, someone said that some months back, I defended Vanek, but now feel silly doing so...

 

Keith Ballard.

Tough, hard hitting defender, not afraid of raising the ire of the other team.....but also a poor stick handler, decision maker when it comes to making clean exit passes, and many times pushes the envelope on physical play at the WORST possible times for his team.

Oh, and those defensive zone turnovers simply HAVE to stop.....but then, he is a grizzled old vet who should know better, and if he doesn't by now........oh well........

Hurry and develop Matt Dumba, and Keith Ballard's spot on the team is ALL YOURS!

[JagerMeister]

Tampa Bay Lightning:

 

(Plus)-- Steven Stamkos...good, unselfish, budding overall team leader, great spokesman for the team, and an all around talent who works hard on every facet of his game and NEVER seems full of himself. Also, the kind of player who seems to bring out the best in any linemates he works with.

    --Ondrej Palat.....Sure, guys like Johnson, Stammer, Hedman, etc, get more ink, but this guy simply does it all on the ice. He skates, makes plays, scores, hits, takes hits, can play a finesse game, but also not afraid to go into the dirty areas of the ice and agitate juuuust a bit on top of all that. Guy is stronger than his size would indicate...he takes some hellacious hits, pops back up and keeps on going.

    --Valteri Filppula....I ONCE thought this signing was just another 'ho hum, take Detroit's unwanted guys' type signing. No longer. After watching VF play since he got here, I am firmly convinced that he HAS to be one of the top five stick handlers, graceful skaters, and overall versatile positional forwards in the league. The guy has some moves out there that makes even GOOD defensemen look silly at times, the guy has a super radar for picking up linemates in the offensive zone, and doesn't make stupid or blind passes too often.....Wings let this guy get away....their loss is the Bolts' gain for sure!

 

(Minus)-- Matt Carle. Guy skates well, can contribute on offense a bit, and doesn't require much time at all on IR...that all said, he also is a 'soft' defenseman (stick checks WAY too much), makes poor decisions many times on zone exit passing, and can many times be seen moving his body out of 'harm's way' when he should be challenging a forward trying to break into the zone.  And us fans get ALL this for the low, low cap hit price of $5.5M per..... 

 

 

Minnesota Wild:

 

(Plus) Charlie Coyle, Zach Parise, Marco Scandella, Nino Niederreiter, Nate Prosser.

         All of those guys give everything they have every game, every period, every shift. You NEVER see any of these guys coast. Parise obviously is the most talented of the bunch (Coyle has yet to show his full potential), but that doesn't stop the guy from working like a demon from a blue collar perspective. The others, have varying degrees of NHL competency but DO use their given tools the best they can. I already said Coyle still has more upside, same can be said of Scandella and Niedderreiter...while Prosser is probably pretty much all is ever going to be (serviceable, physical defenseman who can take the ice at ANY given time, in any given situation), but again, gives everything he has, won't half-ass his play, and won't complain about anything during the course of the season. 

Give me Prosser's heart and work ethic to go along with his standard defensive play over a talented but lazy and/or brain farted d-man ANY day of the week!

 

(Minus)

Kyle Brodziak, Thomas Vanek, Keith Ballard

 

These vets certainly have their upsides, but for the most part, bring very little, other than experience, that you couldn't get from a younger, still developing player.

Brodziak is a purely defensive forward who has a knack for getting OFFENSIVE opportunities......alas, if he could only finish on said opportunities...but no, wide open nets clear paths to the goal, and wide open wingers on odd man rushes are a challenge for him more often than not.

 

Thomas Vanek? Wow. I bought into this guy being that final ingredient to making the Wild offense a consistent one.....I was wrong. For a veteran, he sure gets rattled out there, makes poor decisions on whether to pass or shoot, and NEVER seems to be in the right place on developing offensive play.

Hard to believe this was the same Thomas Vanek who was instrumental in making the Buffalo Sabres offense go well during their good years.

He QUICKLY is becoming Dany Heatley 2.0.....yea, yea, someone said that some months back, I defended Vanek, but now feel silly doing so...

 

Keith Ballard.

Tough, hard hitting defender, not afraid of raising the ire of the other team.....but also a poor stick handler, decision maker when it comes to making clean exit passes, and many times pushes the envelope on physical play at the WORST possible times for his team.

Oh, and those defensive zone turnovers simply HAVE to stop.....but then, he is a grizzled old vet who should know better, and if he doesn't by now........oh well........

Hurry and develop Matt Dumba, and Keith Ballard's spot on the team is ALL YOURS!

nothing compares to heatleys decline...

[ruxpin]

@TropicalFruitGirl26

Say that you want about Matt Carle (and what you said was accurate), but if it makes you feel any better he'd instantly be the best defenseman on the Flyers.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

@TropicalFruitGirl26

Say that you want about Matt Carle (and what you said was accurate), but if it makes you feel any better he'd instantly be the best defenseman on the Flyers.

 

Unfortunately for Flyers fans, this would be very true.

 

In all honesty, even though I give Carle much crap, I KNOW he isn't the worst defenseman out there.

Still though, I believe that for the Lightning, as a team that isn't really built as a solid overall defensive unit, having Carle do some of the things he does, as frequently as he does, hurts the team much too often for my liking.

 

Also, because he is a veteran player, and takes such a 'soft' approach to defense, I worry that may rub off the wrong way on some younger D like Andrej Sustr, Mark Barberio, and maybe some young guys in the pipeline like Koekoek, Witkowski, or even, gasp...DeAngelo.

Young guys like that, see a decently skilled vet like Carle play candy-ass defense (lol...sorry, that is on of my hubby's phrases, but I think it fits here), and think that is ok to do at the NHL level...well, it's just worrisome.

 

At any rate, as for the original Q to this thread, yea, Carle is simply a guy I DON'T like on my team, plain n simple.

Though to YOUR point, @ruxpin , ummm, yea, I think I would rather keep Carle instead of having a Grossman, Streit, or MacDonald.

 

HOWEVER, and I am not a GM obviously, I COULD  be persuaded to trade Carle to you guys for maybe a Luke Schenn, which I know many Flyers fans don't hold in very high regard.

I think Schenn, with perhaps a different group of D-men around him, can still do a bit more than he has shown with Philly, while Carle is all he is ever going to be.

[ruxpin]

HOWEVER, and I am not a GM obviously, I COULD  be persuaded to trade Carle to you guys for maybe a Luke Schenn, which I know many Flyers fans don't hold in very high regard.
I think Schenn, with perhaps a different group of D-men around him, can still do a bit more than he has shown with Philly, while Carle is all he is ever going to be.

 

I would take that trade in a minute, but I have to tell you, I have been wondering if a stronger defensive group would do wonders for Schenn.  I mean, he's played only on two different cess pool defenses.  It's possible he'd do better among better defensemen.

 

So the above swap might be a win/win (except for Carle's cap hit) for both teams.  I don't know if I'm Tampa that I take that risk on Schenn, but yeah, I'd consider it from that side, too.

[MinnyNorthernLights]

Minnesota Wild:

Like: Nino Niederreiter, Jason Zucker
Those guys are young, fast, and have alot of potential to be great later down the road.

Dislike: Matt Cooke, Kyle Brodziak
 "Changing his game" isn't enough to make up for how dirty Cooke use to play, and he still does play dirty sometimes.
 I don't know how much the Wild are paying for Brodziak but he's not worth it in my honest opinion. he's not that great and just seems like a lazy player to me.


St. Louis Blues:

Like: Tarasenko, Oshie
Tarasenko has some good puck control and definitely has potential. Oshie, well he's just a sick player.

Dislike: Ryan Reaves
He is a goon.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

Thread ****BUMP*****

for some of our newer posters......let's hear it...players you like and dislike on teams you follow.

 

Also, for @MinnyNorthernLights

 

Just a commentary on one of your player picks, Kyle Brodziak.

I am 100% in agreement with you about not liking him too much, but you said you found him to be 'lazy'?

 

Probably just different perspectives, but I don't see that at all.

I think he is a pretty good penalty killer (and you can't really be that, IMO, if you are lazy...good Pk'ers are some of the hardest workers on the team), good for sticking up for teammates, and can be a good forechecker when he focuses on it.

 

My thing with him is his playmaking ability (or lack thereof) and taking advantage of scoring opportunities for himself.'

The guy's accuracy in shooting is HORRENDOUS!

You've seen it. Kyle Brodziak, with the breakaway........he shoots....wide of the net...by a Minnesota country mile!

Or he fumbles with receiving a pass when he is in the clear....or gets a rush on the net, only one defender to beat and if he doesn't shoot wide, he waits too damned long to do ANYTHING with the puck.

 

See where I am going here?

Guy has an uncanny ability to get open and create scoring chances....but he is hard pressed to actually DO anything with them, find a better option for a shot on his line, which may affect his linemates confidence to even get him the puck come crunch time in the first place.

And he's about a $3M cap hit...and for that amount, one expects at least a somewhat offensively competent 3rd liner type who does more than just tease you with a 'scoring chance'.

 

Brian Boyle in Tampa Bay serves the same role as Brodziak in Minnesota (at a $2M cap hit) and Boyle does more...much more..than Brodziak....kills penalties, hits, sticks up for teammates, and even makes good on scoring chances if provided for him.

 

Anyways, MinnyNorthern, not saying your wrong...maybe if he worked harder on his offense, maybe he COULD be better at it....lord knows he is being paid what he is based on that one season where he looked like he MIGHT be a good 2nd or 3rd line offensive forward.

At least he didn't pull a David Clarkson...lol.

But as much as I don't care to have him on the team, I just don't put 'lazy' and 'Brodziak' together....man has his flaws, but IMO, that's not one of them.

[MinnyNorthernLights]

@TropicalFruitGirl26
 

I agree he is good on the PK unit, I guess I just view him as a lazy player because of that lack of effort in the offensive zone. Probably makes me just overlook him all together as a player. He is just one of those inconsistent players, which upsets me because I didn't even realize he made that much. 

[MinnyNorthernLights]

I guess I should of said inconsistent rather than lazy, because you are right he's not by any means lazy.

[TropicalFruitGirl26]

I guess I should of said inconsistent rather than lazy, because you are right he's not by any means lazy.

 

Haha...I didn't realize you were still new to the sport.

It's all good.

 

All about perception from different fans is all....what one person views one way, another views differently...same with players ppl like or dislike...which is why this thread is interesting.

 

And since you are still learning the ways of hockey, your opinions of various things can and will change over the course of time.....it certainly evolved that way for me...and I've been watching a long time and STILL don't know everything....for which I am glad.

It's why I like boards like these....I learn new stuff all the time by listening and participating.

 

That all said, Brodziak is a UFA after this season.....ummm, he can sign elsewhere...

[MinnyNorthernLights]

@TropicalFruitGirl26

It is definitely a good place to learn more about the players and teams!