Jam1986 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 How about give a young guy a try! Jeff Blashill they say if Babcock leaves he will be the new coach. Works well with the younger guys so since it is a young mans league now. Just sick of all the retreads. Really don't know much about him but if Holland is hot on him must have upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 @Jam1986 Blashill would be on my short list for sure......and apparently he's NHL ready at this point. He would make a fine addition to the Flyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 How about give a young guy a try! Jeff Blashill they say if Babcock leaves he will be the new coach. Works well with the younger guys so since it is a young mans league now. Just sick of all the retreads. Really don't know much about him but if Holland is hot on him must have upside.You can count him out as he will be Babcock's replacement. The Wings have already refused him being interviewed last year. They have plans for him i think they are ready to let Babcock walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Holland will only move him out of the minors if there is someone in place to take Blashills job. Very intriguing. The Red Wings just get it. Why isn't Snider and Clarkie paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 How about give a young guy a try! Jeff Blashill they say if Babcock leaves he will be the new coach. Works well with the younger guys so since it is a young mans league now. Just sick of all the retreads. Really don't know much about him but if Holland is hot on him must have upside.Blashill is this year's Dallas Eakins. Eakins was the next coming of Scotty Bowman when he was in the AHL. Berube was thought to be that guy when he was hired. When you need a lawyer are you going to hire one fresh out of law school because he got good grades or are you going to find one with experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam1986 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Blashill is this year's Dallas Eakins. Eakins was the next coming of Scotty Bowman when he was in the AHL. Berube was thought to be that guy when he was hired.When you need a lawyer are you going to hire one fresh out of law school because he got good grades or are you going to find one with experience?So who even Babcock with all the talent on his team hasn't one a cup in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Blashill is this year's Dallas Eakins. Eakins was the next coming of Scotty Bowman when he was in the AHL. Berube was thought to be that guy when he was hired. When you need a lawyer are you going to hire one fresh out of law school because he got good grades or are you going to find one with experience?Why did anyone think that about Berube?And who? Who thought that about Berube beyond Snider and Homer?Did anyone here hear Laviolette was fired after three games and berube put in his place and think, "oh yeah.. Well if you've got a Berube to put in that spot..." seriously. Who thought Berube was going to be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Blashill is this year's Dallas Eakins. Eakins was the next coming of Scotty Bowman when he was in the AHL. Berube was thought to be that guy when he was hired.When you need a lawyer are you going to hire one fresh out of law school because he got good grades or are you going to find one with experience? I can get behind that, it does make some sense....only one glaring thing...Eakins was anointed the next one by Toronto management and the TO media...Blashill has been anointed by Holland the upper echelon of Wings management....if I'm gonna put my faith in one of these, it's the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I can get behind that, it does make some sense....only one glaring thing...Eakins was anointed the next one by Toronto management and the TO media...Blashill has been anointed by Holland the upper echelon of Wings management....if I'm gonna put my faith in one of these, it's the latter.And Blashill isn't going anywhere they have plans for him. Holland has already turn down one team wating to interview him last year. And he was quoted as saying such he didn't want to be a farm team for other teams finding talent spending time developing it for it to only be poached by others...so he said no to interview request...and by the rules you can't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 @OccamsRazor Yeah, I've heard that also.....AND he signed a 3 year deal last year, so he's not going anywhere for a few years. However, if the Wings do sign Babcock to a long extension, they should not hold him back IMHO. Although, you can argue that Jeff knew this scenario might happen when he signed a 3 year deal, so hard to feel sorry for him. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11032690/detroit-red-wings-ahl-coach-jeff-blashill-agree-3-year-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 @OccamsRazor Yeah, I've heard that also.....AND he signed a 3 year deal last year, so he's not going anywhere for a few years. However, if the Wings do sign Babcock to a long extension, they should not hold him back IMHO. Although, you can argue that Jeff knew this scenario might happen when he signed a 3 year deal, so hard to feel sorry for him. http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/11032690/detroit-red-wings-ahl-coach-jeff-blashill-agree-3-year-dealOr once he gets Babcock signed then he may let teams talk to him he is their insurance policy till then.Or he can just want him to coach in the AHL...and if he don't like it quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Why did anyone think that about Berube?And who? Who thought that about Berube beyond Snider and Homer?Did anyone here hear Laviolette was fired after three games and berube put in his place and think, "oh yeah.. Well if you've got a Berube to put in that spot..." seriously. Who thought Berube was going to be good?You answered your own question. Snider and Homer thought that. I don't know if any other people thought it but I'm sure there's one or two out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You answered your own question. Snider and Homer thought that. I don't know if any other people thought it but I'm sure there's one or two out there.To me the idea that Chief was a hockey genius felt exactly like the idea that Lenny Dykstra turned out to be a financial genius. In the end, it was exactly like that. Just about as ridiculous as it initially sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Or once he gets Babcock signed then he may let teams talk to him he is their insurance policy till then.Or he can just want him to coach in the AHL...and if he don't like it quit.Usually under the right circumstances like a good opportunity, teams let guys out of contracts like that. Alternatively, Snider could buy him out. It won't count against the cap. Just not sure it's the way to go in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Howdy: Repeating my broken record, the big question here is long- versus short-term. If we go with a relative "unknown" from the AHL there is a redevelopment window of 2-3 years before expectations run to advanced playoff run/Cup. If we go with Babcock/Julien type, the expectations are amped farther and faster. That worries me. Best, Howie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 @Howie58 I would prefer an experienced coach myself....and most Flyer fans know the scoop, Homer screwed Hexy cap wise, so his hands are tied, thus expectations are low. Hexy is preaching patience, so a new coach, veteran or not.... will not be able to alter that philosophy. At least a coach who is a proven winner can get the most out of the roster that is given to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 @Howie58 I would prefer an experienced coach myself....and most Flyer fans know the scoop, Homer screwed Hexy cap wise, so his hands are tied, thus expectations are low. Hexy is preaching patience, so a new coach, veteran or not.... will not be able to alter that philosophy. At least a coach who is a proven winner can get the most out of the roster that is given to him.Jammer: Good to hear from you. Agree regarding what we are heading into this coming year, unless Hexy pulls off some amazing cap clearing deals. Sadly, I don't think next year will be much different from this one. I think an established coach will get more immediate respect from the team. Whoever gets appointed better have a developmental mentality. Babcock gets people "developed" in Grand Rapids. I am not sure Mr. X will have that luxury coming from Lehigh Valley. It should be interesting. Howie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Whoever the new coach is for the Phantoms, it comes at a very important time for the parent Flyers. Our bread and butter prospects, the core group of defensemen we have drafted, should all see some time in the AHL. That makes the role of the Phantoms coach all that more important. The organization as a whole is at a crossroads, and whoever is guiding the future group of Flyers d-men, had better be quality and an intelligent teacher. A new influx of forwards should also be arriving, guys like Leier, Aube-Kubel, Lindblom, Fazleev, Martel, Ghoulbourne, Parks....they represent the next wave of Flyer forwards (as well as established but young AHL'ers like Laughton and Cousins etc). They very badly need structure and discipline. Whoever Hexy tabs as coach of the Phantoms, they are going to have to see eye to eye with the new Flyers coach....having like minded coaches who play the same system should be a top priority for the Flyers, they very badly need to be on the same page from the AHL to NHL, to reduce confusion during the time the kids are being introduced to the pro ranks. This is a crucial time in our prospects development and the AHL coach should reflect the core values that the team will be implementing at the NHL level. There should be seamless cohesion between the AHL and the parent NHL team. That is why Murray should be let go, if he's not already relieved of his duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 @jammer2 I've mentioned a couple times I'd like to see Sheldon Keefe get a shot. He won 5 league championships with his Pembroke Lumber Kings before joining the Greyhounds and turning around that once proud OHL franchise. I'm betting he's grabbed by someone this year, or next at the latest, to coach their AHL squad. Aube-Kubel and Fazleev have one more year of junior before being AHL eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam1986 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Been saying this for year same page at the AHL and NHL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 @flyercanuck Yeah, Keefe should definitely be considered, seems like a great teacher, and his team looks organized on the line changes etc, which is a direct refection on the coach. Even though Aube-Dubel and Fazleev are not elegible for a year, I included them cause the new coach should be teaching them, unless he's a total failure and is fired after one year....which should not happen, but it is the Flyers we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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