EightyEight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-philadelphia-flyers-1.280357 Interesting read from Scott Cullen of TSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-philadelphia-flyers-1.280357 Interesting read from Scott Cullen of TSN."If they shed some salary, with a trade of a defenceman and a buyout of Lecavalier, then Philadelphia could be in the bidding for quality free agents like Justin Williams and Jarret Stoll, who played for the Flyers’ West Coast branch in L.A.," interesting read you say? more like uninformed lol. Unless he meant quality 4th liner up on coke charges Edit: or is the plan to get Umberger, Mcdud and VLC to overdose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Wait a sec, there's a "game plan"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I agree with Cullen's view on their positional needs. Funny how what they needed last year is exactly what they still need now. I like Matt Beleskey, good speed, likes to go into the corners for the puck. In a perfect world, I would want Nick Foligno, but he makes what, over $4 mil? I don't know if the Flyers want to invest that much in him, but I think he would be worth it, being he scored 31 goals last season. They have to address the defense first, however, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Wait a sec, there's a "game plan"??That's freakin' it!!! If they are gonna go and try a game plan I am OUTTA here. I want more of Ed, Bobby and Paul throwing darts at the wall.... The next thing you will be telling me is they are NOT trading away their draft picks for 36 year olds. Pure hokum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 No to Stoll. I mean why bother? The guy makes 3.25mm next season and would be basically a 4th line center. Williams is also not first line material and he plays RW. They need a quality LW to play with Giroux and Voracek and that sadly will have to come via trade or patience and development. Other than that, it's a no brainer that the Flyers need to shed salary and defense. I expect more of the same next season. Maybe slightly better if they can figure out how to win a shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I like Matt Beleskey, good speed, likes to go into the corners for the puck. Is he a UFA this offseason ? He's been really good in the playoffs.But I wonder Is he RJ Umbergering ? Turning a monster playoffs into a nice payday and then coasting to the finish line ? I don't know a whole lot about him other than when I have watched the Duck this post season he's been around the puck, pretty good on the forecheck and finding the the twine when he's had the opportunity. The last player we had with that stone cold killer heart was Lil' Paul McCartney Briere. this guy's bigger, faster and a whole lot younger.Have you seen him in juniors ? how do you know about him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Have you seen him in juniors ? how do you know about him ? Yes, Beleskey is a UFA in June. He's from Windsor and I believe @flyercanuck knows his parents or something. Was a 4th round pick, plays with grit and has some touch - scored 40 in has last year in the OHL so he's not completely useless near the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yes, Beleskey is a UFA in June. He's from Windsor and I believe @flyercanuck knows his parents or something. Was a 4th round pick, plays with grit and has some touch - scored 40 in has last year in the OHL so he's not completely useless near the net. He is playing damn well for the Ducks. He has already set a record for them in a series 5 straight goals in 5 straight games...never been done before. Ducks won't let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 @OccamsRazor He picked the right time to break out as a goal scorer (22 in the regular season). I don't know how he good he is. He plays on very good team and on a line that is clicking. Could he reproduce these numbers outside of that situation? Who knows. He's gonna get a nice payday that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Beleskey is a good player. Obviously he can score. He can also hit and fight (just like his dad) and skate. I'd be interested in him but it might get into a bidding war with the low quality of FAs this year...and I'd prefer the Flyers to stay the heck out of those .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGnAR-uHMQI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Beleskey is a good player. Obviously he can score. He can also hit and fight (just like his dad) and skate. I'd be interested in him but it might get into a bidding war with the low quality of FAs this year...and I'd prefer the Flyers to stay the heck out of those .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGnAR-uHMQI Guy strikes me as a David Clarkson waiting to happen. Have one solid scoring season in a contract year and parlay it into a big deal in a weak UFA market. He scored at a .33 gpg clip this past season, which is up from .13 gpg in his previous five seasons. Clarkson had one year at .375 gpg and is .175 gpg outside of that year. Someone wants to pony up huge bucks for this guy? Let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 @radoran I think that's a fair comparison rad.. as I said I want no part of a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyS Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 "If they shed some salary, with a trade of a defenceman and a buyout of Lecavalier, then Philadelphia could be in the bidding for quality free agents like Justin Williams and Jarret Stoll, who played for the Flyers’ West Coast branch in L.A.," interesting read you say? more like uninformed lol. Unless he meant quality 4th liner up on coke charges Edit: or is the plan to get Umberger, Mcdud and VLC to overdose? So basically he thinks we need to free up cap space that has been eaten up by bad free agent contracts . . . so we can take on more bad free agent contracts? Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0e Th0rnton Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Guy strikes me as a David Clarkson waiting to happen. Have one solid scoring season in a contract year and parlay it into a big deal in a weak UFA market. He scored at a .33 gpg clip this past season, which is up from .13 gpg in his previous five seasons. Clarkson had one year at .375 gpg and is .175 gpg outside of that year. Someone wants to pony up huge bucks for this guy? Let them.Beleskey has a niche skillset. He can skate, forecheck and go to the net. A poor man's Milan Lucic. Any play in which the puck gets to his stick in which he is not releasing it or cycling it right away is destined to die because he sucks with the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Beleskey has a niche skillset. He can skate, forecheck and go to the net. A poor man's Milan Lucic. Any play in which the puck gets to his stick in which he is not releasing it or cycling it right away is destined to die because he sucks with the puck. Yeah - not exactly a guy I'm going to be throwing $4-5M at in free agency. "Scored 20 once" doesn't speak to me as a consistent 20/50 guy. I'm not saying Beleskey "sucks" - just that he's not worth backing a Brinks truck up for. I just have a feeling some idiot's going to be stuck with a $5M "did it once" player - for five or six years. Another blessing to count in the "Homer's not here" department. #Ihope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I just have a feeling some idiot's going to be stuck with a $5M "did it once" player - for five or six years. That sounds real Leafy....or Flyery in the Homer years........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah - not exactly a guy I'm going to be throwing $4-5M at in free agency. "Scored 20 once" doesn't speak to me as a consistent 20/50 guy. I'm not saying Beleskey "sucks" - just that he's not worth backing a Brinks truck up for. I just have a feeling some idiot's going to be stuck with a $5M "did it once" player - for five or six years. Another blessing to count in the "Homer's not here" department. #Ihope I hope somebody does. I hope it isn't Hextall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The big thing with Belesky...had a GREAT opportunity to stick with the DUcks #1 line of Perry and Getzlaf....he got demoted and eventually press boxed for lack of effort...that's all I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 That's freakin' it!!! If they are gonna go and try a game plan I am OUTTA here. I want more of Ed, Bobby and Paul throwing darts at the wall....The next thing you will be telling me is they are NOT trading away their draft picks for 36 year olds. Pure hokum! God I hope those three are better at darts than they are at cap maanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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