hf101 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 According to reports, Hextall has begun contract extension talks with Del Zotto's Agent. Last season Del Zotto resurrected his career with the Flyers tying a career high in goals with 10 and recording 32 points in 64 games well worth his 1 year $1.3M contract. Although the Flyers already have 7 d-men under contract next season where do you see Del Zotto fitting in, and what kind of a new contract should we see signed by the D-man for the Flyers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I see him as a second pair guy next season with the current roster. I also have no idea what's going on with the blueline at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky13 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I'm kind of salivating thinking about what Del Zotto might be able to achieve with a real coach, a defined system, and absent the threat of being scratched for weeks based on a career goon's gut feel. Get him signed to a nice 2-year bridge deal, Hexy...then get to work clearing up the logjam at D by unloading some deadwood, and Ill be a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Really hope it isn't a long-term deal, like the reports have said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Two years would be OK, no more than four years for the good of each party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 According to reports, Hextall has begun contract extension talks with Del Zotto's Agent. Last season Del Zotto resurrected his career with the Flyers tying a career high in goals with 10 and recording 32 points in 64 games well worth his 1 year $1.3M contract. Although the Flyers already have 7 d-men under contract next season where do you see Del Zotto fitting in, and what kind of a new contract should we see signed by the D-man for the Flyers? I hope maybe a 3 year deal...4 tops. One year is not a lot to hitch your horse to for a long time. Regression happens ask Mcdud. I wish they would go ahead and just trade a Dman to make room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 One of one defencemen on the Flyers who earned his paycheck. He still has to learn when to go and when not to, but it would be a lot less painful with some decent partners back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 He's an RFA....make him earn it again. 2 year deal max...liked his game last year, but scared to death of regression as soon as he signs a 4 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I'm fine with Del Zotto getting a long term deal. He was a player that needed some guidance and I'm willing to give Berube and Gord Murphy credit here because they got Del Zotto back on track. One other thing about Del Zotto that impressed me - he added a point shot to his game. If Hextall does decide to move Streit, I'm comfortable with Del Zotto filling his spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 .....and we can forget about Zaitsev this year. Looks like he's staying in Russia and playing for CSKA.Its in Russian.http://allhockey.ru/news/show/223344-Zajcev_sledujuschij_sezon_igraju_v_CSKA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 .....and we can forget about Zaitsev this year. Looks like he's staying in Russia and playing for CSKA.Its in Russian.http://allhockey.ru/news/show/223344-Zajcev_sledujuschij_sezon_igraju_v_CSKAI think they had an idea...which is why they hedged their bets with the other Russian guy...he'll make a nice on ice instructor for Provorov... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Two years would be OK, no more than four years for the good of each party. Yeah, I was thinking 3 years, so I'll go with what you said. I think that's a pretty good call. Anything longer than 4 years is probably not a wise career move for MDZ money-wise and probably a huge risk for Hextall. He's an RFA, right? I don't think MDZ has tremendous negotiating leverage so there's no reason for Hextall to go Homer on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I'm willing to give Berube and Gord Murphy credit here because they got Del Zotto back on track. despite Berube's every effort to hinder or blow it up. Fixed it. I give Berube no credit on this. I think MDZ got back on track despite him. I don't know enough to credit or discredit Murphy (I'm inclined to credit him), but Berube got in the way and almost derailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Yeah, I was thinking 3 years, so I'll go with what you said. I think that's a pretty good call. Anything longer than 4 years is probably not a wise career move for MDZ money-wise and probably a huge risk for Hextall. He's an RFA, right? I don't think MDZ has tremendous negotiating leverage so there's no reason for Hextall to go Homer on this.Yeah something to carry him to UFA status...i'm on my phone so not sure how long that is...2 or 3 years depending on his age...for him to give up years of his UFA status it will cost you more so i'm good with a shorter prove it deal plus by that time Morin, Ghost, Hagg and possibly Alt will be Flyers ready to supplement the attrition of guys leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Fixed it. I give Berube no credit on this. I think MDZ got back on track despite him. I don't know enough to credit or discredit Murphy (I'm inclined to credit him), but Berube got in the way and almost derailed it.I give the credit to MDZ for working harder and improving his game. The Rangers didn't want him and traded him to Nashville. Then Nashville didn't want him and didn't resign him. He went without a team for a while because of his play in the afore mentioned cities. When he got to Philly and was scratched for 9 or 10 (or however many) games, the lightbulb finally turned on. Could it have been coaching? Possible. More likely that he started using his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Well, Del Zotto has given credit to both for helping him turn things around. I get that Berube is a bad coach overall. However, he did do some good things with Del Zotto and Voracek. Those are the only two players he helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I give the credit to MDZ for working harder and improving his game. The Rangers didn't want him and traded him to Nashville. Then Nashville didn't want him and didn't resign him. He went without a team for a while because of his play in the afore mentioned cities. When he got to Philly and was scratched for 9 or 10 (or however many) games, the lightbulb finally turned on. Could it have been coaching? Possible. More likely that he started using his talent. Absolutely. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 He's an RFA....make him earn it again. 2 year deal max...liked his game last year, but scared to death of regression as soon as he signs a 4 year deal.Agree completely ... All this talk of a 4 yr deal is nonsense. He played well but there is no rush to five him a longer term deal here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its two years to UFA for MDZ since it'll be seven years as an NHLer, iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its two years to UFA for MDZ since it'll be seven years as an NHLer, iircSo a 2 year deal should work for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 So a 2 year deal should work for both sides. yup. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Well, Del Zotto has given credit to both for helping him turn things around. I get that Berube is a bad coach overall. However, he did do some good things with Del Zotto and Voracek. Those are the only two players he helped. AlaskaFlyerFan, on 24 May 2015 - 06:57 AM, said:I give the credit to MDZ for working harder and improving his game. The Rangers didn't want him and traded him to Nashville. Then Nashville didn't want him and didn't resign him. He went without a team for a while because of his play in the afore mentioned cities. When he got to Philly and was scratched for 9 or 10 (or however many) games, the lightbulb finally turned on. Could it have been coaching? Possible. More likely that he started using his talent. The quirky thing is that both of these quotes are right. Del Zotto does credit Berube, but it was Del Zotto who helped himself by putting in the work. I've seen a situation like this before where a person who thinks highly of himself(not so rightfully so, but if your talented it's ok to acknowledge your talent as long as you don't look down on others who might not have your gifts/traits.) and he hit a wall when he realize his thinking at the time wasn't going to go very far. He hit the open market with no one in site to pick him up. Reality kicked in, and feeling down and a little shakey. you meet humility at your door.Flyers took a chance on him, a smart move, and when Del Zottto started to play more, Berube saw that potential problem of the past start to creep in, to his credit Berube was smart enough to stop him on his tracks before he went back to his old ways to an extent, but maybe not fully so. Berube saw his gameplay and didn't like it. But that's where I think Berube ends. No communication possibly or detailed/specific direction on what he needs to do.Enter Del Zotto and the coaching staff and I think there is where Del Zotto put in the work himself, and worked on his game away from the puck to better improve his decision making as well as when to join the rush, as I remember Berube commenting on Del Zotto's decision making. All this is speculation, but MY GUTT, EYES and BRAIN, says it's so. What has us excited is that Hakstol can take this type of situation and with his great work ethic and YEARS of Head Coaching experience remedy these types of situations and give his blue print to his players to what they NEED to do when, where, AND how! With the puck, without the puck AND in the process of getting the puck. This is the exciting part and I fully see how/why Hextall wouldn't take no for an answer and got his checklist on the bench coaching his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Its two years to UFA for MDZ since it'll be seven years as an NHLer, iircThen just qualify him now and worry about a bridge deal next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If he's got 2 years until he's FA, why not make him show you what he's capable of? If he earns it, then he gets the longer deal. I have no problem paying guys what they're worth. The Flyers problem is they pay guys on what they hope they're worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If there is even a 1% chance that he can regress and make the contract an albatross, just error on the side of caution and give him a 1 or 2 year deal. The franchises interests must be protected here....with all the influx of young d-men coming up, the last thing we need is a vet to start playing like crap, greatly diminishing his trade value. He would block the way of a young up and comer. Thing is, if Streit was dealt, he could seamlessly take over the #1 power play. I don't think 45-50 pts would out of the question if he got to play with Giroux and Vorachek full time on the top pp. I don't think he was fully shown how proficient his offense can be....still has a ways to go to reaching his peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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