Draft Day, who do the Flyers pick at #7?

[Adamflyers]

I would prefer Meier over Rantanen for sure if for no other reason he is a LW.

I believe Rant can play either side comfortably, which is why he has always seemed more appealing.  Unless I'm mixing him up with someone else, but I'm pretty sure he was the one that was mentioned to be good on both sides.

[AJgoal]

We were talking about what is costs to move up a few days ago. There have been a few articles done that attempt to create a valuation chart. Based on one, #7 + #61 should get you to #3. On another, #7 + #29 would be pretty close.

 

I didn't realize that the Yotes were 18+ Million under the floor. Send them Pronger posthaste.

[J0e Th0rnton]

We were talking about what is costs to move up a few days ago. There have been a few articles done that attempt to create a valuation chart. Based on one, #7 + #61 should get you to #3. On another, #7 + #29 would be pretty close.

 

I didn't realize that the Yotes were 18+ Million under the floor. Send them Pronger posthaste.

The #7 + 29 might do it, but I doubt it.

[mojo1917]

So before this thread got really funny with the Vinny to Arizona business...

well done lads.

 

I was kind of hoping for Matthew Barzal at 7  though everyone and their brother has NJ taking him at 6 ...nearly everyone of our canadian friends who has seen him has been impressed with his skill and compete level, so maybe @J0e Th0rnton and @pilldoc you can direct the watches Rejean's way. ?

 

Also, I have read more than one scouting report about Zac Werenski's potential and was wondering if he's a too much or a reach at 7 ?  Provorov is supposed to be ready in a year, but so are a lot of guys ahead of him in the system, maybe Zac can hone his game in the A and turn into MacDoughnah +  ?  

 

Really I'd be fine with the Russian kid there isn't a thing not to like about him.  but I hope that the Flyers take the bpa and imo I'm not willing to wait the 4 years to see it's Lawson Crouse.

     

[poneill27]

Pavel Zacha

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Voted Crouse. I won't try to generalize, but I think there are numerous people who are only looking at the offensive numbers and pre-determining that Crouse is a bust. As one of the youngest players in this draft, Crouse is just beginning to scratch the surface of his offensive potential. I think this is a kid that's really going to blossom over the next couple of years and that he's going to be worth the wait/weight when he arrives. He's a big skilled forward with a high IQ and can play in all three zones. His size is going to open things up for Giroux and Voracek and he's got the speed and hockey sense to keep up with them.

 

It's a tough spot to be in, especially if Provorov is there, but I really think someone is going to reach for Provorov. I don't think he gets by number 5.

[pilldoc]

 

It's a tough spot to be in, especially if Provorov is there, but I really think someone is going to reach for Provorov. I don't think he gets by number 5.

 

The only team I see who could potential reach for Provorov would be the NJD at #6.  The top 5 players are a lock IMO.  McDavid/Eichel and the whatever order you want Strome/Marner/Hanifin.  Therefore the only team I see are the Devils and realistically I have seen mocks where the Devils have taken either Crouse or Provorov.

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

The only team I see who could potential reach for Provorov would be the NJD at #6.  The top 5 players are a lock IMO.  McDavid/Eichel and the whatever order you want Strome/Marner/Hanifin.  Therefore the only team I see are the Devils and realistically I have seen mocks where the Devils have taken either Crouse or Provorov.

I get what you're saying, at the same time, someone always surprises at the draft every year. I think Provorov is that guy who's going to surprise. I bet he's giving the GMs in Arizona, Toronto and Carolina fits right now as to what they're going to do. Also, it won't surprise me if someone moves up to select him. I really believe the only two set in stone right now are McDavid and Eichel. This is going to be such a good draft.

[pilldoc]

I get what you're saying, at the same time, someone always surprises at the draft every year.

 

Yup..you are absolutely correct...... it is gonna be one heck of a ride!  Game chat is gonna be a riot come Friday evening.

[Lunatic]

Voted Crouse. I won't try to generalize, but I think there are numerous people who are only looking at the offensive numbers and pre-determining that Crouse is a bust. As one of the youngest players in this draft, Crouse is just beginning to scratch the surface of his offensive potential. I think this is a kid that's really going to blossom over the next couple of years and that he's going to be worth the wait/weight when he arrives. He's a big skilled forward with a high IQ and can play in all three zones. His size is going to open things up for Giroux and Voracek and he's got the speed and hockey sense to keep up with them.

 

It's a tough spot to be in, especially if Provorov is there, but I really think someone is going to reach for Provorov. I don't think he gets by number 5.

Crouse scares me. I am confident that he will play in the NHL, but not conficent he will be a top six forward.  I think his time to develop is 4-5 years. At that point Giroux and Voracek won't be Giroux and Voracek that we know.

[pilldoc]

Please accept my apologies for getting off the topic with the Vinny to Arizona being rather humerous.  Please continue that thread in the Off topic - Vinny to Arizona - humor thread.

 

Now back to the draft.

[TimKerrFan12]

Crouse=Ryan Sittler

 

 The Flyers won't take Meier at 7, but someone will be getting a great player.    Nik Ehlers was taken #9 by Winnipeg last year and a lot of teams wish the would have taken him earlier.  He won the Q playoff scoring race and only played 2 rounds.

[murraycraven]

Voted Crouse. I won't try to generalize, but I think there are numerous people who are only looking at the offensive numbers and pre-determining that Crouse is a bust. As one of the youngest players in this draft, Crouse is just beginning to scratch the surface of his offensive potential. I think this is a kid that's really going to blossom over the next couple of years and that he's going to be worth the wait/weight when he arrives. He's a big skilled forward with a high IQ and can play in all three zones. His size is going to open things up for Giroux and Voracek and he's got the speed and hockey sense to keep up with them.

It's a tough spot to be in, especially if Provorov is there, but I really think someone is going to reach for Provorov. I don't think he gets by number 5.

Crouse won't be playing with G or Jake... he is nowhere near ready for the NHL yet. He is 2 years away at least... more like 3 years...

[jammer2]

Toronto's current #1 center is Bozak, followed by Kadri.

 

I think Nylander, who is more than ready judging by the time he spent in the AHL this year, could and probably should be the #1 center on the Leafs. Even at his young age, he is the most skilled option at center, and has world class speed to boot. I still think the Leafs will go with another center this time around, but when you factor in Nylander, the cupboard is not bear by any means. Still, you need two very skilled centers in this league, and the Leafs have been with a nice 1-2 punch for decades. I can't see Marner getting by the Leafs if the Yotes don't snag him first. Toronto will pick Marner or Strome, whoever is left over out of those two.

[jammer2]

 McKeen's final rankings, top 120 prospects...

 

 

1 Connor McDavid C Erie (OHL) 6-1/195 13-Jan-97

2 Jack Eichel C Boston University (HE) 6-2/195 28-Oct-96

3 Noah Hanifin D Boston College (HE) 6-3/205 25-Jan-97

4 Mitchell Marner C London (OHL) 5-11/160 5-May-97

5 Ivan Provorov D Brandon (WHL) 6-0/195 13-Jan-97

6 Pavel Zacha C Sarnia (OHL) 6-3/210 6-Apr-97

7 Dylan Strome C Erie (OHL) 6-3/190 7-May-97

8 Mikko Rantanen RW TPS Turku (Fin) 6-3/210 29-Oct-96

9 Zach Werenski D Michigan (B1G) 6-2/205 19-Jul-97

10 Lawson Crouse LW Kingston (OHL) 6-4/210 23-Jun-97

11 Mathew Barzal C Seattle (WHL) 5-11/175 26-May-97

12 Kyle Connor C Youngstown (USHL) 6-1/185 9-Dec-96

13 Timo Meier RW Halifax (QMJHL) 6-1/210 8-Oct-96

14 Travis Konecny C Ottawa (OHL) 5-10/175 11-Mar-97

15 Nick Merkley RW Kelowna (WHL) 5-11/190 23-May-97

16 Joel Eriksson Ek C Farjestads (Swe) 6-2/180 29-Jan-97

17 Ilya Samsonov G Magnitogorsk (Rus) 6-3/200 22-Feb-97

18 Jakub Zboril D Saint John (QMJHL) 6-1/185 21-Feb-97

19 Colin White C NTDP (USA) 6-0/185 30-Jan-97

20 Noah Juulsen D Everett (WHL) 6-1/175 2-Apr-97

21 Thomas Chabot D Saint John (QMJHL) 6-1/180 30-Jan-97

22 Denis Guryanov RW Lada Togliatti (Rus) 6-2/185 7-Jun-97

23 Evgeni Svechnikov LW Cape Breton (QMJHL) 6-2/200 31-Oct-96

24 Jeremy Roy D Sherbrooke (QMJHL) 6-0/190 14-May-97

25 Jake DeBrusk LW Swift Current (WHL) 5-11/170 17-Oct-96

26 Jack Roslovic C NTDP (USA) 6-0/185 29-Jan-97

27 Brock Boeser RW Waterloo (USHL) 6-0/195 25-Feb-97

28 Jonas Siegenthaler D ZSC Zurich (Sui) 6-2/220 6-May-97

29 Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson C Omaha (USHL) 6-1/195 31-Oct-96

30 Travis Dermott D Erie (OHL) 5-11/195 22-Dec-96

31 Mackenzie Blackwood G Barrie (OHL) 6-4/215 9-Dec-96

32 Paul Bittner LW Portland (WHL) 6-4/210 4-Nov-96

33 Vince Dunn D Niagara (OHL) 6-0/185 29-Oct-96

34 Blake Speers C Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 5-11/180 2-Jan-97

35 Anthony Beauvillier LW Shawinigan (QMJHL) 5-10/175 8-Jun-97

36 Erik Cernak D Kosice (Svk) 6-3/200 28-May-97

37 Jacob Larsson D Frolunda (Swe) 6-2/190 29-Apr-97

38 Dennis Yan LW Shawinigan (QMJHL) 6-1/180 14-Apr-97

39 Gabriel Carlsson D Linkopings (Swe) 6-4/185 2-Jan-97

40 Filip Chlapik C Charlottetown (QMJHL) 6-1/195 3-Jun-97

41 Guillaume Brisebois D Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL) 6-2/170 21-Jul-97

42 Mitchell Stephens C Saginaw (OHL) 5-11/185 5-Feb-97

43 Tom Novak C Waterloo (USHL) 6-0/180 28-Apr-97

44 Daniel Sprong RW Charlottetown (QMJHL) 6-0/190 17-Mar-97

45 Parker Wotherspoon D Tri-City (WHL) 6-0/170 24-Aug-97

46 Oliver Kylington D Farjestads (Swe) 6-0/185 19-May-97

47 Jeremy Bracco RW NTDP (USA) 5-9/175 17-Mar-97

48 Felix Sandstrom G Brynas (Swe) 6-2/190 12-Jan-97

49 Mitchell Vande Sompel D Oshawa (OHL) 5-10/180 11-Feb-97

50 Jansen Harkins C Prince George (WHL) 6-1/180 23-May-97

51 Robin Kovacs RW AIK (Swe) 6-0/170 16-Nov-96

52 Zachary Senyshyn RW Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 6-1/195 30-Mar-97

53 Austin Wagner LW Regina (WHL) 6-1/180 23-Jun-97

54 Brandon Carlo D Tri-City (WHL) 6-5/200 26-Nov-96

55 Jens Looke RW Brynas (Swe) 6-0/180 11-Apr-97

56 Nathan Noel C Saint John (QMJHL) 5-11/175 21-Jun-97

57 Matthew Spencer D Peterborough (OHL) 6-1/200 24-Mar-97

58 David Cotton C Cushing Academy (USHS-MA) 6-2/200 9-Jul-97

59 Kyle Capobianco D Sudbury (OHL) 6-1/180 13-Aug-97

60 Dennis Gilbert D Chicago (USHL) 6-2/200 30-Oct-96

61 Alexander Dergachyov RW SKA St. Petersburg (Rus) 6-4/200 27-Sep-96

62 Ryan Gropp LW Seattle (WHL) 6-2/185 16-Sep-96

63 Filip Ahl LW HV 71 (Swe) 6-3/210 12-Jun-97

64 Christian Fischer RW NTDP (USA) 6-1/215 15-Apr-97

65 Yakov Trenin LW Gatineau (QMJHL) 6-2/195 13-Jan-97

66 Nicolas Meloche D Baie-Comeau (QMJHL) 6-2/200 18-Jul-97

67 Brendan Guhle D Prince Albert (WHL) 6-1/185 29-Jul-97

68 Adam Musil RW Red Deer (WHL) 6-2/200 26-Mar-97

69 Chaz Reddekopp D Victoria (WHL) 6-3/220 1-Jan-97

70 Mikhail Vorobyov C Salavat Ufa (Rus) 6-2/195 5-Jan-97

71 Kirill Kaprizov LW Novokuznetsk (Rus) 5-9/185 26-Apr-97

72 Nick Boka D NTDP (USA) 6-0/195 8-Sep-97

73 David Kase C Chomutov (Cze) 5-11/170 28-Jan-97

74 Erik Foley LW Cedar Rapids (USHL) 5-11/185 30-Jun-97

75 Ryan Pilon D Brandon (WHL) 6-2/210 10-Oct-96

76 Rasmus Andersson D Barrie (OHL) 6-0/210 27-Oct-96

77 Gabriel Gagne RW Victoriaville (QMJHL) 6-5/190 11-Nov-96

78 Nicolas Roy C Chicoutimi (QMJHL) 6-4/200 5-Feb-97

79 Nikita Korostelev RW Sarnia (OHL) 6-1/195 8-Feb-97

80 Graham Knott LW Niagara (OHL) 6-3/195 13-Jan-97

81 Callum Booth G Quebec (QMJHL) 6-3/200 21-May-97

82 Jordan Greenway LW NTDP (USA) 6-5/225 16-Feb-97

83 Michael Spacek C Pardubice (Cze) 5-11/190 9-Apr-97

84 Samuel Montembeault G Blainville-Boisbriand (QMJHL) 6-2/165 30-Oct-96

85 Jeremy Lauzon D Rouyn Noranda (QMJHL) 6-2/195 28-Apr-97

86 Mathieu Joseph RW Saint John (QMJHL) 6-0/165 9-Feb-97

87 Keegan Kolesar RW Seattle (WHL) 6-1/215 8-Apr-97

88 Justin Lemcke D Belleville (OHL) 6-2/200 13-Feb-97

89 Ethan Bear D Seattle (WHL) 5-11/200 26-Jun-97

90 Matej Tomek G Topeka (NAHL) 6-2/180 24-May-97

91 Veeti Vainio D Blues (Fin) 6-2/170 16-Jun-97

92 Sebastian Aho RW Karpat Oulu (Fin) 5-11/175 26-Jul-97

93 Aleksi Saarela C Assat Pori (Fin) 5-10/200 7-Jan-97

94 Kevin Stenlund C HV 71 (Swe) 6-3/205 20-Sep-96

95 Daniel Vladar G Kladno (Cze) 6-5/185 20-Aug-97

96 Troy Terry C NTDP (USA) 5-10/160 10-Sep-97

97 Adam Marsh LW Saint John (QMJHL) 6-0/165 22-Aug-97

98 Glenn Gawdin C Swift Current (WHL) 6-1/190 25-Mar-97

99 Anthony Cirelli C Oshawa (OHL) 5-11/160 15-Jul-97

100 Samuel Dove-McFalls LW Saint John (QMJHL) 6-2/205 10-Apr-97

101 Jeremiah Addison LW Ottawa (OHL) 6-0/185 21-Oct-96

102 Pius Suter C Guelph (OHL) 5-11/165 24-May-96

103 Philippe Myers D Rouyn Noranda (QMJHL) 6-5/195 25-Jan-97

104 Bailey Webster D Saint John (QMJHL) 6-3/210 8-Sep-97

105 Brett McKenzie C North Bay (OHL) 6-2/190 12-Mar-97

106 Brendan Warren LW NTDP (USA) 6-0/190 7-May-97

107 Julius Nattinen C JyP Jyvaskyla (Fin) 6-2/190 14-Jan-97

108 Pavel Karnaukhov LW Calgary (WHL) 6-2/195 15-Mar-97

109 Gustav Bouramman D Sault Ste Marie (OHL) 5-11/185 24-Jan-97

110 Roope Hintz LW Ilves Tampere (Fin) 6-2/185 17-Nov-96

111 Veini Vehvilainen G JyP Jyvaskyla (Fin) 6-0/180 13-Feb-97

112 Jesper Lindgren D MoDo (Swe) 6-0/160 19-May-97

113 Thomas Schemitsch D Owen Sound (OHL) 6-3/205 26-Oct-96

114 Radovan Bondra RW Slovak U18 (Svk) 6-5/220 27-Jan-97

115 Ales Stezka G Liberec (Cze) 6-3/180 6-Jan-97

116 Tyler Soy C Victoria (WHL) 5-11/170 10-Feb-97

117 Adam Gaudette C Cedar Rapids (USHL) 6-1/175 3-Oct-96

118 Simon Bourque D Rimouski (QMJHL) 6-0/185 12-Jan-97

119 Dmytro Timashov LW Quebec (QMJHL) 5-9/190 1-Oct-96

120 A.J. Greer LW Boston University (HE) 6-2/205 14-Dec-96

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Can anyone re-format this mess? 

[pilldoc]

@jammer2

 

Ask and you shall receive!

 

Provorov now ahead of Strome...interesting... Crouse drops to #10.

[jammer2]

@jammer2

 

Ask and you shall receive!

 

Provorov now ahead of Strome...interesting... Crouse drops to #10.

 

 

  Thanks bro...a LOT easier to read now!  Strome falling to the Flyers seems a tad unrealistic, but stranger things have happened. This final McKeens list is not going according to hoyle....Roy a lot higher than most have him....Brandon Carlo all the way down at #54....WOW....Provorov now in the top 5....his stock seems to be soaring right at the perfect time. The Russian goalie Samsonov @17 seemed like a stretch, but that is where the Jets select....so it makes a bit more sense, tons of prospects on offense and defense, but no real clear cut #1 goalie....so it makes sense I guess.

[MadDevil]

I would be surprised if Provorov makes it to the Flyers at 7. I think he goes somewhere in the 4-6 range.

[ruxpin]

This won't be PC, but my real concern with Provolov is his being Russian.

They seem to relish fulfilling the stereotype that they play like they don't give a ****. All things being equal, you take him if he is there, but that's my concern.

[pilldoc]

@ruxpin

 

Rux, I hear your concerns and for any other player, I would totally agree.   However, someone on here brought up the point that he voluntarily came over to N. America 3-4 years ago just so he could learn and get ready for the NHL.  If he had been in Russia this entire time, I would totally agree with your concerns.  I don't think this sounds like a kid who is willing to jump ship and go back to motherland Russia.  However, I get the fears that everyone may have.

[The Quigster]

Saw apiece about Simon Borque, Rimouski partner of Morin. First I've heard of him,anybody here have an opinion they would like to share? 

[murraycraven]

This won't be PC, but my real concern with Provolov is his being Russian.

They seem to relish fulfilling the stereotype that they play like they don't give a ****. All things being equal, you take him if he is there, but that's my concern.

From everything I have read and heard this is not a concern. If anything it appears this kid is the exact opposite of the prototypical Russian.

[Bertmega]

Yup..you are absolutely correct...... it is gonna be one heck of a ride!  Game chat is gonna be a riot come Friday evening.

 RICK ROLLED!!!! Prepare for Eichel, Eichel, Jesus, Eichel.....

[flyercanuck]

Provorov came over as a 14 year old to learn how to play the North American game so he could play in the NHL. He speaks fluent english. He plays well in all areas of the ice. If we take him, I don't think we'll end up regretting it. He may not even be there when we pick. There are more than a few scouts who think he's the best Dman in the draft. 

 

We're just going to have to wait and see who goes before us. When #7 rolls around, Hextall is still going to have a tough decision between 4 or 5 players...unless one of those 3-5 guys falls to 7.

[murraycraven]

unless one of those 3-5 guys falls to 7.

 

*IF* Strome actually would fall he would be the pick.  Although I dont see him falling honestly...   If Prov is there he is the guy.   After that it becomes a really tough decision and as I said I am not sold on Crouse.   Crouse is going to be a heck of a player but he is a few years away from being in the NHL.  IF Prov goes early that only means a highly projected pick slipped so we are still getting a good player.