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Under 3 minutes left,you are in front of the opposing goal with your goalie pulled...and your stick gets slashed and broken. Penalty? Nope......and then while you are arguing with the ref WHO FREAKIN' WATCHED IT HAPPEN, the opponents score an empty netter. At least they made up the poor call in the previous game. The Flyers play bad enough on their own without the biased reffing. Is this guy related to Tim Donaghy  or something? Seriously,,,,,,WTF......

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Under 3 minutes left,you are in front of the opposing goal with your goalie pulled...and your stick gets slashed and broken. Penalty? Nope......and then while you are arguing with the ref WHO FUKKIN WATCHED IT HAPPEN, the opponents score an empty netter. At least they made up the poor call in the previous game. The Flyers play bad enough on their own without the biased reffing. Is this guy related to Tim Donaghy  or something? Seriously,,,,,,WTF......

It is hard to complain, or excuse the Flyer's play this year due to poor officiating, but my impression has been that the officiating has been dreadful this year.

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Under 3 minutes left,you are in front of the opposing goal with your goalie pulled...and your stick gets slashed and broken. Penalty? Nope......and then while you are arguing with the ref WHO FUKKIN WATCHED IT HAPPEN, the opponents score an empty netter. At least they made up the poor call in the previous game. The Flyers play bad enough on their own without the biased reffing. Is this guy related to Tim Donaghy  or something? Seriously,,,,,,WTF......

 

 

Look, I get the upset about the bad call, but that guy knows his team's goal is empty, he needs to give up on the ref and go get a stick or tackle someone, standing around expecting the ref to change his mind isn't productive.

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Look, I get the upset about the bad call, but that guy knows his team's goal is empty, he needs to give up on the ref and go get a stick or tackle someone, standing around expecting the ref to change his mind isn't productive.

 I really do understand the Flyers are playing lousy but, there is no excuse for the lousy refereeing that is going on across the entire NHL.Just the previous game, Giroux was whistled for slashing....a broken stick which the opposing player never dropped. I have not been playing close attention this season but I am going to use this thread to start a wall of shame for ridiculously bad calls. These guys need to be singled out for their incompetence.

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LMAO. I don't know what else you expect when the NHL itself, uses the expression "manage the game" when instructing referees. Referees should just call the game as they see it, not manage it.

 

I didn't see that particular game or incident, but I have NO doubt you are 100% correct. I have seen the same thing happen to the Leafs many times. Too many refs referee by reputation.

 

And note how careful the announcers will be not to say too much - their jobs are on the line. The only place you will get real opinions is on boards like this one.

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Look, I get the upset about the bad call, but that guy knows his team's goal is empty, he needs to give up on the ref and go get a stick or tackle someone, standing around expecting the ref to change his mind isn't productive.

 

THIS!!! ^^^^^^^^

 

Yup is was a blown call..but in the end things usually balance themselves out.  Somewhere this season the Flyers will benefit from a blown non-call.  It is just made worse due to the fact that it led to an empty net goal which put the game away.

 

Players need to stop whining and just play the game.  Just like in the NFL, I am sick and tired of WR's always complaining and looking for a flag.

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Look, I get the upset about the bad call, but that guy knows his team's goal is empty, he needs to give up on the ref and go get a stick or tackle someone, standing around expecting the ref to change his mind isn't productive.

I understand your comment but will add this...Coots was at the goal crease when his stick was broken. The isles transitioned the puck and were out of the zone in about 2 seconds and they scored the empty net goal form just across the central ice red line. There is no way Coots was going to be a factor in that play with or without a stick. The slash was so blatently obvious that he had every right to complain to the ref who was 10 feet away and watching the play.

Had the puck gone behind the net and the play was in front of Coots, I have no doubt he would have waited to complain. The puck was long gone when he started complaining.

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Somewhere this season the Flyers will benefit from a blown non-call.

 

Well so far this season, the Flyers are compiling quite a few of these  "blown calls". I am sure they will be made up just in time to put the Flyers on a late season run to ruin their draft options.......

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I understand your comment but will add this...Coots was at the goal crease when his stick was broken. The isles transitioned the puck and were out of the zone in about 2 seconds and they scored the empty net goal form just across the central ice red line. There is no way Coots was going to be a factor in that play with or without a stick. The slash was so blatently obvious that he had every right to complain to the ref who was 10 feet away and watching the play.

Had the puck gone behind the net and the play was in front of Coots, I have no doubt he would have waited to complain. The puck was long gone when he started complaining.

 

I don't really care how obvious the play was, he had enough time to realize there wasn't going to be a call and skate over to the ref and complain before the puck left the zone, that's enough time for a player without a stick to skate full speed in the direction the puck did go, he had enough time to drop his broken stick and complain he had enough time to attempt to tackle the guy with the puck.

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I don't really care how obvious the play was, he had enough time to realize there wasn't going to be a call and skate over to the ref and complain before the puck left the zone, that's enough time for a player without a stick to skate full speed in the direction the puck did go, he had enough time to drop his broken stick and complain he had enough time to attempt to tackle the guy with the puck.

We obviously disagree on this. Could he have tried to get back in the play...yes. But the puck was in the net at the opposite end before coots would have made it to the blue line. Tackling someone is not the answer. The guy with the puck was not the closest guy to Coots. The puck was long gone.

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We obviously disagree on this. Could he have tried to get back in the play...yes. But the puck was in the net at the opposite end before coots would have made it to the blue line. Tackling someone is not the answer. The guy with the puck was not the closest guy to Coots. The puck was long gone.

 

>taking everything said as literal

 

No, not literally tackle him, but as Gudas as proven in countless games, it's completely legal to lay someone out with or without the stick in your hand.

 

he could have made it to the blue line before the puck cleared the zone, he broke his stick, looked at his stick and to a ref and then slowly skated over to the ref complaining all before the puck left the zone. We disagree because you're trying to justify someone just giving up on a play to complain(a complaint that does literally nothing). If he immediately skates to the puck or the blue line the moment the guy breaks his stick he is still involved in the play, saying a professional player should do anything other than play the game he is paid to play is the wrong answer.

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>taking everything said as literal

 

No, not literally tackle him, but as Gudas as proven in countless games, it's completely legal to lay someone out with or without the stick in your hand.

 

he could have made it to the blue line before the puck cleared the zone, he broke his stick, looked at his stick and to a ref and then slowly skated over to the ref complaining all before the puck left the zone. We disagree because you're trying to justify someone just giving up on a play to complain(a complaint that does literally nothing). If he immediately skates to the puck or the blue line the moment the guy breaks his stick he is still involved in the play, saying a professional player should do anything other than play the game he is paid to play is the wrong answer.

I'm not trying to justify it at all. I agree with you that he should have tried. I'm saying he was too far out of the play that it wouldn't have made a difference if he tried to get back into the play.

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@NRH

 

when i read your take about this i can't help but read "high and wide"  "he's a floater" and all the other tropes that drive me a little batty.

 

there was literally nothing Couturier could do to affect that play's outcome....nothing.   but now it's in your head that he's a whiny little bitch. 

 

have you ever been surprised by something that's happened to you ?  did it take a second to put together what just happened ?  was it someone doing something douchey to you ?   have you always reacted appropriately ?  

 

In the case of the slash, 14's first instinct was to retrieve his stick, then it looked to me like he wasn't sure if it wasn't broken because he reaches for it then stops, by the time that happened the puck is gone, the play is now in the neutral zone.  what good does "grabbing someone " do ?  other than make you feel better ?  the Flyers still trail 2 to 1  if he grabs someone ,maybe now the ref's arm does go up... in the "grand scheme" that play didn't alter the meaningful outcome of the game .  

 

it  was a shitty non call.  

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Well so far this season, the Flyers are compiling quite a few of these  "blown calls". I am sure they will be made up just in time to put the Flyers on a late season run to ruin their draft options.......

 

It's every game for every team. In all of the games I've watched, I've seen both clubs get away with murder out there. Hooking, holding, tripping, all in plain sight. Hell, Korpikoski elbowed the Caps puck carrier right in the head, right in front of the ref... No call.

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It's every game for every team. In all of the games I've watched, I've seen both clubs get away with murder out there. Hooking, holding, tripping, all in plain sight. Hell, Korpikoski elbowed the Caps puck carrier right in the head, right in front of the ref... No call.

Ultimately, I would love to see better refereeing across the entire NHL. With the retirements of some of the decent refs from last year, idiots like Ghisain Hebert make a mockery of the profession with the bias against non-Canadian teams. There are just some guys that do not belong on the ice. The bottom line is that bad refs are not held accountable for poor performance and they should be........

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No, that's wrong on all accounts, You can block a puck you only see for a split second going 100MPH but you can't react to your stick breaking? That's the worst apologist reasoning I've ever seen.

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