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Game #25 - Flyers at Senators - Dec 1 2015 - 7:30 ET


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Meltzer's writeup: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-Meltzer/Flyers-Gameday-12115--OTT/45/72907

 

Key team stat comparisons (NHL overall ranking)
 
Non-shootout goals per game: Flyers 1.83 (30th), Senators 3.17 (5th)
Non-shootout goals against per game: Flyers 2.67 (T-18th), Senators 2.83 (22nd)
5-on-5 Goals For/Against Ratio: Flyers 27/35, Senators 48/39
Power play efficiency: Flyers 16.4% (T-24th), Senators 21.4% (6th)
Penalty killing efficiency: Flyers 80.7% (15th), Senators 78.8% (19th)
Shots per game: Flyers 30.5 (9th), Senators 28.7 (22nd)
Shots against per game: Flyers 32.8 (29th), Senators 34.1 (30th)
Faceoff percentage: Flyers 50.4% (T-12th), Senators 50.9% (8th)
 
 
Projected lineups (subject to change, will be updated)
 
Flyers
 
12 Michael Raffl - 28 Claude Giroux - 10 Brayden Schenn
24 Matt Read - 14 Sean Couturier - 17 Wayne Simmonds
76 Chris VandeVelde - 78 Pierre-Edouard Bellemare - 93 Jakub Voracek
21 Scott Laughton - 52 Nick Cousins - 36 Colin McDonald
 
15 Michael Del Zotto - 3 Radko Gudas
55 Nick Schultz or 82 Evgeny Medvedev - 22 Luke Schenn 
82 Evgeny Medvedev or 23 Brandon Manning - 53 Shayne Gostisbehere
 
35 Steve Mason
[30 Michal Neuvirth]
 
Scratches: One of Nick Schultz (upper body) or Brandon Manning (healthy), Vincent Lecavalier (healthy), R.J. Umberger (foot), Mark Streit (LTIR, displaced pubic plate), Ryan White (IR, shoulder), Sam Gagner (lacerations near left eye). 
 
Senators
 
68 Mike Hoffman - 7 Kyle Turris - 6 Bobby Ryan
27 Curtis Lazar - 93 Mika Zibanejad - 61 Mark Stone
9 Milan Michalek - 44 Jean-Gabriel Pageau - 90 Alex Chiasson
10 Shane Prince - 15 Zack Smith - 25 Chris Neil
 
3 Marc Methot - 65 Erik Karlsson
2 Jared Cowen - 5 Cody Ceci
74 Mark Borowiecki - 45 Chris Wideman
 
41 Craig Anderson
[32 Chris Driedger]
 
Scratches: Colin Greening (healthy), Michael Kostka (healthy), Patrick Wiercioch (day-to-day, upper body), Andrew Hammond (IR, head), Chris Phillips (IR, back).
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I really wish he'd swap McDonald and Voracek.

 

I wonder if Schultz got pulled by the spotter. JJ/Bundy said that he was sitting on the bench after the hit for a few minutes before going down the tunnel.

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I really wish he'd swap McDonald and Voracek.

 

Completely agree. Bellemare and VV are 4th line scrubs that are great at the forecheck but have no finish. They're finished products at this point.

 

Laughton and Cousins are both green, but at least have an offensive pedigree. Playing with a guy like Voracek might kickstart their development.

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Completely agree. Bellemare and VV are 4th line scrubs that are great at the forecheck but have no finish. They're finished products at this point.

 

Laughton and Cousins are both green, but at least have an offensive pedigree. Playing with a guy like Voracek might kickstart their development.

Both Bellemare and Vandy are defense first players and getting better every game at the PK. However, I agree that Jake would be better served playing with Laughton and Cousins. I think injuries have juggled the lines a little more than Hakstol would like but he seems to be slowly adapting. A large part of Hakstol's system is defense first, that could be the reason he is currently playing Jake on that particular line, to get him more on the same page with the defensive side of his game.

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I really think it is a legitimate concern. Bert and I posted the same thing about Jake in the "worst contracts in the NHL" board. Right now he is not in the list of those contracts but come 2017 if he has not turned a corner his contract would have to be on the list. I am not jumping ship on Jake yet but I would be lying if I said I wasn't very concerned. For all the praise Hexy gets this contract could be an Homer-esque sized albatross for the Flyers going forward. I guess Hextall signed him on good faith but I still don't get why you had to sign him that past offseason. One stellar year and the Hextall pulls a Homer.

I really hope he turns it around and finds his game. If not this could cripple the club for years to come.

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I really think it is a legitimate concern. Bert and I posted the same thing about Jake in the "worst contracts in the NHL" board. Right now he is not in the list of those contracts but come 2017 if he has not turned a corner his contract would have to be on the list. I am not jumping ship on Jake yet but I would be lying if I said I wasn't very concerned. For all the praise Hexy gets this contract could be an Homer-esque sized albatross for the Flyers going forward. I guess Hextall signed him on good faith but I still don't get why you had to sign him that past offseason. One stellar year and the Hextall pulls a Homer.

I really hope he turns it around and finds his game. If not this could cripple the club for years to come.

 

That's a fair concern... but Jake is 26. It's more likely that this year is an anomaly than the opposite. 

 

And if there was ever a time to have an off-year, this would be it :) Save the awesomeness for later!

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That's a fair concern... but Jake is 26. It's more likely that this year is an anomaly than the opposite. 

 

And if there was ever a time to have an off-year, this would be it :) Save the awesomeness for later!

 

well, I appreciate your positive view on the situation :P

 

even if he returns to the 60 point awesomeness that it warrants the contract he was given...  nervously hoping he can regain the 80 point season again.

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That's a fair concern... but Jake is 26. It's more likely that this year is an anomaly than the opposite. 

 

I am looking at a few other 8mm+ players and I fail to find their off years. Maybe Jake figures since he is still on his old contract he can play like a typical Flyer that makes similar money. So yes, next year is when the big expectations come.....I hope. <---- I kid, nervously, I kid...

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But we are still running them out of town at the end of the season right?

 

Fire Haskol, Hextall, Holmgren and let the league buy the team away from Ed Snider?

 

Trade all the players that weren't producing 20 games in because it's totally been long enough to shame the team and burn it to the ground and start over?

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But we are still running them out of town at the end of the season right?

Fire Haskol, Hextall, Holmgren and let the league buy the team away from Ed Snider?

Trade all the players that weren't producing 20 games in because it's totally been long enough to shame the team and burn it to the ground and start over?

Yes. Is this your first day?

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Oh, I still think they needs to make moves in what could be an important offseason.

VLC and Umburglar should be moved on from - whether buyout or whatever.

And there are big questions with the schenns and on the blue line (Streit's health, Schultz's role, keeping Medvedev?)

They need to find a complimentary top line LW and Jake needs to be the 80-point player they hope he is, but he's likely not going anywhere.

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But we are still running them out of town at the end of the season right?

Fire Haskol, Hextall, Holmgren and let the league buy the team away from Ed Snider?

Trade all the players that weren't producing 20 games in because it's totally been long enough to shame the team and burn it to the ground and start over?

No, just the players that haven't produced 5 years into their career and don't look like they have the ability to get better.

You can't blame people for calling it how they see it in the moment. If the team went 0-22 and you were the only one who thought they could turn it around, and they go 60-0 to finish the season, you're no smarter than the people that said they couldnt do it. People are right to be disappointed when the team looks terrible.

The same goes with individual players. If a player looks bad to someone, he should be called out for being bad. If he turns it around, that person isnt dumb for thinking he was bad. Sean Couturier has had 3 good games in a row. I think that's great but I need to see more before I like him on the team. I need consistancy. I need like a point every other game consistsncy. I need to see him involved in every game. If I see that, I'm singing a different tune next season.

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Nope, just here to make fun of everyone that thinks hockey from 1899 is the exact same as hockey 2015.

 

Those newspapers they stuff into their socks for shinpads are getting harder and harder to find now....and laptops and tablets are too awkward.

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@icehole

 

What you posted is 100% correct from where I stand. No fan in their right mind thought this team was going to win the cup this year, and most of us were on-board with the growing pains that this team was going to endure for a few years, but when the team flat out looks like hammered crap and lays down and dies; we as fans have every right right to be mad. The 2006-07 season was tough to endure, but to me this current team (at times) has looked far worse. Most nights the team looks like this:

 

Then there are others on this board that are very, very, very patient. That is fine, but it is also comes across as apologetic and mildly annoying. 

 

I am also starting to get concerned that players are not playing up to their mega-million dollar contracts. I am not all for the trade and fire everything camp, but a message should be sent to career underachievers. Sucking is one thing, but a complete lack of effort is another, and it should not be tolerated. 

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