SpikeDDS Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 In your opinion, what are the odds of being able to trade away Pavel Datsyuk's $7.5M cap hit (and a high draft pick) to a lower-budget team, similar to how Pronger's contract was dealt to Arizona? I suppose it will take a first rounder, but for the legit chance to nab Stamkos, I would think that is a reasonable price to pay, eh? But is this just wishful thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 It'd be a really tough sell. Pronger was a bit different because he only cost 545k in real dollars, but gave the 'Yotes almost 5 million towards the floor (a 4.5 million dollar difference). An acquiring team would have to pay Datsyuk 5.5 million just for an extra 2.5 million towards the floor. While he's not playing. That's a lot easier to stomach when the guy not playing is only getting a bit over half a million from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 6 hours ago, AJgoal said: It'd be a really tough sell. Pronger was a bit different because he only cost 545k in real dollars, but gave the 'Yotes almost 5 million towards the floor (a 4.5 million dollar difference). An acquiring team would have to pay Datsyuk 5.5 million just for an extra 2.5 million towards the floor. While he's not playing. That's a lot easier to stomach when the guy not playing is only getting a bit over half a million from you. That is exactly my problem. Datsyuk has screwed the Wings hard for next year. At this point I feel nothing but contempt for his not honoring his contract and I am appalled at the thought of him playing in the KHL next season while under contract to the Wings. I am not looking for perspective, that will be five years from now when he is inducted into the Hall of Fame, right now I feel nothing but anger and contempt. He is under contract and instead of honoring it will be playing in another league next year and the Wings are on the hook. Vile rule in place by the league, equally vile that he is not honoring his contract and the Wings top brass appears willing to allow him to play in Russia next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeDDS Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 8 hours ago, AJgoal said: It'd be a really tough sell. Pronger was a bit different because he only cost 545k in real dollars, but gave the 'Yotes almost 5 million towards the floor (a 4.5 million dollar difference). An acquiring team would have to pay Datsyuk 5.5 million just for an extra 2.5 million towards the floor. While he's not playing. That's a lot easier to stomach when the guy not playing is only getting a bit over half a million from you. I don't think they will have to pay Datsyuk ANYTHING. No cash out on this deal. He's breaching contract and will be out of the country. The only thing is that it is a $7.5M cap hit. So if there is a team playing with a minimum salary, they can get a "free" draft pick (for that money, it may be more than one) just for taking on the cap hit that won't push them over the cap. A good deal for the right team that wants to rebuild. And while I don't feel the same bitterness toward Datsyuk that @yave1964 does, I DO agree with him that Datsyuk should NOT be able to play in the KHL for the year of his contract that he is not honoring. The KHL should honor their agreement with the NHL. That's wrong. Even if we couldn't get rid of ALL of the hit, if getting rid of some of it was enough to allow us to nab Stamkos, that would be worth the pick, I think. The question is, is there a team out there we can sell a significant portion of the $7.5M cap hit to. I dunno about that. There just aren't many chances to sign a guy like Stamkos out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, SpikeDDS said: I don't think they will have to pay Datsyuk ANYTHING. No cash out on this deal. He's breaching contract and will be out of the country. The only thing is that it is a $7.5M cap hit. So if there is a team playing with a minimum salary, they can get a "free" draft pick (for that money, it may be more than one) just for taking on the cap hit that won't push them over the cap. A good deal for the right team that wants to rebuild. And while I don't feel the same bitterness toward Datsyuk that @yave1964 does, I DO agree with him that Datsyuk should NOT be able to play in the KHL for the year of his contract that he is not honoring. The KHL should honor their agreement with the NHL. That's wrong. Even if we couldn't get rid of ALL of the hit, if getting rid of some of it was enough to allow us to nab Stamkos, that would be worth the pick, I think. The question is, is there a team out there we can sell a significant portion of the $7.5M cap hit to. I dunno about that. There just aren't many chances to sign a guy like Stamkos out there. If he retires, true, no actual money would be owed. But then he can't be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeDDS Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 3 hours ago, AJgoal said: If he retires, true, no actual money would be owed. But then he can't be traded. "Oh, well, we're letting him play...in the KHL. So he's not retiring!" #sarcasm And you KNOW this is where it will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 What if he was to play in the KHL and then come over next year before the deadline to play for Wings in the playoffs? Seems it could be a win win for both sides. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 22 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: What if he was to play in the KHL and then come over next year before the deadline to play for Wings in the playoffs? Seems it could be a win win for both sides. Just a thought. I could be completely wrong, but wouldn't he have to pass through waivers, so teams don't do anymore of the good ol' Glen Sather/Reijo Routsalainen special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, JR Ewing said: I could be completely wrong, but wouldn't he have to pass through waivers, so teams don't do anymore of the good ol' Glen Sather/Reijo Routsalainen special? I'm not sure. He could like Kovalchuk would have to and maybe it has somethingto do with claiming to retire or not. But one contract was an over 35 and the other not...if that even matters. Can't truly say. I am no expert by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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