hf101 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Starting Center: Replacement: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Ovechkin has thrown some big hits. He's usually got about 30-40 lbs on whoever he's hitting. He's got the same points as Schenn in these playoffs and plays on a team that has more than 1 goal... but he does have 4 more hits. I guess that's where the $10 million a year comes in. Holtby is the Caps MVP IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonginous Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 All the more reason provorov and Morin should be up with the big club next year. Hope the kids work really hard on their game this off season. Be nice to see some size and skill back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 @vonginous Provorov isn't big. Skill and smarts he has in spades though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonginous Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Morin has the size prov has the skill. (Not saying Morin doesn't have any skill, and not saying prov is big) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, vonginous said: All the more reason provorov and Morin should be up with the big club next year. Hope the kids work really hard on their game this off season. Be nice to see some size and skill back there. 7 minutes ago, vonginous said: Morin has the size prov has the skill. (Not saying Morin doesn't have any skill, and not saying prov is big) I'm little confused by this. What do these defenseman have to do with Ovie checking the Flyers centers in the neutral zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonginous Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Nothing on that exact play because neither player is a defenseman. But if you are telling me, someone with the toughness of morin would not make a difference on the ice in general for this team, I don't know what to say. (Another tough power forward with skill would help too) This would look good next year. MDZ prov Morin ghost McD gudas Not saying it a cup team next year but much better then what we have now. With that defence and a better year from jake, I don't think we would be playing the caps this year in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 1 hour ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: I'm little confused by this. What do these defenseman have to do with Ovie checking the Flyers centers in the neutral zone? He has nothing what so ever to fear....he is bigger than EVERYONE on the entire Flyer roster!!!! There is no Chris Pronger back there to make AO or much less anyone on their team pay in the defensive zone or around the crease...or in the neutral zone...or in the offensive zone...or waiting in line for popcorn or in the ticket line or in the parking lot or.... ...well you see what i'm getting at the days of fearing the "broadstreet bullies" ar long gone. Flyers lack size and the physical play they use to have...they need some much needed size. But wheni say that i mean guys who can move too... It's ok to have both. Teams don't give those guys away, you have to draft them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, vonginous said: Nothing on that exact play because neither player is a defenseman. But if you are telling me, someone with the toughness of morin would not make a difference on the ice in general for this team, I don't know what to say. (Another tough power forward with skill would help too) This would look good next year. MDZ prov Morin ghost McD gudas Not saying it a cup team next year but much better then what we have now. With that defence and a better year from jake, I don't think we would be playing the caps this year in the first round. I'm ok with that lineup except Mcdud... ...if anything else by the start of next season I hope he is back in the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonginous Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 If you can get rid of Mcdonald do it. Don't think he would be to bad for a 3rd pair. Just way to much for a 3rd pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 13 hours ago, vonginous said: All the more reason provorov and Morin should be up with the big club next year. Hope the kids work really hard on their game this off season. Be nice to see some size and skill back there. neither of them can hold Ovechkin's jock strap right now. Not for another 3-4 years if we're that lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilsFanDrew Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 12 hours ago, vonginous said: Nothing on that exact play because neither player is a defenseman. But if you are telling me, someone with the toughness of morin would not make a difference on the ice in general for this team, I don't know what to say. (Another tough power forward with skill would help too) This would look good next year. MDZ prov Morin ghost McD gudas Not saying it a cup team next year but much better then what we have now. With that defence and a better year from jake, I don't think we would be playing the caps this year in the first round. Morin is not NHL ready yet. He improved some after a rough start to the year but he needs at least another full season in the AHL. Other than Provorov potentially making the team next year and MDZ getting back healthy I wouldn't expect too many more changes on D to start the year next season. If they need to add a D-man I'd rather see them bring in a vet on a one year deal like they did with Schultz last season than bring up a prospect who is not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 17 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: He has nothing what so ever to fear....he is bigger than EVERYONE on the entire Flyer roster!!!! There is no Chris Pronger back there to make AO or much less anyone on their team pay in the defensive zone or around the crease...or in the neutral zone...or in the offensive zone...or waiting in line for popcorn or in the ticket line or in the parking lot or.... ...well you see what i'm getting at the days of fearing the "broadstreet bullies" ar long gone. Flyers lack size and the physical play they use to have...they need some much needed size. But wheni say that i mean guys who can move too... It's ok to have both. Teams don't give those guys away, you have to draft them. I've been saying this for a while now. The scary thing is that I don't see that changing in the near future. There isn't really anyone in the pipeline that fits the bill. Morin isn't the answer. His play hasn't thrilled me. Even if it did, I don't think he's a heavy, strong guy...just tall. We need bigger forwards that can play more of a power game. The speed and tenacity still needs work also. I was watching the blues/hawks game yesterday. I swear I didn't see one blocked shot all game. Every shot from the point made it on net and there were two guys pounding away at the rebounds. That's because guys are always moving with or without the puck. Nobody just takes a shot in hopes that it will get to the net. They make their own space by always skating. Then they have big guys in front. The flyers are so far away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonginous Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 6 hours ago, PhilsFanDrew said: Morin is not NHL ready yet. He improved some after a rough start to the year but he needs at least another full season in the AHL. Other than Provorov potentially making the team next year and MDZ getting back healthy I wouldn't expect too many more changes on D to start the year next season. If they need to add a D-man I'd rather see them bring in a vet on a one year deal like they did with Schultz last season than bring up a prospect who is not ready. I agree. That is why I said I really hope they work hard this off season. Would love to see a one of the unexpected stand out next season (kind of like Ghost this season) I'm just hoping it's Morin. We need that size. And yes I know he is not going to be a stud and shut down the likes of OV the instant he steps foot on NHL ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 4 hours ago, icehole said: I've been saying this for a while now. The scary thing is that I don't see that changing in the near future. There isn't really anyone in the pipeline that fits the bill. Morin isn't the answer. His play hasn't thrilled me. Even if it did, I don't think he's a heavy, strong guy...just tall. We need bigger forwards that can play more of a power game. The speed and tenacity still needs work also. I was watching the blues/hawks game yesterday. I swear I didn't see one blocked shot all game. Every shot from the point made it on net and there were two guys pounding away at the rebounds. That's because guys are always moving with or without the puck. Nobody just takes a shot in hopes that it will get to the net. They make their own space by always skating. Then they have big guys in front. The flyers are so far away from that. There was 32 blocked shots in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: There was 32 blocked shots in that game. Is that a lot? Just seemed like they were getting everything on goal. Nobody was standing still and they were just blasting from the point. How many shots were on goal compared to the blocked shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 21 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: There was 32 blocked shots in that game. Listen if you come around here using facts to back up your comments you're going to have to find another forum. Consider this your warning!!! Wish someone would of blocked this shot....oh no one was even in position....and still lost the puck battle....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 41 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: Listen if you come around here using facts to back up your comments you're going to have to find another forum. Consider this your warning!!! Wish someone would of blocked this shot....oh no one was even in position....and still lost the puck battle....... I was mouth agape on this goal. How do you leave Ovie that wide open... like ever!? Read has been in my doghouse all season, long and I believe he was the responsible winger on this play. He's been brain dead this season... wonder what's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 10 hours ago, PhilsFanDrew said: Morin is not NHL ready yet. He improved some after a rough start to the year but he needs at least another full season in the AHL. Other than Provorov potentially making the team next year and MDZ getting back healthy I wouldn't expect too many more changes on D to start the year next season. If they need to add a D-man I'd rather see them bring in a vet on a one year deal like they did with Schultz last season than bring up a prospect who is not ready. I get what you're saying but ready or not even Morin would be a huge upgrade over Manning....right now. Dude knows how to rub guys out in front of the net and his long reach and stick check could be huge around he net. But he will be a Black Ace none he less i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bakanekimiwa said: I was mouth agape on this goal. How do you leave Ovie that wide open... like ever!? Read has been in my doghouse all season, long and I believe he was the responsible winger on this play. He's been brain dead this season... wonder what's up. Not sure how they can do this....head up their ass? But you can not leave him wide open like this in his office he is deadly from this spot....and to not account for him is the reason they are behind 0-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilsFanDrew Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 31 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: I get what you're saying but ready or not even Morin would be a huge upgrade over Manning....right now. Dude knows how to rub guys out in front of the net and his long reach and stick check could be huge around he net. But he will be a Black Ace none he less i think. He might be an upgrade in some areas but I think saying he would be a huge upgrade is a bit of an overstatement at this point. I'm of the opinion when you rush players up who aren't ready you risk lowering their ceiling as a player and with the Flyers being a marginal team at this point that is not a risk I'd be willing to take. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 21 hours ago, icehole said: Is that a lot? Just seemed like they were getting everything on goal. Nobody was standing still and they were just blasting from the point. How many shots were on goal compared to the blocked shots? Well, it's a lot more than none. When there is 32 of anything in a game and someone doesn't notice any of them, it's kind of hard to take their opinion of a certain player seriously. Maybe you missed everything Couturier ever does on the ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Putting Morin in the line-up in this series would be the dumbest thing this franchsie has done since signing Bryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 40 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Well, it's a lot more than none. When there is 32 of anything in a game and someone doesn't notice any of them, it's kind of hard to take their opinion of a certain player seriously. Maybe you missed everything Couturier ever does on the ice? Maybe I am. Couturier was the best flyer last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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